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ggammell
11-25-13, 13:43
The Firearm Blog has a story about a new ad/teaser from Glock...

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/11/24/glock-teasing-smaller-g42-pistol/

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Glock Teasing New SMALLER G42 Pistol

Glock are allegedly running the above advertisement teasing a new smaller pistol called the G42. This raises two questions. Firstly, what is this new pistol? Secondly, were are the G40 and G41 (Glock model numbers are sequential)?

If I had to make an educated guess, I would say the G42 will either be a slim-framed single stack 9mm pistol or a US-manufactured .380 ACP pistol. Glock’s line of .380 ACP pistols can only be sold to law enforcement in the USA because of the BATFE’s crazy import restrictions. The fact that there might be three new pistols (G40, G41, G42) may indicate a line of pistols, which makes me think a line of .380 ACP pistols may be on their way.

What do you think?

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Sounds like SHOT 2014 is going to be interesting. Does anyone here have solid info on it? Not looking for "I wish they made a..."

WickedWillis
11-25-13, 13:51
For the love of God, is it finally a single stack 9mm? I did hear a rumble that they are launching a single stack line of handguns, including a 5" single stack .45 designed for competition.

okie john
11-25-13, 13:54
A single-stack version of the G19 would be nice. So would a Gen4 G17 that works.

Either one would be a huge step forward at this point.


Okie John

WickedWillis
11-25-13, 14:10
A G17 Gen4 that works? Come on now, we both know that the Gen 4 17 functions just fine.

jstalford
11-25-13, 14:21
.380? Don't care. Single stack 9mm? I'll take it.

munch520
11-25-13, 14:27
Single stack 9mm? I'll take it.

Color me interested...

WickedWillis
11-25-13, 14:35
.380? Don't care. Single stack 9mm? I'll take it.
I believe the model 24 is the .380.

Dos Cylindros
11-25-13, 14:42
.380, if Glock does this they really have gone full retard (which is precisely why I think it will be .380). They need to concentrate on getting the guns they have right now to work, and not brining out new stuff.

SpankMonkey
11-25-13, 14:46
All my Gen 4's work great. Zero issues.

Swag
11-25-13, 14:47
I'm holding out for a Glock semi auto shotgun...Could you imagine the frenzy that would occur?

kdcgrohl
11-25-13, 14:50
I'm not sure why everyone is so quick to assume .380, as Glock already has a line of these that they don't(can't) import. If they were going to be .380, you would think they would just use the current model designations and make the frames here.

WickedWillis
11-25-13, 14:55
.380, if Glock does this they really have gone full retard (which is precisely why I think it will be .380). They need to concentrate on getting the guns they have right now to work, and not brining out new stuff.

Glock already makes a .380 it's the model 25, it's just not available in the U.S from what I understand.

jstalford
11-25-13, 15:04
Aren't the current .380s double stack though?

kdcgrohl
11-25-13, 15:45
Aren't the current .380s double stack though?

Yes, models 25 & 28, blow back operated.

Five_Point_Five_Six
11-25-13, 15:47
If it's a .380 or some new GAP-ish round, I will drive to Smyrna and kick them in the junk.

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brickboy240
11-25-13, 16:00
A "Shield-like" single stack 9mm.....I am very interested.

A 380...forget it.

Oh and maybe one that does not bean us in the forehead with brass and causes us to hound Apex for a solution to this problem? LOL

-brickboy240

Steve S.
11-25-13, 16:56
There has been rumors for years that a single stack 9mm Glock was coming. But over the last 6 months or so, I've noticed the grumblings about it getting stronger, and from better sources.

Graphic for those who missed it.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/26/asapytag.jpg

WickedWillis
11-25-13, 17:00
I think they were waiting for another company to produce a popular (and reliable) single stack to get a feel for the market. With as well as the Shield is doing, and the XDS was doing, it really seems like a no-brainer for Glock. I'm really excited to see what it is.



There has been rumors for years that a single stack 9mm Glock was coming. But over the last 6 months or so, I've noticed the grumblings about it getting stronger, and from better sources.

Graphic for those who missed it.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/26/asapytag.jpg

jandbj
11-25-13, 17:07
They skipped the number 40.

41 is a long slide 45 acp.
42 is a pocket sized single stack .380.

They were shown to select agency heads at the IACP last month.

Trajan
11-25-13, 17:24
They skipped the number 40.

41 is a long slide 45 acp.
42 is a pocket sized single stack .380.

They were shown to select agency heads at the IACP last month.
For the love of God please tell me you're joking. I've heard of the .45 long slide, but a micro .380? Maybe if this was 2007.

mrvip27
11-25-13, 18:52
They skipped the number 40.

41 is a long slide 45 acp.
42 is a pocket sized single stack .380.

They were shown to select agency heads at the IACP last month.

ewwww

Swag
11-25-13, 18:55
Screw the 380. Like the idea of a long slide though.

Swag
11-25-13, 18:57
^ Although a Glock pocket 380 will sell like funnel cakes at the fair to be sure.

nickdrak
11-25-13, 19:28
If it is a .380 prepare for a slew of new "Hitler reacts to" videos :p

86 slo-vo
11-25-13, 19:40
Hoping for a 9mm single stack.

jpmuscle
11-25-13, 19:56
There has been rumors for years that a single stack 9mm Glock was coming. But over the last 6 months or so, I've noticed the grumblings about it getting stronger, and from better sources.

Graphic for those who missed it.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/26/asapytag.jpg


So are they implying that everything else in their lineup doesn't? lololol


As for a micro 380 absolutely epic failure if that is the case.

Jim D
11-25-13, 20:03
They skipped the number 40.

41 is a long slide 45 acp.
42 is a pocket sized single stack .380.

They were shown to select agency heads at the IACP last month.
Quoted for truth.

Stop speculating about a single stack 9mm, there is no hope.

This was confidental to distributors but the cat seems to be well out of the bag now.

SeriousStudent
11-25-13, 20:10
Ah, Glock. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.

I'll bet it's a domestically-produced .380 single-stack. I bet all of us sharpies will say "Meh". And I bet they sell a metric butt-ton of them.

How many Ruger LCP's are there out there? And how easy is it for you to find .380 ammo, even now? A .380 with Glock on the slide will sell to the Guns & Ammo crowd.

Gaston is selling every single gun he can make. He's just plugging this new gun into a niche he wants to fill.

brushy bill
11-25-13, 20:21
I would be interested in a single stack 9mm or 45 (full size rather than 36 or 30S) AFTER I know the bugs are worked out. Gen 4 fiasco taught me that. Zero interest in a .380...will probably sell like others have noted, but not to those with any savvy.

jandbj
11-25-13, 20:49
Quoted for truth.

This was confidental to distributors but the cat seems to be well out of the bag now.

Cat was released on glocktalk... Last month

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1505841&page=3

Post #58
"@PolymerPride

I received an updated e-mail. No offense taken.

"The new models from Glock are: Model 41 which is a PracticalTactical .45. The Model 42 is a single stack .380. We can't orderthem yet -we have to wait for Glock to give us the green light. We shouldorder both with a larger number of the 42's."

http://www.sportsmans-depot.com/products/GLOCK-41-GEN-4-45ACP-5.3-AS-13RD-GLOCK-PG4130103.html

http://www.sportsmans-depot.com/products/GLOCK--GLOCK-UI4250201.html

Dos Cylindros
11-25-13, 20:59
So a long slide .45 and a single stack .380? I knew it, but I'm still surprised. At this rate, I seriously doubt that I will ever return to the Glock fold. It's a shame too, as once they were producing some of the best, most reliable, and most economical defensive handguns in the world.

SteveS
11-25-13, 21:02
What a world. It wasn't that long ago when unless you had a double stack mag the pistol was worthless and unless the AR15 had a heavy carbine barrel and all the accessories that could be attached to an extended rail the AR wouldn't be Tacticool enough. Now single Stack Glocks and pencil barrel light barrel ARs.. Oh my.

jpmuscle
11-25-13, 21:06
At any rate it looks as though SW will continue to get more of my money lol

Shiz
11-25-13, 21:06
A "Shield-like" single stack 9mm.....I am very interested.

A 380...forget it.

yes!

love my Shield, but would buy a single stack G19 sized 9mm in a heartbeat.

Swag
11-25-13, 21:34
The PracTac 45 has my attention. Now if Glock would only make a slimmer frame. That would be very appealing.

polymorpheous
11-26-13, 02:33
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9350/b4fs.jpg

Here's a little clearer view of the Glock ad.

kantstudien
11-26-13, 03:15
It will be a carbine in .380 GAP or other such nonsense.

I can assure you it will be nothing of value like a single stack compact 9mm.

robfromsc
11-26-13, 04:03
Not a 380 fan, but why all the hate? Is it just that 9mm does every that 380 doesn't in a similar sized package?

jh9
11-26-13, 05:23
Not a 380 fan, but why all the hate? Is it just that 9mm does every that 380 doesn't in a similar sized package?

That there might be people that can't tolerate the recoil of a subcompact 9mm is entirely foreign, I suppose. Friend of mine shot exactly one magazine through my Kahr. She then put it on the table and unambiguously said "too much". People with arthritis, carpal tunnel and other medical issues are in the same boat. A delayed blowback .380 has substantially less recoil and generally has a lighter trigger than the average J-frame. (Another friend of mine simply can't pull the trigger on a 642 without using two fingers. So there's a second dead end.)

It's a compromise. Not every issue is solved by "range time / take a class / nut up / blah blah blah".

munch520
11-26-13, 06:50
Because all the hard-ass bad mother****ers here don't need no pussy shit.

That there might be people that can't tolerate the recoil of a subcompact 9mm is entirely foreign, I suppose. Friend of mine shot exactly one magazine through my Kahr. She then put it on the table and unambiguously said "too much". People with arthritis, carpal tunnel and other medical issues are in the same boat. A delayed blowback .380 has substantially less recoil and generally has a lighter trigger than the average J-frame. (Another friend of mine simply can't pull the trigger on a 642 without using two fingers. So there's a second dead end.)

It's a compromise. Not every issue is solved by "range time / take a class / nut up / blah blah blah".

380 is a compromise no matter how you spin it. Better than nothing? Yeah. Would we all rather see a 9mm released first? Damn straight.

walkin' trails
11-26-13, 06:57
My dad had talked to a Glock rep 2-3 years ago at a trade show who said that Glock was working on a smaller, light weight pistol for CCW. My dad understood it to be 9mm. Personally I think them bringing out a 380 would be counter productive, but who knows... they'd have to build it in the US due to import restrictions. A micro 9 might be worth the effort.

wahoo95
11-26-13, 07:03
I believe it will be a 9mm and the 380 rumor is a smokescreen


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb244/a996hawk/SideView_zps30de4720.jpg (http://s210.photobucket.com/user/a996hawk/media/SideView_zps30de4720.jpg.html)

JHC
11-26-13, 07:10
Ah, Glock. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.



Gaston is selling every single gun he can make.

An interesting contrast. ;)

Plus what, about a million back ordered? You wanna be the champ, you gotta beat the champ. Glock .380 will likely sell if it's got a Glock ish trigger and is pocketable.

jandbj
11-26-13, 07:47
Sell the 380 this year.... Then bring out the same thing in 9/40 later. Sell twice as many guns. :)

glocktogo
11-26-13, 09:16
The PracTac 45 has my attention. Now if Glock would only make a slimmer frame. That would be very appealing.

I asked for a .45Acp with the slide length and width of the 34/35, and a slimmed down grip that used a 10 round mag that would easily lock with the slide closed, YEARS ago.

As for a single stack G-26, it's a no brainer. Since I don't think anyone at Glock actually has a brain, I won't be holding my breath.

brickboy240
11-26-13, 10:00
380...meh!

I still see no need for anything in 380. Especially today with all the tiny 9mms out there.

Besides, 380 ammo is often hard to find and more pricey than the 9mm. If you already own 9s, 40s and 45s...why bother with anything in 380.

This is not 1985, when you have "service" sized 9mms and nothing else and you had to go to a PPK for something small.

I was hoping for a Glock answer to the S&W Shield...but I guess not.

-brickboy240

Big A
11-26-13, 10:04
Not a 380 fan, but why all the hate? Is it just that 9mm does every that 380 doesn't in a similar sized package?

That's it for me. I'd much rather have a faster moving heavier bullet than a slower moving lighter one. Also the only .380's I've shot that had been reliable were the Walther PPK and Sig 232. The 3 little ones I've tried ( Diamondback, KelTec and Ruger) were not reliable through one mag of ammo. If it can't feed one full mag of ammo without a hiccup then I have no interest.

While a single stack .380 Glock will sell, Glock is now in a cannoe paddleing after a steamship that sailed long ago. They need to make the single stack 9mm that we've all been asking for. The long slide .45 makes sense and I would like to see a full size version of the G36 as well.

BTL BRN
11-26-13, 10:21
I would definitely purchase a single stack 9mm; a Shield would have been in my possession long ago if not for the thumb safety - something a Glock would most surely be "lacking."

brickboy240
11-26-13, 10:29
I was hoping for a "Shield" type of pistol....but I guess not.

Will NOT be buying anything in 380. Why? I already have many pistols in 9, 40 and 45...do NOT need one more caliber to keep up with. It will be easier to deal with hiding a small 9mm like the Shield than fool with anything in 380....sorry.

if you have to go to a 380 over the tiny 9mms....maybe you need to hit the gym? LOL

-brickboy240

Swag
11-26-13, 11:58
I asked for a .45Acp with the slide length and width of the 34/35, and a slimmed down grip that used a 10 round mag that would easily lock with the slide closed, YEARS ago.

Yes, yes, & yes. One can only hope.

C4IGrant
11-26-13, 13:20
Word on the street is that there are two guns. A .380 pistol and a G34/35 but in 45.



C4

Grip
11-26-13, 13:25
.380? Boo

Krull
11-26-13, 14:08
If they do bring out a small .380 I'll have to trade a gun,lung or something to get one.

I've had a couple of mini .380's and I like them a lot,I'm fine with the caliber the main thing I hated with the two I had was the sights or lack of them.

jpmuscle
11-26-13, 14:42
Why?

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Dos Cylindros
11-26-13, 15:16
After giving this a bit of thought, there is only one reason I'm not totally pissed about the .380. If the package is done right, and is as this as the shield but just a bit shorter it could possibly replace my J frame as my backup ankle gun on duty. The J frame has served me for 15 years in that role, but I have always wanted to replace it with something thinner and quicker to reload (I do carry a reload for my backup). I bought the shield thinking it would be the answer, but I quickly discovered that while thin enough it was too tall for my needs. Perhaps this .380 may just be the answer.

Swag
11-26-13, 15:23
If the advertisement is any real indication then it's going to be about on par with the LCP. Look at the silhouette of the firearm compared to the Zippo.

ETA: 380 ammo sales will go through the roof once the Glock 380 drops (remember when the the LCP dropped?). Might want buy some now before that happens.

CCK
11-26-13, 16:13
This is obviously "the Answer" gun.

Now we need to take our towels with us to find the question.


Chris

huntswithweim
11-26-13, 16:20
Isn’t there enough crappy small .380’s out already? The .380 is substandard at pretty much everything it tries to do. I was hoping the .380 fad was coming to an end.
Come out slim 9 or 40.

scooter22
11-26-13, 16:25
I'll just leave this here:

http://gunmartblog.com/2013/11/26/glock-42-revealed/

brickboy240
11-26-13, 17:06
If you need a 380 instead of a small 9....maybe you need to hit the gym before you start carrying any firearm.

scottryan
11-26-13, 19:02
If it any wider or taller than a Kahr K9/P9 then they missed the mark, which I am already betting they missed. It will probably use plastic mags that are needlessly too wide.

The SW Shield also missed the mark. It is still a full size pistol that has been trimmed down.

I also don’t want gun designed for 9mm/40. It needs to be dedicated 9mm and not any wider.

munch520
11-26-13, 19:05
Good point, you're saying they should have shot for the PM/CM9 size?

Swstock
11-26-13, 19:41
I have my fingers crossed for a reliable g36.

BBossman
11-26-13, 19:56
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/27/egamegy6.jpg

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brushy bill
11-26-13, 20:09
The more I think about a .380 and a 34 sized .45 when they could have done the single stacks everyone seems to be clamoring for the more I think epic fail. But then the .45 LC / .410 revolvers seem to be selling well and I doubt many here would consider one.

scottryan
11-26-13, 20:11
Good point, you're saying they should have shot for the PM/CM9 size?


No, I am saying they need to make a pistol that isn't based on a full size service pistol. I want something K9/P9 size but thin and doesn't have a tall slide/frame.

ucrt
11-26-13, 21:02
.

In the 2013 Glock catalog, the currently produced (but just not sold in the US) .380's are the Model 25 (same size as the 19) & the Model 28 (same size as the 26).

...don't tell anyone but what they are really coming out with is a .22 LR on the Model 19 frame with polymer slide and a 20 round rotary magazine. ;)

.

Shawn.L
11-26-13, 21:10
Prediction:
Single stack 9mm....... no slimmer than the G19/17

jandbj
11-26-13, 21:13
Word on the street is that there are two guns. A .380 pistol and a G34/35 but in 45.



C4

Model 41 http://www.sportsmans-depot.com/products/GLOCK-41-GEN-4-45ACP-5.3-AS-13RD-GLOCK-PG4130103.html

Model 42 http://www.sportsmans-depot.com/products/GLOCK--GLOCK-UI4250201.html

thei3ug
11-26-13, 21:38
They may be trying to prevent cannibalizing sales of the 26, their current subcompact, by introducing a single stack 9mm of similar size. I can think of a few reasons why they might go the less obvious route of producing a pocket 380, but that's the most likely one I can think of.

fourXfour
11-26-13, 22:31
I'm not buying that they "skipped" over the 40 designation. I think the 41 and 42 will be readily available after SHOT. I think the 40 will be the "one more thing" surprise.

I have no idea what the "40" may be. Maybe a carbine. The rep always says they have designed a bunch, just never brought any to market. Maybe with the failure of the last ban, the carbine may be coming!!! I'm thinking something funky chambered in 556.

Steve
11-27-13, 07:38
single stack 380
and long slide 45

Crow Hunter
11-27-13, 09:39
I think both are good idea's from a marketing/sales standpoint.

Remember, most M4Carbine.net member are NOT the general public. The general public far outweighs the sales of M4Carbine.net members even if we all bought 3 of everything.

Most people want a gun that is small enough that they don't have to dress around it.

Heck, if it is smaller/thinner/lighter than a G26, I will take a hard look at it. I have tried very unsuccessfully to ankle carry a G26. It is just too heavy. I can pocket carry a G26, but it looks like I have a brick in my pocket. A smaller/lighter/thinner "G26" that still has the same manual of arms as my normal G19/G26 carry weapon greatly interests me as both a backup weapon and even a primary in a situation that I just can't dress around. Yes, I own a J-Frame but most of my shooting is with a Glock and it is what I am most used to using.

Not so interested in a Practical/Tactical 45 but I can see why it would sell.

Keep in mind that it takes several years of development work to release a new product in most industries. I don't work in the firearms industry but I know in my industry it takes 2-3 years from concept to market. I figure it likely takes a similar amount of time in the firearms industry as well. If they didn't hear the rumor of the Shield or didn't think it would sell, it will take them a couple of years to "catch up".

It could be that the Glock 40 is something else entirely. The Glock 17 was named that because it was Gason's 17th patent. Maybe his 40th patent was for an automatic beer opening machine...

KTR03
11-27-13, 10:39
Glock 40 will be a 22. you'll have a Glock 22 in 40 and a Glock 40 in 22. Anyone wanna bet.

JulyAZ
11-27-13, 10:50
Here it is...http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/28/sa3e5a9u.jpg

WickedWillis
11-27-13, 11:05
Glock 40 will be a 22. you'll have a Glock 22 in 40 and a Glock 40 in 22. Anyone wanna bet.

That made me laugh, but seeing as the 22 is a .40 you might be onto something.

Grip
11-27-13, 11:05
Here it is...http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/28/sa3e5a9u.jpg

Thats original....on this page...

TMS951
11-27-13, 12:30
I wholly expect to be underwhelmed by what ever it is. I also highly doubt it will make me regret buying my PM9, or even be a close substitute for it.

I have also started in on the Walther PPQ journey. I have a 4" 9mm and it is amazing, I have a 5" on order.

At this point I see myself moving away from Glocks, I have just been having having to many issues with my newer ones, and I am sort of over the Gen 2, I like to have a WML.


The Golden age of Glock is behind us, I am however very grateful to have the PPQ come to market.

samuse
11-27-13, 13:05
Prediction:
Single stack 9mm....... no slimmer than the G19/17

Yep. With a derpy short grip with mag extension like the G30. Anything outside of the G19/17 sucks horribly and they just get worse the more they try compete.

WickedWillis
11-27-13, 13:35
Yep. With a derpy short grip with mag extension like the G30. Anything outside of the G19/17 sucks horribly and they just get worse the more they try compete.

I have no issues at all putting together great groups with a G26 or a G27, so I completely disagree with everything outside of the 17/19 sucking.

okie john
11-27-13, 13:45
It's too bad that one of the aftermarket frame makers hasn't built a single-column 9mm frame that would take Kahr mags and a G19 or G17 slide...


Okie John

TMS951
11-27-13, 14:43
It's too bad that one of the aftermarket frame makers hasn't built a single-column 9mm frame that would take Kahr mags and a G19 or G17 slide...


Okie John

Why would you want a gun with a bulky slide and a thin frame? The whole thing needs to be thinner.

I would have less interest in a Glock 26 if it had the same slide and a single stack mag.

Lincoln7
11-27-13, 15:03
I'm not buying that they "skipped" over the 40 designation.
Well they 'skipped' over Glock 1-16 so don't be too surprised ;)

Dos Cylindros
11-27-13, 21:55
The reason the first Glock was the G17 was because it was Glock's 17th patent. Hence the reason for the name. They were making plastic tools and other objects long before they began producing firearms.

SC-Texas
11-27-13, 23:26
Single stack. 9 would be appreciated and purchased

ericridebike
11-28-13, 08:43
If they don't release a single stack 9mm, I think it is a slap in the face to Glock customers. That is the one thing it seems like most Glock customers have been asking for as long as I can remember. If it is a .380, they will sell I'm sure, but it would be nice if Glock actually got with the program and gave customers what they want. No doubt that Glock would sell tons of them. From a business standpoint, I not sure why they haven't done it yet.

Swag
11-28-13, 09:27
It might be a safe bet that a single stack 9 will be along shortly after the 380's release. Seems to me that would be the next logical step.

MAP
11-28-13, 09:34
If they don't release a single stack 9mm, I think it is a slap in the face to Glock customers. That is the one thing it seems like most Glock customers have been asking for as long as I can remember. If it is a .380, they will sell I'm sure, but it would be nice if Glock actually got with the program and gave customers what they want. No doubt that Glock would sell tons of them. From a business standpoint, I not sure why they haven't done it yet.

I think the Glock business model is "we will tell the customers what they want." What started as a very innovative company has turned stagnant. They appear to be very risk adverse.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Mike

El Cid
11-28-13, 12:15
While I'm really hoping for long slides (6") in 10mm and 45ACP (would prefer a factory gun over a LWD/KKM home-built), I expect they are going to try making guns legal for sale in the commie states where 7 to 10 round mags are the max allowed.

I see no use for anything in .380 unless it's pocket sized. Plus, as was mentioned they merely need to produce the 25 and 28 in the U.S. and they can sell those calibers for people who are too ignorant to carry those guns in proper defensive calibers.

Dos Cylindros
11-28-13, 12:31
I think Glock should have the motto "you suck and we hate you" instead of H&K.

GlockWRX
11-28-13, 12:47
They skipped the number 40.

41 is a long slide 45 acp.
42 is a pocket sized single stack .380.

They were shown to select agency heads at the IACP last month.

Is the long slide .45 based on the 30S (yes!) or the G21 (meh)?

demkofour
11-28-13, 15:26
If they don't release a single stack 9mm, I think it is a slap in the face to Glock customers. That is the one thing it seems like most Glock customers have been asking for as long as I can remember. If it is a .380, they will sell I'm sure, but it would be nice if Glock actually got with the program and gave customers what they want. No doubt that Glock would sell tons of them. From a business standpoint, I not sure why they haven't done it yet.

A bit of a repost here, but back in the early 90s when I was assigned to my department FTS as an instructor/armorer, Gaston himself visited our facility (mainly because we were one of GLOCK's largest LE customers.)
At that time, through a translator, Gaston asked what "we" wanted to see next (remember, this was pre G26 as well as development of the 40S&W...) When I personally told him a small single stack 9mm, Gaston nixed that idea and went on about magazine compatibility... And thereafter the 26 and 27 were introduced.
If he was smart, he'd eat those words today...

MountainRaven
11-28-13, 15:55
I think Glock should have the motto "you suck and we hate you" instead of H&K.

H&K may be late to the party, but at least they're making the effort to show up.

So, yes, Glock should probably take the motto, "You suck and we hate you".

BBossman
11-28-13, 17:05
Is the long slide .45 based on the 30S (yes!) or the G21 (meh)?

If its going to be a long slide akin to the 34/35, I'd bet its based on the G21, too bad.

I'm a 1911 guy, after nearly 40 years of shooting and owning them, I'm wedded to the platform. I've owned a few Glocks here and there, 17, 23, 21 and a 36. They came and went on a whim, but the 36 stayed the longest. It eventually got sold off to fund another 1911. I really liked that gun, I could just never figure out where to put my pinky. I've said many times, if Glock ever made a "full size" 36, 4.5" barrel and 8 shots, I'd probably hang up my 1911.

The rumor mill of such a pistol got fired up 7-8 years ago, I remember at least one magazine writer saying it was coming at SHOT that year. I didn't hold my breath then, and won't hold it now.

I won't bitch about what Glock does or doesn't make. I prefer to voice my wish that Colt would build a no frills Light Weight Commander along the lines of the Series 70 Government Model repros.

johannes_paulsen
11-29-13, 09:12
A bit of a repost here, but back in the early 90s when I was assigned to my department FTS as an instructor/armorer, Gaston himself visited our facility (mainly because we were one of GLOCK's largest LE customers.)
At that time, through a translator, Gaston asked what "we" wanted to see next (remember, this was pre G26 as well as development of the 40S&W...) When I personally told him a small single stack 9mm, Gaston nixed that idea and went on about magazine compatibility... And thereafter the 26 and 27 were introduced.
If he was smart, he'd eat those words today...

They didn't seem to worry about magazine compatibility when they released the 36....

ericridebike
11-29-13, 12:00
I think the Glock business model is "we will tell the customers what they want." What started as a very innovative company has turned stagnant. They appear to be very risk adverse.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Mike

No kidding, spot on assessment. I hope it is a single stack 9mm so maybe the used market will get flooded with tons of affordable M&P Shields.

JulyAZ
11-29-13, 12:09
No kidding, spot on assessment. I hope it is a single stack 9mm so maybe the used market will get flooded with tons of affordable M&P Shields.

I see it unlikely that Glock would release a single stack. Glock seems to pride itself on all their mags fitting each model of the same caliber, a single stack would funk that all up. IMO

t1tan
11-29-13, 16:00
I see it unlikely that Glock would release a single stack. Glock seems to pride itself on all their mags fitting each model of the same caliber, a single stack would funk that all up. IMO

Glock 36

mike benedict
12-01-13, 07:09
Word on the street is that there are two guns. A .380 pistol and a G34/35 but in 45.


C4

We must live on the same street

Mike

Psalms144.1
12-01-13, 09:28
As much as I hate to agree that the Glock business model seems to be all about telling the customers what they want, I think that's a VERY fair assessment. As such, I expect the G42 will be a G26 sized .380, and a HUGE flop. Remember, this is the company who's "Huge New Thing" last year was the G30S...

mikebenedict
12-01-13, 20:24
My guess is that you are dead wrong


As much as I hate to agree that the Glock business model seems to be all about telling the customers what they want, I think that's a VERY fair assessment. As such, I expect the G42 will be a G26 sized .380, and a HUGE flop. Remember, this is the company who's "Huge New Thing" last year was the G30S...

RHINOWSO
12-01-13, 20:49
The Glock 40 is already in use by the DEA, it's hardly been skipped over...


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ufT_6Kgy0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DS7ufT_6Kgy0

The Dumb Gun Collector
12-02-13, 00:31
:dance3:

That never gets old. And I am not being sarcastic.

Psalms144.1
12-02-13, 07:02
My guess is that you are dead wrongMike - let's hope so. Glock hasn't failed to disappoint me with their new products in the last several decades, maybe this one will be what the majority of serious pistol carriers want to see - a thin, single stack 9mm...

Crow Hunter
12-02-13, 10:36
Mike - let's hope so. Glock hasn't failed to disappoint me with their new products in the last several decades, maybe this one will be what the majority of serious pistol carriers want to see - a thin, single stack 9mm...

I wouldn't count on it.

The single stack 9mm "rage" only started "recently" in product development timing. The .380 "rage" started first. Remember several years ago when the LCP and some other small .380s first came on the market? Back when you couldn't find .380 on the shelf anywhere and this was before the ammo crises. That is probably what Glock has been working on for the last few years. They would have had to wait until they got a US factory built before they could make small .380s as part of the import points system is related to size. That is why we could always get the PPK/S but not the PPK for the longest time.

I would imagine that they probably are working on a single stack 9mm but it is probably still in development. I bet they didn't start working on it until they heard the rumors of the Shield if not just waiting until they saw whether or not it would even sell, which isn't that long ago in "development time".

Since they were recently burned pretty good on the Gen 4 change/BTF issue I hope they are doing their due diligence and checking everything.

Personally, I would rather they be late to the party with an excellent design than johnny on the spot with a problem gun. (Read XDS or Ruger SR9)

Krull
12-02-13, 12:19
Here's a thought:what if it's a micro .380 with a double stack mag?? I suppose you could take the 26 size mag and lop a bit more off,maybe get close to ten in it and it's still take the larger .380 mags.

A bit outside the box but that may be what we need.

Guinnessman
12-02-13, 14:43
My prediction is a small .380 to cater to the non-M4Carbine.net crowd. Here are some clothes to go with the new .380:

http://www.gastonglockstyle.com/

Agnostic
12-02-13, 23:57
Bummer! A single stack 9mm would have been great, but I wasn't holding my breath. I have no use for a .380acp.

EvilBetty
12-03-13, 00:32
I'm hoping single stack 9mm. It should create competition and drive the Shields back into the sub $350 range... then I'll buy one. :cool:

I know at least 9 people that would line up to buy a Glock single stack pocket 9mm.

seb5
12-03-13, 08:56
If they built a single stack 9mm that worked I would buy 2 and sale my Kahrs that are used for when I don't want to try to conceal the 19.

Mak8080
12-03-13, 12:02
The Glock 40 is already in use by the DEA, it's hardly been skipped over...


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ufT_6Kgy0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DS7ufT_6Kgy0

Classic. Always good for a laugh.:D

Palmguy
12-03-13, 15:43
As much as I hate to agree that the Glock business model seems to be all about telling the customers what they want, I think that's a VERY fair assessment. As such, I expect the G42 will be a G26 sized .380, and a HUGE flop. Remember, this is the company who's "Huge New Thing" last year was the G30S...

A G26 in .380 exists. It's called a G28.

http://img.blogcu.com/uploads/silahim_Glock-28.jpg

WickedWillis
12-03-13, 16:00
A G26 in .380 exists. It's called a G28.

http://img.blogcu.com/uploads/silahim_Glock-28.jpg

Yeah the current .380 rumors make little sense considering what Glock already has available. Maybe these are actually "US Made" Glock .380's so they can sell them here commercially. Honestly though, there is no reason Glock should not be coming out with a single stack 9mm. I'm also looking forward to possibly seeing a Gen 4 Glock 30s, I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

ruchik
12-03-13, 16:10
If S&W or Glock comes out with a single stack, Glock 19-sized 9mm, I'm guessing they'd pretty much dominate the market.

jpmuscle
12-03-13, 16:27
If S&W or Glock comes out with a single stack, Glock 19-sized 9mm, I'm guessing they'd pretty much dominate the market.

I ponder as to whether or not their is a point of diminishing return tho. I mean is g19 grip width honestly to wide for some folks here? Assuming glock sticks with metal lined poly mag design they have now I'd rather see them do double stack 9 with metal mags to cut down the grip width. I have a 9mm shield and for me atleast it doesn't really offer THAT much more than a g19. Idk, my .02.

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ruchik
12-03-13, 16:45
Well, for me it is. I can't speak for many others here, but when I grip a Glock properly, I can't even pull the trigger. Fingers are too short and hand is too small.

Judging by the popularity of the Shield and XDs, I'm guessing that many people would love the concept of a pistol that's just as thin but has a longer sight radius. Could be wrong though.

Palmguy
12-03-13, 17:19
Well, for me it is. I can't speak for many others here, but when I grip a Glock properly, I can't even pull the trigger. Fingers are too short and hand is too small.

Judging by the popularity of the Shield and XDs, I'm guessing that many people would love the concept of a pistol that's just as thin but has a longer sight radius. Could be wrong though.

I would like it, but if they do come out with a single stack 9, I'd be shocked if it had a >3-3.5" barrel. It would more likely be the same dimensionally as a Shield or PPS.

X-Phile336
12-07-13, 21:40
I'm not buying that they "skipped" over the 40 designation. I think the 41 and 42 will be readily available after SHOT. I think the 40 will be the "one more thing" surprise.

I have no idea what the "40" may be. Maybe a carbine. The rep always says they have designed a bunch, just never brought any to market. Maybe with the failure of the last ban, the carbine may be coming!!! I'm thinking something funky chambered in 556.


Forget 556, I'd love for them to finally realize the market potential (in LE alone) for a pistol caliber carbine that feeds off of existing Glock mags.

ChaseN
12-07-13, 22:31
10mm long slide or 9mm single stack is my hope. Anything else is 'meh', save for maybe a carbine.

m1a_scoutguy
12-07-13, 22:49
For what its worth,,I found this on another gun forum ! The guy who posted it sounds like a Gun Shop/Dealer,,:confused:
"The new models from Glock are: Model 41 which is a PracticalTactical .45. The Model 42 is a single stack .380. We can't order them yet -we have to wait for Glock to give us the green light. We should order both with a larger number of the 42's."

