Is PSA cool with shipping mags to CA?

[rojocorsa]

I figured this would be the best place to ask...

Say I want to buy a couple of P-mags, is PSA cool with disassembling them and shipping them to CA as "rebuild kits?"







*For those that don't know, it is legal to have 30-round mags in CA so as long as they are taken apart. My plan is to get a couple and modify them myself to be 10 rounders. Better than over paying locally for the same thing.

And since PSA has free shipping going on right now, I'm thinking about ordering some other stuff.


Thanks

Rojo

[g-men10455]

44mag.com does, great customer service plus reasonable shipping.

[rojocorsa]

I have taken a look at them, but the reason I bought up PSA is because I'm planning on ordering a bunch of stuff soon; it would be more convenient, I think, to have mags, handguards, stock, etc on the same order.

[Iraqgunz]

Someone explain this. Since PMAG's came out after the silly CA weapons and magazine ban. How can new magazines from Magpul be "rebuild kits"?

[ChocLab]

http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/DOJ-large-cap-magazines-2005-11-10.pdf

[interfan]

http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/DOJ-large-cap-magazines-2005-11-10.pdf

This link and pdf should be a sticky in the mags for sale section. When I lived in CA, people were afraid to ship mag parts - any parts - to CA. The laws are pretty stupid and thankfully ambiguous

Someone explain this. Since PMAG's came out after the silly CA weapons and magazine ban. How can new magazines from Magpul be "rebuild kits"?

To IG, if you had normal mags in CA (even if not a CA resident) prior to Jan 1, 2000 then you can rebuild them with any parts you want. A perfectly legal exercise with PMags would be this:
1. Disassemble mag owned in CA prior to 01/2000. Assume that only the spring (as it is the only part compatible with PMags) is still OK and the rest of the parts are in need of replacement.
2. Take PMag body, follower, floorplate from your PMag parts kit (i.e. disassembled PMag just bought)
3. Assemble PMag body, follower, floorplate and old spring from the mag you possessed prior to Jan 01, 2000 (while leaving rest of the original mag disassembled and in pieces).
4. Now disassemble the PMag body again, since now you believe that the spring may be in need of replacement and replace spring with PMag spring.
5. Reassemble and you have a legal mag that can be used in a registered receiver or featureless build. You can rebuild each mag owned prior to 01/2000 with any new compatible parts and as long as you don't end up with more assembled mags than you owned prior to the Jan 01, 2000 cutoff date, you're legal.
6. Shake your head in puzzlement over the stupidity of the law and the stupidity of the people that made the law and voted for the idiots who wrote the law. While this tests the limits of the law, it is none the less legal as the law is written. It is ass-backwards in terms of logic, but when you put it in the fruit loop context of CA law, it is perfectly logical.

A few things more to consider:
1. Possession of standard mags is not a crime, only "importation of assembled mags, sales, and manufacturing" or using a standard mag in a bullshit button gun creates an illegal AW (CA AWB). You can't sell your mags to someone, loan them out, or give them away (technically, anyway)
2. The burden of proof is on the state to prove that you didn't own standard cap mags prior to 01/2000 and no documentation is required by the owner of the mags. Most people who get in trouble with this law just talk themselves into jail when questioned; or they come to Vegas and buy mags a the Bass Pro and drive them back to CA without disassembling them first. There was a case publicized locally about the CA DOJ having snitches staking out Bass Pro on the lookout for CA residents buying mags and taking them home, then following them back to LA and arresting them. I guess if someone would be dumb enough to pay $35 for a PMag at BassPro, then I guess you get more than you paid for...
3. Statute of limitations on law is 3 years, so anything acquired more than 1096 (or 1097 if one year was a leap year) days ago is fair game as it cannot be prosecuted for "importation or manufacturing".
4. You can find a bag of mags in the CA desert and it is perfectly legal to keep and use them as "finding" isn't buying, importing, or manufacturing and isn't listed in the law. Pictures of finding said bag of mags may be useful later, especially if you are young or were younger than 18 back in 2000 or the mags you found are TangoDown ARCs and US Palm AK mags that some idiot (like your older brother) may have left out there at specific coordinates.

I guess the moral of this is that if you sell mags to a CA resident, just disassemble them and ship them as "Parts Kits" (email buyer to say you are shipping "Parts" in compliance with CA laws) to avoid any long reach from CA law as you will then have no liability if they assemble them in state. Your buyer may actually be able to do as I described to rebuild existing legally owned mags, so that shouldn't be a problem. Don't hate on the guy in CA that has similar views as you do and is being held hostage by the commie state. The guys on Calguns are the exception to the "norm" for CA gun owners- they will swear up and down how you can both support a liberal nanny state, over-regulation, and anti-gun politicians with an anti-gun agenda and gun rights at the same time. Those libtards claim that Jerry Brown is pro-2A :suicide: