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Has anybody used the Troy drop in handguards? they look pretty good and strong.. i didnt really wanna get free float cause i dont wanna cut off the delta ring and they are quite a bit more expensive.. But the troy ones seem like a good deal. Any other suggestions for drop in? Thanks
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Troy-Ind-Tactical-Free-Float-Carbine-p/troy%20mrf%20di.htm
You can use the DD Omega and not have to cut off the D-ring and they are FF.
exitinyourhead
05-03-08, 01:33
You can use the DD Omega and not have to cut off the D-ring and they are FF.
+1
they are awesome, i love mine.
variablebinary
05-03-08, 02:12
Has anybody used the Troy drop in handguards? they look pretty good and strong.. i didnt really wanna get free float cause i dont wanna cut off the delta ring and they are quite a bit more expensive.. But the troy ones seem like a good deal. Any other suggestions for drop in? Thanks
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Troy-Ind-Tactical-Free-Float-Carbine-p/troy%20mrf%20di.htm
I really like the Troy DI rail. For the price, it is out-freaking-standing.
I think for a drop in FF rail the Omega is definately the best deal out there! Very inexpensive and easy to install.
If a 2 piece non-FF is what you want I think the Troy, MI and Surefire rails are pretty good values too.
-RD62
I have not used the Troy, but I was sad to see that the QD swivels allow full rotation of the sling.
The Troy 7" MRF-DI is a work of art. Like their BUIS, it's very well made and well-thought. For the price, it's difficult to go wrong...
Story of my MRF-DI
I actually got my rail a few weeks ago, but haven't taken any pics of it yet http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsdance.gif
It's a Troy Industries MRF-DI (Modular Rail Forend - Drop In). According to Troy it's a non-free float rail system - they're technically right, but their locking system is so fucking sweet, for all intensive porpoises it is free float.
Backstory: I was originally planning to get a Knights Armament RAS, but it isn't free float. Then I heard about the new Daniel Defense Omega Rail which IS free float. The only things I don't like about the DD OR is it creates a monolithic appearance http://smiliesftw.com/x/greddy.gif, and the price.
At SHOT 2008 I saw the MRF-DI and it blew all the other competition out of the water. It locks to itself unlike the KAC RAS and it doesn't give a monolithic appearance to the upper. The best part: it does all this at half the cost of the other two rails! $157 shipped http://smiliesftw.com/x/eek5.gif
Enough talk, on to the pics!
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i231/hossb7/ar151.jpg
mounted to my CMMG upper
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i231/hossb7/ar152.jpg
i think it wants rail covers http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsdance.gif
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i231/hossb7/ar153.jpg
note the screws that lock this bitch up tight
next up is a Vickers sling, some KAC rail covers and maybe a VFG http://smiliesftw.com/x/Flag.gif
Damn Hoss - nice looking rig. I may be biased because Troy Industries is right down the road from me, (of course so is ARMS and I'm a LaRue user), but seeing and using Troy stuff is believing. My Troy MCS and Troy BUIS are so well made that it defies explanation. It's good chit....I was going to keep my carbine clan and simple, but your pics of the MRF-DI make we want to abandon that thought....
While the Troy is less expensive than the Omega, it's not half. You can get the Omega from Grant for about $240 with rail covers and it is FF which adds to the price. But don't get me wrong I think the Troy DI is definately very nice and a terrific value for it's cost!
-RD62
I wish Troy would have designed the DI to accomodate KAC panels. But it still looks like a great value.
I just have to ask, why do you say it's a free float?
I just installed a FDE Troy DI on my 10.5" LMT upper last week and I am very impressed. The lock up tight and install took me less than five minutes.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r195/hooligan_22/SBR/DSCF2077.jpg
Yes, my camera-fu is weak.
variablebinary
05-05-08, 00:18
I wish Troy would have designed the DI to accomodate KAC panels.
Only downer...
Only downer...
I wonder if it's a home modification possibility... :confused:
I wonder if it's a home modification possibility... :confused:
A few minutes with a steady hand and a small file should do the trick...
I wish Troy would have designed the DI to accomodate KAC panels. But it still looks like a great value.
I borrowed some KAC panels from a friend and they fit on just fine. i know they didnt fit in the notch, but they were snug enough that i wasn't worried at all.
I just have to ask, why do you say it's a free float?
i didnt say they were. what i did say was that because the locking mechanism they use is so good, for all practical purposes they are free float.
i know they didnt fit in the notch, but they were snug enough that i wasn't worried at all.
I need them to lock in. I can't have them moving if I'm pulling the gun into my shoulder, or when I'm pulling a tight patch thru the barrel from the muzzle end.
I have had two sets of these, rock solid lock up, fit in the grooves no problem, add some blue locktite on the screws and it's like they are part of the barrel. This is the best rail system you can buy for the ar15 under 150.00 dollars, YHM dose not even compare to the quality.. I know this is subjective, but compare yourself...
masterteam1976
05-06-08, 13:19
troy looks great I wish I could find when I'll come there in the summer time
I need them to lock in. I can't have them moving if I'm pulling the gun into my shoulder, or when I'm pulling a tight patch thru the barrel from the muzzle end.
i had to use a hammer with a dowel to tap them off. YMMV
troy looks great I wish I could find when I'll come there in the summer time
They're not hard to find - where are you from?
masterteam1976
05-07-08, 03:40
They're not hard to find - where are you from?
here in turkey it is hard to find these things cause the import of these products are forbiden or limited. :(
I have a TROY 13.5 on my Infidel build with the 13.7 bbl and KX-3. The Troy fuctions great on the rifle and even looks great. I think they build a quailty productfor the price. I have a DD 10in on the way for a SBR so I will be conducting my own R&D / comparison testing soon (Any excuse to go to the range Woo Hoo!!!):)
is the weight difference noticable? looking it up online it appears to only be 1 or 2 ounces heavier then the standard carbine handguards
is the weight difference noticable? looking it up online it appears to only be 1 or 2 ounces heavier then the standard carbine handguards
i don't notice the 2oz difference.
Does anyone know if Grant has these?
Does anyone know if Grant has these?
it looks like he has them in black for $149.
check GandR Tactical.com
I ordered a set directly from the factory and received them today. Mine have some changes from the first set of pictures posted.
1) Instead of using hex screws, the screws are now a slot head for a standard flat tip screwdriver.
2) There are cuts in the rails that allow for the KAC rail covers to be installed. I installed one cover to see how well the slots worked and the cover locked into place. I will say the KAC covers are very tight and required a light tap from a rubber hammer to get the cover off.
Overall, I am very impressed with the rails and am glad I made the decision to get them.
I ordered a set directly from the factory and received them today. Mine have some changes from the first set of pictures posted.
1) Instead of using hex screws, the screws are now a slot head for a standard flat tip screwdriver.
2) There are cuts in the rails that allow for the KAC rail covers to be installed. I installed one cover to see how well the slots worked and the cover locked into place. I will say the KAC covers are very tight and required a light tap from a rubber hammer to get the cover off.
Overall, I am very impressed with the rails and am glad I made the decision to get them.
I'm glad to hear they made that change, but it irks me a little bit as I already have one of the older DI rails. :( I want KAC cuts and I don't feel the desire to take a file to my rifle.
I know that TROY product is a good one. If cost is an issue you could always look toward YHM on their Carbine Length two Piece 4 rail drop in. It is a little heavier but still a good product.
Scattergun
06-04-08, 18:42
I wish Troy would have designed the DI to accomodate KAC panels. But it still looks like a great value.
stupid question..but how do they differ? I got a Troy DI last week. any pictures of the cuts?
Here are some pics. They aren't the best, but they show the changes. Hope this helps.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll37/aggietke2000/P6040034.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll37/aggietke2000/P6040042.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll37/aggietke2000/P6040041.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll37/aggietke2000/P6040043.jpg
Scattergun
06-04-08, 19:46
OK, that is great. Mine are like that. Thanks.
Does anyone know if Grant has these?
We have them and include a FREE MAGPUL PMAG with each one! ;)
C4
Detective_D
06-04-08, 21:07
I just got mine from Grant this week...with my extra Pmag....Thanks Grant. I really like these and they fit great. No movement at all.
I just got mine from Grant this week...with my extra Pmag....Thanks Grant. I really like these and they fit great. No movement at all.
You are welcome!
C4
Wish I had know about this earlier and could have added it to my recent order. :(
Greetings,
Based in part on this thread, I too purchased the MRF-DI. I am very pleased with this purchase! It locks up very tight--even without the four screws. I have mounted KAC panel covers on it. Yes they fit very tight, but they won't get loose or fall off.
The whole purchase experience from the factory was outstanding.
Thanks for everyone's input into this--and other threads--with respect to the Troy Industries MRF-DI.:)
Lonestar.45
08-01-08, 16:06
Based almost entirely on this thread, I too picked up a Troy MRF-DI rail from PK Firearms. I put it on the new LMT upper I got from G&R. It is sweet. Locks up tight, it was somewhat tough to get into place but not too bad. It is not going anywhere. I put some Surefire rail covers on it, a Tango Down VFG, and a G2LED in a Vltor offset mount. Outstanding. Thanks to those that put out the info in this thread and got me turned on to this rail.
I just bought, and I love it. I have been using the ff rails for a while, but thought id keep it simple on my current build. They lock up rock solid.
Ok guys... Im gonna dig this one up some. I had a few questions about this HG before I buy one. Just curious how this locks in at the D-Ring. Does the D-Ring just push forward enough it locks at the gas block? Or does the hand-guard actually lock onto the barrel nut??? Looks like a nice piece. This and the Doublestar are what im looking at. Lot of good feedback on the Troy though. Plus the Troy quality!
matthewdanger
12-02-08, 17:48
They lock in just like standard handguards - the delta ring presses them forward into the handguard cap. Additionally, the two rails are then locked together via 4 screws. It is one solid and very simple system.
One the "wife's carbine":
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2858/katy1dq7.jpg
They lock in just like standard handguards - the delta ring presses them forward into the handguard cap. Additionally, the two rails are then locked together via 4 screws. It is one solid and very simple system.
One the "wife's carbine":
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2858/katy1dq7.jpg
I think I follow. Reason I inquired was because of the fact that this guard doesnt employ the taper on the rear of the guard similar to what we see on other DI's or the stock HG. I was trying to figure out how they kept it still back there. Thought maybe the guard might lock onto the barrel nut somehow. Guess ill have to buy one and try it.
I think I follow. Reason I inquired was because of the fact that this guard doesnt employ the taper on the rear of the guard similar to what we see on other DI's or the stock HG. I was trying to figure out how they kept it still back there. Thought maybe the guard might lock onto the barrel nut somehow. Guess ill have to buy one and try it.
Like the other poster stated they install like a normal carbine handguard. Make sure you tighten the screws down good. I had concerns about not buying a free float rail but these are really nice. I plan on buying another set for my work gun.
I just received a Troy DI for my Colt 6920 last week. It was actually a very snug when installing. The 4 screws don't really seem all that necessary, but they went on w/a bit of blue Loctite. Fit/finish are excellent and the Magpul rail covers went on without issue. The TangoDown VFG (formerly installed on a DD 7.0 unit) took a bit of hand-fitting, but 5 minutes was all that took. Very pleased with the unit, especially considering the price! Locks up rock-solid and will certainly more than handle the anticipated use of just a VFG and G2LED.
Again, very happy with the Troy unit (even with minimal range time on it). I'll get one for my other carbine in the near future. Oh, the terrible pic is that the G/F's grandson ("Igor") didn't want to hold it still for me.
John
We have them and include a FREE MAGPUL PMAG with each one! ;)
C4
Still waiting on my free Pmag, when can I expect it?
Still waiting on my free Pmag, when can I expect it?
As soon as I can find some mags. ;)
C4
Any word on when the mid-length DI rails will be available?
hey grant! What free toy are you giving away this time if I pick up one of those Troy DI carbine guards? I am almost ready to move the mouse over to the ADD To CART button...
:D
hey grant! What free toy are you giving away this time if I pick up one of those Troy DI carbine guards? I am almost ready to move the mouse over to the ADD To CART button...
:D
We try and give away a PMAG, but they are hard to come by. So we usually include a Lancer or Brownells mag.
C4
We try and give away a PMAG, but they are hard to come by. So we usually include a Lancer or Brownells mag.
C4
Grant,
Will the Magpul XT panels work on the Troy DI???
Any word on when the mid-length DI rails will be available?
I emailed Troy about this Friday morning and got a reply back on Monday from Amy at Troy which said:
Hello, thank you for your inquiry. We will have a 9" DI available in a few
weeks.
Amy
Customer Service
Troy Industries, Inc.
Hopefully I can score a set for my BCM middie which (I hope) is on the way. :p
Grant,
Will the Magpul XT panels work on the Troy DI???
Yes they will.
C4
Yes they will.
C4
Sounds good. Thank you! Gonna send you an order here shortly on your site.
Side note..... Is there really a huge difference in stability between the CTR and MOE stock???
Sounds good. Thank you! Gonna send you an order here shortly on your site.
Side note..... Is there really a huge difference in stability between the CTR and MOE stock???
Depends on the who made the RE. I personally prefer the MOE over the CTR.
C4
Mr.Goodtimes
12-17-08, 09:55
is there any big advantage of the free float troy rail over the di one? im only using the rail to mount a light grip and attach a sling to. will the free float give me any noticible accuracy advantage?
spamsammich
12-17-08, 14:02
is there any big advantage of the free float troy rail over the di one? im only using the rail to mount a light grip and attach a sling to. will the free float give me any noticible accuracy advantage?
Accuracy advantage? Depends on how well you shoot to begin with. I highly doubt a beginner would ever see a shift in POI just from a FF rail. If they provided no accuracy advantage, marksmen would not even bother with the FF. I am not a good enough shooter to note the difference, but I like the features a FF does offer and I don't mind the added cost.
spamsammich
12-17-08, 14:04
Depends on the who made the RE. I personally prefer the MOE over the CTR.
C4
For the money, I agree with Grant. I have a MOE on an LMT RE that actually locks up tighter than the CTR until you throw the friction lock lever. I'm not the kind of shooter that gets bothered by stock wiggle in the first place.
Previously stated had issue with Troy, but has since been swiftly and effectively handled by Bob in thier tech support team and Samantha, Thanks to both. they are a fine example of the customer care that has made Troy industries a leader in the bussiness. Rest assured Troy stands behind thier products. BTW Love thier battle sights, have them on all three of my AR's.
StormWerkz
10-30-09, 23:44
Grant,
Are you planning on stocking the rifle length handguards?
-Josh
Story of my MRF-DI
I actually got my rail a few weeks ago, but haven't taken any pics of it yet http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsdance.gif
It's a Troy Industries MRF-DI (Modular Rail Forend - Drop In). According to Troy it's a non-free float rail system - they're technically right, but their locking system is so fucking sweet, for all intensive porpoises it is free float.
Backstory: I was originally planning to get a Knights Armament RAS, but it isn't free float. Then I heard about the new Daniel Defense Omega Rail which IS free float. The only things I don't like about the DD OR is it creates a monolithic appearance http://smiliesftw.com/x/greddy.gif, and the price.
At SHOT 2008 I saw the MRF-DI and it blew all the other competition out of the water. It locks to itself unlike the KAC RAS and it doesn't give a monolithic appearance to the upper. The best part: it does all this at half the cost of the other two rails! $157 shipped http://smiliesftw.com/x/eek5.gif
Enough talk, on to the pics!
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i231/hossb7/ar151.jpg
mounted to my CMMG upper
[IMG]http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i231/hossb7/ar152.jpg[IMG]
i think it wants rail covers http://smiliesftw.com/x/hsdance.gif
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i231/hossb7/ar153.jpg[IMG]
note the screws that lock this bitch up tight
next up is a Vickers sling, some KAC rail covers and maybe a VFG [IMG]http://smiliesftw.com/x/Flag.gif
Well, this rifle has come quite a long way.
Here it is in it's current iteration:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i231/hossb7/AR1501.jpg
justin_247
10-31-09, 03:53
Everybody says that these "lock up tight." So you folks are experiencing no movement from the handguards at all?
Everybody says that these "lock up tight." So you folks are experiencing no movement from the handguards at all?
Absolutely none what so ever.
justin_247
10-31-09, 03:56
Absolutely none what so ever.
Awesome. How does the width of these compare to normal handguards or other rails when the KAC or Magpul covers are installed? I know it's wider than the Omega rails.
WANT.
I recently installed a set of these on my M&P15 and I'm very happy with them. They lock up tight and look awesome! I'm kicking myself for not getting the M&P15X which comes with them but oh well.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/spyderdude18/UpgradedMP15.jpg
Grant,
Are you planning on stocking the rifle length handguards?
-Josh
I was not planning on it, but can certainly order you a set.
C4
Awesome. How does the width of these compare to normal handguards or other rails when the KAC or Magpul covers are installed? I know it's wider than the Omega rails.
WANT.
These are the only rails I have run, but with Magpul covers they're not terribly wide, at least I don't get that feeling. I run a VFG with my thumb out, so I'm not really gripping the rail anyway.
Captains1911
10-31-09, 10:42
They absolutely lock up tight, NO play whatsoever. I have used them on a RRA and now on my Colt as well, for the price you can't beat it.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/Captains1911/guns/TroyRail_1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e106/Captains1911/guns/DSC00766.jpg
Luckystiff
10-31-09, 11:04
I have been haning all kinds of crap off of mine for some time now. No movement at all and everything seens to fit the rail, unlike my old ARMS SIR 50.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/LT_AR_3.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/PA070149.JPG
StormWerkz
10-31-09, 14:08
I was not planning on it, but can certainly order you a set.
C4
pm sent
I have been haning all kinds of crap off of mine for some time now. No movement at all and everything seens to fit the rail, unlike my old ARMS SIR 50.
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/LT_AR_3.jpg
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/PA070149.JPG
bad. ass.
justin_247
11-05-09, 12:53
This is a really sweet rail. I've noticed a lot of the Security Forces folks on base have them on their M-4s now. In fact, I have yet to see a set of KAC RAS handguards on a single M-4 on the base.
Being that you can buy the KAC handguards for roughly the same price if you look on Ebay, which would you choose?
The one KAC product I'd really like to see would be a midlength RAS rail. I'd pay retail for that.
Does anyone have a pic of this rail with an Adams Arms kit on it?:)
Grouchy-Hermit
11-06-09, 10:53
I'll try this image upload stuff with the disclaimer that my camera sucks on close stuff and my photography skills suck even more. Here's the Troy DI rail with Adams Arms DI piston kit. The rails have Larue Index Clips (http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=386) instead of traditional rail covers. The rails are very solid and, so far, I am very pleased with them.
Ya, can't see the pics but thanks for trying;)
justin_247
12-01-09, 10:32
Alright, everybody on this forum rocks and raves about both the KAC RAS and the Troy MRF-DI. Here's my question for you all:
Currently on Ebay, the MRF-DI is available for about $100. However, I have seen the KAC RAS on there, as well, with all the rail panels and vertical grip for only $40 more for a grand total of $140.
Given a choice, which would you select?
Quiet-Matt
01-22-10, 19:04
Dynamicarmament.com has the black Troy MRF DI handguards for $115.
-Matt
Quiet-Matt
01-26-10, 09:53
I dropped mine in last night in just a few minutes. They are solid as a rock, everything is in spec and level. Troy has made a revision, and now the have added rotation limiters to the QR swivel sockets. Very pleased with this purchase.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_5kA3JwNkBxc/S2D6Zo4g6TI/AAAAAAAAE0U/UBnJE8P2twA/s720/DSC00639.JPG
oh, boy. i ''search'' for rail's for my A4 clone... and M4 carbine pop's up...
[im a member] .. :)
but this has gotta stop !!! now i gotta buy some troy rails !!
grant still selling rifle length ? with free p-mag ? :)
peabody
I wish Troy would have designed the DI to accomodate KAC panels. But it still looks like a great value.
There's a conspiracy against the superiority of KAC's rail panels.
oh, boy. i ''search'' for rail's for my A4 clone... and M4 carbine pop's up...
[im a member] .. :)
but this has gotta stop !!! now i gotta buy some troy rails !!
grant still selling rifle length ? with free p-mag ? :)
peabody
well shuck's....
klicked on the troy banner up above' and bought a set of these troy rails , that everybody is raving about.
question ?
will this rail lock up tight enough to use it as a scope mount base ? to move scope forward ?
thanks guys.
peabody
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