ChaseN
12-07-13, 22:52
The .45 is a yawn in my book, but the .380 could be salvageable if it is a truly reliable pocket size gun - I still won't be interested, however. Still leaves the G40 open, and who even knows where this guy's information comes from...

m1a_scoutguy
12-07-13, 23:12
The .45 is a yawn in my book, but the .380 could be salvageable if it is a truly reliable pocket size gun - I still won't be interested, however. Still leaves the G40 open, and who even knows where this guy's information comes from...
Yea,,I hear ya,,,after all its the Errornet,,,everyone is a expert,,,LOL !! He is over on NYF Gun Forum (New York Firearms) We have crappy Laws,,but some smart people none the less,,,,,LOL !!

avengd7x
12-08-13, 11:20
I guess we'll have to see exactly how this thing turns out, but I have no interest in .380 and it would have to bring something pretty special to the table to make me pick it over the shield. and given my experiences with post 2010 glocks I definitely won't be an early adopter

bigbore40
12-08-13, 11:32
Lets hope they dont waste any materials on the worthless 380 that could have been used to manufacture more 9mm ,ect.

Sikiguya
12-08-13, 11:45
Wonder how many Kahr, Shields, PPS or XDS will be on the market if a single stack Glock is the gun...

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t1tan
12-08-13, 11:48
Wonder how many Kahr, Shields, PPS or XDS will be on the market if a single stack Glock is the gun...

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Even if they came out with a slim 9mm, other than actually having sight options, I cannot see any reason to take a Glock over my PPS, far prefer my Walther to my Glocks.

EvilBetty
12-08-13, 12:47
Wonder how many Kahr, Shields, PPS or XDS will be on the market if a single stack Glock is the gun...

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Hopefully lots. A M&P shield below $350 would be a good day :)

FAB45
12-08-13, 12:59
I would love another competitive single stack 9 on the market. Let's hope!

baffle Stack
12-09-13, 22:39
A 380 would make a great suppressor host.

ruchik
12-10-13, 04:43
I don't see how Glock will make a game-changer. Every new iteration has a few changes, but nothing drastically different. The M&P was a game-changer for Smith and Wesson. I honestly think if Glock went BACKWARDS in their newest model, back to how a 2nd generation Glock used to be, they'd be better off.

jpmuscle
12-10-13, 09:05
I don't see how Glock will make a game-changer. Every new iteration has a few changes, but nothing drastically different. The M&P was a game-changer for Smith and Wesson. I honestly think if Glock went BACKWARDS in their newest model, back to how a 2nd generation Glock used to be, they'd be better off.

No finger grooves and change the damn grip angle. Call it the US model, done.

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ericridebike
12-10-13, 09:06
While I'm not sure it will be a game changer per se for Glock, if it is a small single stack 9mm, they will sell like hot cakes. That is something that Glock customers have been asking for for such a long time. There are plenty of people that prefer the Glock platform that "settled" for a Shield, xDs, etc... that will likely switch back to the Glock if they do release a single stack 9mm. I don't think it will be any amazing new breakthrough design or anything. It will probably simply look and function like any other Glock out there(hopefully reliably) but only smaller and with a single stack mag.

WickedWillis
12-10-13, 10:46
Hopefully lots. A M&P shield below $350 would be a good day :)

I purchased mine for $355 at my LGS, but I have also seen them for as high as $600 around here.

KentuckyWindage
12-25-13, 07:55
New info released

http://www.boomershooter.com/forums/uploads/monthly_12_2013/post-1726-0-56584100-1387854919.jpg
http://www.boomershooter.com/forums/uploads/monthly_12_2013/post-1726-0-47194100-1387854952.jpg

PatrioticDisorder
12-25-13, 08:36
.380, if Glock does this they really have gone full retard (which is precisely why I think it will be .380). They need to concentrate on getting the guns they have right now to work, and not brining out new stuff.

Seeing a bullshit .380 coming from Glock with several years of brass to the face issues and no fix disappoints me and makes me happy I switched to M&Ps at the same time. Gaston is obviously aloof and doesn't give a crap about the US civilian market. Who the hell wants an over sized micro .380 from a company who can't get their currently produced guns to run right???

Blades
12-25-13, 08:44
Seeing a bullshit .380 coming from Glock with several years of brass to the face issues and no fix disappoints me and makes me happy I switched to M&Ps at the same time. Gaston is obviously aloof and doesn't give a crap about the US civilian market. Who the hell wants an over sized micro .380 from a company who can't get their currently produced guns to run right???

You know they will sell a lot. Now the three year wait for them to release a 9mm.

scoutchris
12-25-13, 08:47
So disappointing.

philcam
12-25-13, 09:31
Whoa! Exciting! A Glock .380 thats bigger than a Kahr PM9.

If this was a 9mm it would be a winner, but at .380 I hope it flops and goes the way of .45GAP

The Dumb Gun Collector
12-25-13, 10:12
Good for Glock. I am glad to see they are willing to break new ground. They need to release a 9mm version fast!

brushy bill
12-25-13, 10:29
Appears slightly thinner than the Glock 28. Like the lack of finger grooves in the picture Kentucky Windage posted. If nothing else, perhaps this feature will eventually make its way across the lineup.

fourXfour
12-25-13, 10:50
Appears slightly thinner than the Glock 28. Like the lack of finger grooves in the picture Kentucky Windage posted. If nothing else, perhaps this feature will eventually make its way across the lineup.

The lack of finger grooves does look really good!!!

okie john
12-25-13, 11:17
http://www.boomershooter.com/forums/uploads/monthly_12_2013/post-1726-0-47194100-1387854952.jpg

I kinda like this. I don't care for the chambering, but it's a single-stack and that's progress. Now we just have to lobby for the same gun in 9x19.


Okie John

moonshot
12-25-13, 11:29
Don't know if this design is a locked breech or blowback, but I would be cautious of any future generation single stack 9mm built off this frame, as the history of larger caliber guns coming from smaller caliber versions has not been kind.

okie john
12-25-13, 11:36
Don't know if this design is a locked breech or blowback, but I would be cautious of any future generation single stack 9mm built off this frame, as the history of larger caliber guns coming from smaller caliber versions has not been kind.

Agreed. But we can dream.


Okie John

R0CKETMAN
12-25-13, 12:34
What a waste in 9mm Kurz

Psalms144.1
12-25-13, 13:51
Well, shucks and all that. Larger than a PM9, but chambered in .380. Color me disappointed. And, as has been pointed out above, Glock's track record for "up gunning" platforms is spotty at best, so the much desired single-stack 9mm Glock goes back into Glock Carbine land...

And here I was thinking Glock might be giving us all a Christmas present. I'm beginning to wonder how HK got the "you suck and we hate you reputation" but Glock seems to just keep getting passes on products we're not asking for and hit-and-miss QC...

Dmaynor
12-25-13, 14:09
I have the 17/19/20/21/26/29/30/30s. I would love to drop my Shield as a deep EDC but the 26 is just a bit to thick. If the weather favors conceal carry I mostly do the 19. Every so often if I am going to the farm or somewhere that boar or other pests could be ill do a Glock 20.

I love Glocks and am not a hater. I would not buy a Glock 380 for the same reason I don't buy other 380s. I can carry and shoot a 20 just fine which means my hands are to large for most 380s.

A single stack 9 is a different story. If it's a thin 19 or 26 sign me up. In fact I don't know why I am talking about it, I'm running to Glock to make them take my money right now.

A long slide 10/45 would be cool. I'll probably buy one of each and see if I shoot better than with a 20/21 but it's not blowing me away.

However with Sog advertising guns I can't get if rather go with something that doesn't have a year lead time.

ST911
12-25-13, 15:16
For the right or wrong reasons, the gun will be a hit and they'll sell every one they make for a long time.

Glock already has a presence in the compact 9mm market in the US with the G26. They have no share of the pocket / more-compact market where .380 is reigning. Existing and prospective Glock users are having that niche supplied exclusively by the competition, a more urgent hole in the boat for GI than the lack of yet another 9mm.

Krull
12-25-13, 16:20
Okay....now how do I get the money to buy one?? *goes to look if has anything to sell*

brushy bill
12-25-13, 17:22
The lack of finger grooves does look really good!!!

anyone know if the 45 acp will have finger grooves?

SPDGG
12-25-13, 18:43
Not my flavor, but this might be a more "comfortable" Glock for the Mrs. :)

I'll wait till my local range gets one as a rental. If shes likes it & this will actually get her to shoot a centerfire more, I'll pick one up.

Psalms144.1
12-25-13, 19:09
Not my flavor, but this might be a more "comfortable" Glock for the Mrs. :)

I'll wait till my local range gets one as a rental. If shes likes it & this will actually get her to shoot a centerfire more, I'll pick one up.
With all due respect, I don't see how a smaller, lighter pistol is going to be more "comfortable" for anyone. It's not like it's a 22 - the 380 is still a reasonably potent center fire, recoil wise.

Trajan
12-25-13, 19:35
Seeing a bullshit .380 coming from Glock with several years of brass to the face issues and no fix disappoints me and makes me happy I switched to M&Ps at the same time. Gaston is obviously aloof and doesn't give a crap about the US civilian market. Who the hell wants an over sized micro .380 from a company who can't get their currently produced guns to run right???

This making you happy you switched to M&Ps is retarded. You're buying a specific product, not marrying a company.

It is disappointing to see that this is a .380. Maybe this has been in the works since the 07-08ish time frame? Then again, it looks like it is marketed as people who throw an LCP or J-frame in their pocket, as opposed to a holster on the belt (which is already dominated by their G19).

brushy bill
12-25-13, 19:40
Don't know if this design is a locked breech or blowback, but I would be cautious of any future generation single stack 9mm built off this frame, as the history of larger caliber guns coming from smaller caliber versions has not been kind.

Indeed. Cramming a 40 into the 9mm platform was not Glock's finest decision. I would not buy a 9mm crammed into this platform. It would have to be engineered as a 9mm. Regardless, I'll never be a Glock Beta user again.

Swag
12-25-13, 19:46
It looks large enough to be a pocket 9mm. Maybe down the road?

ETA: With the given dimensions a 9mm version seems doable. That would make it one hell of a deep-concealment/BUG.

SeriousStudent
12-25-13, 19:50
For the right or wrong reasons, the gun will be a hit and they'll sell every one they make for a long time.

Glock already has a presence in the compact 9mm market in the US with the G26. They have no share of the pocket / more-compact market where .380 is reigning. Existing and prospective Glock users are having that niche supplied exclusively by the competition, a more urgent hole in the boat for GI than the lack of yet another 9mm.

This. Glock was leaving money on the table.

SPDGG
12-25-13, 19:55
With all due respect, I don't see how a smaller, lighter pistol is going to be more "comfortable" for anyone. It's not like it's a 22 - the 380 is still a reasonably potent center fire, recoil wise.
fwiw:
- I didn't mention anything regarding the caliber, but it comes into play. More to do with the ergonomics that might be more pleasant for the Mrs.'s hands. I have a M&P Shield 9mm & she likes it better than my Glock 19 but after many years still finding something that she wants to shoot, as her choice.

Understand what you are saying, but learned many years ago I can't pick out what I think my wife will like for firearms.
Can always narrow down choices, but need the final nod & to see how she does on paper.

NCPatrolAR
12-25-13, 20:51
I'm happy to see that Glock hasn't moved completely away from non-finger grooved frames. Hopefully that makes its way into the larger frames at some point

Shiz
12-25-13, 20:55
.380............is that even a caliber any more???

;)

Crow Hunter
12-25-13, 21:42
Looks to be slightly bigger than the Ruger LCP.

LCP vs G42 vs S&W Body Guard

Length 5.16 vs 5.94 vs 5.25
Height 3.6 vs 4.13 vs 3.78
Width .82 vs .836 vs 8.42
Bbl 2.75 vs 3.01 vs 2.75

I think this is a good option for Glock.

It will probably do at least as good for Glock as the .380 Bodyguard does for S&W. Considering the number of people I know that own either a LCP/Keltec or Bodyguard in just my tiny circle of gun owning friends, it will probably result in quite a few sales.

Based on its dimensions, it will probably be slightly easier (read less painful) to shoot than either of the other 2 which means people are more apt to purchase it at the outset if directly comparing the 3 in a range rental situation.

I will honestly be looking at it myself as a NPE handgun in the niche between my G26 and my NAA Guardian.

While I would be interested to see a new single stack 9mm, I really don't think they will sell as many of those as they would a LCP style gun to the vast majority of gun toting public.

Kind of goes to the old Col Cooper "People talk .45, shoot 9mm and carry .38." It today's age it is usually the .380 over the .38.

The new mantra should probably be people talk 9mm+P bonded hollowpoint, shoot 115gr target loads and carry .380.:)

Mak8080
12-25-13, 23:28
I'm sure they'll sell a bunch. I think they missed the boat with a single stack 9mm. Here's to 4 more years until it comes out.

Guinnessman
12-26-13, 08:25
This. Glock was leaving money on the table.

Maybe Glock can take the profits from the new .380 and reproduce a 2006 era Glock 19. :D

HMsailor
12-26-13, 08:29
A single-stack version of the G19 would be nice. So would a Gen4 G17 that works.

Either one would be a huge step forward at this point.


Okie John

Their not coming up with a single stack 9mm soon as per glock cs. They can barely keep up with the demand of the 17. Why would they ruin their thru the roof sales for a single stack with the same dimensions of a double stack. The double stack 17 is already a slim frame. The 41 would be a long framed 21 while the 42 will be a 380 pocket frame.

Mike169
12-26-13, 08:33
Whoa! Exciting! A Glock .380 thats bigger than a Kahr PM9.

If this was a 9mm it would be a winner, but at .380 I hope it flops and goes the way of .45GAP

I won't share your sentiment about the 45gap, but I agree the dimensions being larger than a pm9/cm9 make this gun a complete failure.

But let's not forget folks, we've not seen the glock 41 yet.

EvilBetty
12-26-13, 09:01
This making you happy you switched to M&Ps is retarded. You're buying a specific product, not marrying a company.

It is disappointing to see that this is a .380. Maybe this has been in the works since the 07-08ish time frame? Then again, it looks like it is marketed as people who throw an LCP or J-frame in their pocket, as opposed to a holster on the belt (which is already dominated by their G19).

Not sure of the quoted OP's reasoning, but there reasons to adopt a platform you are comfortable with. Trigger and grip to be just two. If you own and shoot full size guns of a similar design, why switch it up and give yourself more to have to adjust to between guns.

I understand why a Glock guy would want this 380 or better yet a SS 9mm. I also understand why a former Glock guy would be someone reassured by a disappointing offering from Glock.

EvilBetty
12-26-13, 09:02
Looks to be slightly bigger than the Ruger LCP.

LCP vs G42 vs S&W Body Guard

Length 5.16 vs 5.94 vs 5.25
Height 3.6 vs 4.13 vs 3.78
Width .82 vs .836 vs 8.42
Bbl 2.75 vs 3.01 vs 2.75

I think this is a good option for Glock.

It will probably do at least as good for Glock as the .380 Bodyguard does for S&W. Considering the number of people I know that own either a LCP/Keltec or Bodyguard in just my tiny circle of gun owning friends, it will probably result in quite a few sales.

Based on its dimensions, it will probably be slightly easier (read less painful) to shoot than either of the other 2 which means people are more apt to purchase it at the outset if directly comparing the 3 in a range rental situation.

I will honestly be looking at it myself as a NPE handgun in the niche between my G26 and my NAA Guardian.

While I would be interested to see a new single stack 9mm, I really don't think they will sell as many of those as they would a LCP style gun to the vast majority of gun toting public.

Kind of goes to the old Col Cooper "People talk .45, shoot 9mm and carry .38." It today's age it is usually the .380 over the .38.

The new mantra should probably be people talk 9mm+P bonded hollowpoint, shoot 115gr target loads and carry .380.:)



This.

Part of the reason why Ruger released the LC380

Big A
12-26-13, 09:48
Their not coming up with a single stack 9mm soon as per glock cs. They can barely keep up with the demand of the 17. Why would they ruin their thru the roof sales for a single stack with the same dimensions of a double stack. The double stack 17 is already a slim frame. The 41 would be a long framed 21 while the 42 will be a 380 pocket frame.

I'm pretty sure Okie John was saying keep the highth/length of the G19 but reduce the width and make it a single stack mag. Think G36 but in 9mm. That would sell like crazy in states where you are limited to 10 rounds...

Tomahawk_Ghost
12-26-13, 10:06
Fill up your gas tank.


If it's a .380 or some new GAP-ish round, I will drive to Smyrna and kick them in the junk.

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Wolfhound86
12-26-13, 10:34
I've owned 17, 19, 22, 26, and 27. To me the 19 is top dog, just seems like a waste of money to get a Glock in 380 when you could get a 19.

Crow Hunter
12-26-13, 11:12
Is anyone actually looking at the dimensions or are we all focusing on the caliber?

G42 vs G19 vs Shield

Length: 5.94 vs 6.85 vs 6.1
Height: 4.13 vs 5 vs 4.6
Width: .836 vs 1.18 vs .95

The G42, if the dimensions shown above are correct, is significantly smaller than the G19 and noticeably smaller than a Shield.

The G26 is noticeably smaller than the Shield as well and there are times that I find the G26 to be a little too big.

I have fired a LCP on several occasions, while it is small, it is also somewhat painful to shoot and the one I fired had an atrocious trigger.

A slightly larger than LCP but smaller than G26/Shield that doesn't have a thumb safety and a decent trigger pull will probably sell like hotcakes. Even if it doesn't have Glocks brand name on it.

For reference, the base line gun that everyone always compares back to, the J-Frame 642/442 dimensions are:

Length 6.31
Height 4.1
Width 1.19 (cylinder)
Weight .94 lbs

So we have something slightly smaller shorter in length with a longer barrel, similar height, lighter base weight (.8375 lbs for G42), a detachable magazine that is easier to reload quickly, decent Glock Safe Action trigger (I suppose) that has the same manual of arms and probably similar design (and may share components) to one of the highest selling handgun platforms on the market.

Is there anything else on the market like this right now?

Not that I am aware of. There are several that are close, but I don't know of any that have all the bases covered.

That is the key to making money. Sell something that no one else does.

A Shield clone would be just that, a Shield clone. While it might be to Glocks advantage to eventually get into that part of the market and try to undermine S&W market share, I think this is a better first step for them.

Getting something that is smaller than anything they have right now, get it in .380 for the Glockophiles out there that have always wanted a .380 and have a reliable (hopefully) and easy to shoot .380 on the market.

There is a high demand in the shooting public for small .380 handguns. Not everyone wants to carry a G19/P30/M&PFS.

EvilBetty
12-26-13, 11:19
G42 vs G19 vs Shield

Length: 5.94 vs 6.85 vs 6.1
Height: 4.13 vs 5 vs 4.6
Width: .836 vs 1.18 vs .95

A slightly larger than LCP but smaller than G26/Shield that doesn't have a thumb safety and a decent trigger pull will probably sell like hotcakes. Even if it doesn't have Glocks brand name on it.
Is there anything else on the market like this right now?

Ruger LC380? (measuring 6” long by 4.5” tall, and .9in wide)

tb-av
12-26-13, 11:23
That thing looks like it's 1/8", 1/4", 1/2" within the Walther PPS .... of course it's cheaper and everybody and their brother will make a holster for it.

Trajan
12-26-13, 11:26
Not sure of the quoted OP's reasoning, but there reasons to adopt a platform you are comfortable with. Trigger and grip to be just two. If you own and shoot full size guns of a similar design, why switch it up and give yourself more to have to adjust to between guns.

I understand why a Glock guy would want this 380 or better yet a SS 9mm. I also understand why a former Glock guy would be someone reassured by a disappointing offering from Glock.

Disappointed in this product, yes. However this product shouldn't change your perception of existing products.

If I wanted a single stack 9mm, I would buy a shield. It's still a polymer framed striker fired gun. Grip angle is a little bit different (I actually prefer the Glock angle), but that isn't anything a few presentations doesn't fix.

The mags and most parts wouldn't be compatible anyway, so platform loyalty doesn't make sense here either.

I do believe however that a single stack G19 would steal the entire market.

Crow Hunter
12-26-13, 11:35
Ruger LC380? (measuring 6” long by 4.5” tall, and .9in wide)

What is the trigger like?

I have only limited experience with the LCP (my first cousin's gun) and it was terrible. Similar to a staple gun but harder to grip.

The LC380 is also almost 1/2" taller than the supposed G42 and that seems to be the critical factor in concealment for me personally.

ETA:

Assuming the internals are similar to the rest of the Glock series, this gun will have another leg up on the Ruger. There is a Glock Armorer in every 3rd house on any given road. ;)

EzGoingKev
12-26-13, 12:08
While I am disappointed Glock is not releasing this in 9mm right now I -

- Realize that Glock does not only sell pistols in the US and that in the worldwide market the .380 makes more sense.
- Expect Glock will release a single stack 9mm at some point down the road.

Moltke
12-26-13, 12:27
A single stack 9mm Glock would be "neat" BUT -

I carry my G19 everywhere I go all the time and its small enough to be easily concealed, big enough to hold on to while rapidly shooting, has 15+1 capacity, and it more than gets the job done already.

So I really have to ask myself would I really go out and spend more money on a capability that I already have covered, and when all said and done have less to grip and less capacity?

What's the point? Yay, I have spent more money for less capability but I have the new model...

PatrioticDisorder
12-26-13, 12:32
Is anyone actually looking at the dimensions or are we all focusing on the caliber?

G42 vs G19 vs Shield

Length: 5.94 vs 6.85 vs 6.1
Height: 4.13 vs 5 vs 4.6
Width: .836 vs 1.18 vs .95

The G42, if the dimensions shown above are correct, is significantly smaller than the G19 and noticeably smaller than a Shield.

The G26 is noticeably smaller than the Shield as well and there are times that I find the G26 to be a little too big.

I have fired a LCP on several occasions, while it is small, it is also somewhat painful to shoot and the one I fired had an atrocious trigger.

A slightly larger than LCP but smaller than G26/Shield that doesn't have a thumb safety and a decent trigger pull will probably sell like hotcakes. Even if it doesn't have Glocks brand name on it.

For reference, the base line gun that everyone always compares back to, the J-Frame 642/442 dimensions are:

Length 6.31
Height 4.1
Width 1.19 (cylinder)
Weight .94 lbs

So we have something slightly smaller shorter in length with a longer barrel, similar height, lighter base weight (.8375 lbs for G42), a detachable magazine that is easier to reload quickly, decent Glock Safe Action trigger (I suppose) that has the same manual of arms and probably similar design (and may share components) to one of the highest selling handgun platforms on the market.

Is there anything else on the market like this right now?

Not that I am aware of. There are several that are close, but I don't know of any that have all the bases covered.

That is the key to making money. Sell something that no one else does.

A Shield clone would be just that, a Shield clone. While it might be to Glocks advantage to eventually get into that part of the market and try to undermine S&W market share, I think this is a better first step for them.

Getting something that is smaller than anything they have right now, get it in .380 for the Glockophiles out there that have always wanted a .380 and have a reliable (hopefully) and easy to shoot .380 on the market.

There is a high demand in the shooting public for small .380 handguns. Not everyone wants to carry a G19/P30/M&PFS.

The bodyguard beats it out in dimensions and price... That and the fact nobody wants an over priced, hard to find ballistically inferior round from a company with serious QC & CS issues will make this Glock's biggest flop yet. The Shield is the smallest gun I would ever need and Glock fanboys have been asking for a Glock with smilar dimensions for years, yet nothing. It's apparent Glock doesn't give a crap about their customers, which is typical of a European company.

Glock 41 (longslide .45SCP) should be a hit if that is indeed what it is and I haven't heard anything about the Glock 40, but would be pretty funny if it is a .22....

JulyAZ
12-26-13, 13:27
If they're going to make a gun that disappoints like a .380 I would be more appreciative if it were a .22lr or .22mag

Trajan
12-26-13, 14:23
A single stack 9mm Glock would be "neat" BUT -

I carry my G19 everywhere I go all the time and its small enough to be easily concealed, big enough to hold on to while rapidly shooting, has 15+1 capacity, and it more than gets the job done already.

So I really have to ask myself would I really go out and spend more money on a capability that I already have covered, and when all said and done have less to grip and less capacity?

What's the point? Yay, I have spent more money for less capability but I have the new model...

I agree, however you and I both appendix carry. Not everyone does that. In addition, a 90lb female isn't going to be able to hide a G19.

Someone here has a great signature that goes along the lines of "Internet carry: G19. Real life carry: J-frame".

Krull
12-26-13, 14:52
One point I'd like to bring up here that no one seems to want to mention or even thought of.....

How many small single stack 9MM actually work?? I can think of the Walther PPS,Kahr's,Ruger LC9,and the Kel Tech PF9 and the new Springfield XDS and of those a few had some problems when they got let loose on the shooting world,and a few have a so-so reputation (Kahr) never mind I always hear tell that they can be finicky beasts at best,in fact ANY major caliber pistol seems to suffer some reliability loss when you attempt to shove it into a certain sized package.

Never mind things like the Nano........

So maybe the micro 9MM isn't all it's cracked up to be? maybe only a few designs get it "right"?

Also from personal use with a first generation PF9 I can tell you it was one of the least pleasant handgun I had an encounter with,and a Kahr CW9 wasn't too much better,so for me I get antsy when a larger caliber weapon gets sub twenty ounces,in most cases they can be outright painful to lite off.

I'd much rather have a small cal micro that's easy to shoot and hit with then a large cal micro that is a pain in the ass to use.

MegademiC
12-26-13, 18:49
^The shield works fine.^

EzGoingKev
12-26-13, 19:25
^The shield works fine.^
Some do, some do not.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?135400-WHAT-S-SHIPPING-SW-M-amp-P-Shield-9mm-w-Running-Review-%28UPDATED-12-20-13%29

R0CKETMAN
12-27-13, 06:39
A single stack 9mm Glock would be "neat" BUT -

I carry my G19 everywhere I go all the time and its small enough to be easily concealed, big enough to hold on to while rapidly shooting, has 15+1 capacity, and it more than gets the job done already.

So I really have to ask myself would I really go out and spend more money on a capability that I already have covered, and when all said and done have less to grip and less capacity?

What's the point? Yay, I have spent more money for less capability but I have the new model...

As a "if I could only have one handgun it would be my '07 OD Glock 19" guy, I'd say yes IF it was noticeable smaller/thinner. 1911 thin for instance.

Mike169
12-27-13, 08:46
A friend who recently attended armorers class pointed out something on that flier that might indicate its a fake leak. Glock stopped using tenifer awhile ago... Thoughts?

robotoid
12-27-13, 11:56
I think since dealers have been taking pre orders on the premise it will be a .380, they could potentially have a lot of peeved customers if at the last minute they did a "surprise" and it was something else. I am going to Glock armorers class next month, and will not hesitate to relay my displeasure with a .380 that is the size of a 9mm, and that I have no intention of purchasing one. We'll have to see if the class instructors notice me carrying my M&P Shield 9mm.

MegademiC
12-28-13, 02:13
Some do, some do not.

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?135400-WHAT-S-SHIPPING-SW-M-amp-P-Shield-9mm-w-Running-Review-%28UPDATED-12-20-13%29

Same can be said of every gun ever made. The shield, in general is a reliable, accurate pistol that happens to be small. One needs to test equipment before using it for defense if its a ruger380 or a gen2 g17.

mayonaise
12-28-13, 10:15
I think since dealers have been taking pre orders on the premise it will be a .380, they could potentially have a lot of peeved customers if at the last minute they did a "surprise" and it was something else. I am going to Glock armorers class next month, and will not hesitate to relay my displeasure with a .380 that is the size of a 9mm, and that I have no intention of purchasing one. We'll have to see if the class instructors notice me carrying my M&P Shield 9mm.

I'm sure they'll consider your protest appropriately. :rolleyes:

shakazulu12
12-29-13, 11:51
They will probably be more than annoyed that he ignores the "no weapons in class" rule.

robotoid
12-29-13, 18:47
They will probably be more than annoyed that he ignores the "no weapons in class" rule.

If asked, it'll will stay out, conditional on them providing a secure storage location. I do not ever, for any reason, leave my gun in a vehicle.

William B.
12-29-13, 19:06
Then you should call ahead to make sure that secure storage will be provided on site or plan to leave your firearm at home.

ST911
12-29-13, 20:45
Entire agencies and vendors using other brands are nothing unusual at Glock ACs.

Consult your instructor on what classroom procedures will be.

WickedWillis
12-30-13, 12:24
Seeing a bullshit .380 coming from Glock with several years of brass to the face issues and no fix disappoints me and makes me happy I switched to M&Ps at the same time. Gaston is obviously aloof and doesn't give a crap about the US civilian market. Who the hell wants an over sized micro .380 from a company who can't get their currently produced guns to run right???

You might not buy one but they are going to sell regardless being a Glock pocket pistol. As far as the other rampant Glock hating in your post, to each his own, the M&P will be near perfect as soon as they get the Shield trigger incorporated into all of their models.

WickedWillis
12-30-13, 12:26
A friend who recently attended armorers class pointed out something on that flier that might indicate its a fake leak. Glock stopped using tenifer awhile ago... Thoughts?

I saw the Yankee Marshall on youtube point out the same thing, and honestly it is a BIG red flag from guys that actually know Glock. We shall see in a few weeks though.

Wheelhouse
12-30-13, 15:58
They will probably be more than annoyed that he ignores the "no weapons in class" rule.

+1
Recently finished a Glock course and they def. won't allow anyone to carry. They will provide secured storage. I remember that because the instructor told us about a handgun a student requested be stored - then at the end of class he left it there.

pat701
12-30-13, 17:59
More "Glock Perfection"??

Dmaynor
12-30-13, 20:49
More "Glock Perfection"??

Always!

ABNAK
12-31-13, 14:37
Even when the caliber was in speculation as long as it was indeed a "pocket pistol" then I'd have an interest. However, a .380 the size of a Ruger LC9 is NOT a "pocket pistol" by any stretch of the imagination and is in a caliber that others have made in 9mm in the same sized package.

No, this is a retarded f***-up by Glock. I own several Glocks, to include those which I CCW. This over-sized abortion will not be among them. (either give me a tiny 9mm the size of an LC9 or a .380 that I can actually put in my pocket)

EvilBetty
12-31-13, 15:42
Even when the caliber was in speculation as long as it was indeed a "pocket pistol" then I'd have an interest. However, a .380 the size of a Ruger LC9 is NOT a "pocket pistol" by any stretch of the imagination and is in a caliber that others have made in 9mm in the same sized package.

No, this is a retarded f***-up by Glock. I own several Glocks, to include those which I CCW. This over-sized abortion will not be among them. (either give me a tiny 9mm the size of an LC9 or a .380 that I can actually put in my pocket)

My EDC is a LC9. I almost exclusively carry it in a DeSantis pocket holster. I print a bit in tighter fitting jeans but the holster makes it look like a wallet or phone. BUT why carry a 380 if you can carry a 9mm.

The LC380 made a lot of sense for people who could not hand the recoil of the LCP or LC9 I guess.

ABNAK
12-31-13, 17:24
My EDC is a LC9. I almost exclusively carry it in a DeSantis pocket holster. I print a bit in tighter fitting jeans but the holster makes it look like a wallet or phone. BUT why carry a 380 if you can carry a 9mm.

The LC380 made a lot of sense for people who could not hand the recoil of the LCP or LC9 I guess.

My EDC (also known as my "when I'm too lazy to tuck the G19" weapon) is a Ruger LCP. It will fit handily in a front pants pocket with little to no printing BUT it is a .380; guess it's better than screaming for help! I tried the LC9 at the local gunshop I frequent by putting it in my pants pocket. Just like you it prints too much, especially bare. Therefore did not spend the $$$ on it.

kantstudien
12-31-13, 19:15
Nightmare has come true:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/12/26/photos-glock-42-single-stack-380-acp/

Caeser25
12-31-13, 20:05
My EDC (also known as my "when I'm too lazy to tuck the G19" weapon) is a Ruger LCP. It will fit handily in a front pants pocket with little to no printing BUT it is a .380; guess it's better than screaming for help! I tried the LC9 at the local gunshop I frequent by putting it in my pants pocket. Just like you it prints too much, especially bare. Therefore did not spend the $$$ on it.

Same here, except mines a Bodyguard. My I'm just running to the store for milk and bread and I'm wearing basketball shorts gun.

Quiet
01-01-14, 20:12
meh. should have been a single-stack 9x19mm, instead of a .380ACP.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kYgPRN_slog/UsNSXqWyKJI/AAAAAAAABoc/O5w-9LCltrk/w614-h818-no/dLoJAFB.png

FChen17213
01-01-14, 20:39
I wonder how the internals will be different. I am also curious as to what parts will interchange and what parts won't. Has anyone else noticed that this is a 2-pin gun like a Gen2 or early Gen3? I also like the lack of finger grooves.

As much as people hate the gun for being a 380, there are some good things about it. I think most of us like the Gen4 texture, the Gen4 mag release, and lack of finger grooves.

I am wondering the reason for going back to 2 pin configuration. Perhaps, someone who knows a lot more about Glocks than I do can tell us why they went to 3-pin during the Gen3 phase.

brushy bill
01-01-14, 21:22
If it makes the finger grooves go away, I don't care what caliber it is.

Singlestack Wonder
01-01-14, 21:23
[QUOTE=I am wondering the reason for going back to 2 pin configuration. Perhaps, someone who knows a lot more about Glocks than I do can tell us why they went to 3-pin during the Gen3 phase.[/QUOTE]

The 3 pin design came from the introduction of the 40S&W Glock 22. Locking blocks were cracking due to the more powerful cartridge. The 3 pin design then carried over to all models moving forward (except for the upcoming 42).

brushy bill
01-01-14, 21:34
Anyone know if it will have Gen 3 or Gen 4 internals?

carloschutz
01-01-14, 22:47
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carloschutz
01-01-14, 22:55
http://imageshack.us/a/img845/2620/q8y4.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/6720/rf8a.png

RGoose
01-02-14, 09:27
meh. should have been a single-stack 9x19mm, instead of a .380ACP. Not to get into a caliber debate, but I have to agree. I was disappointed with this. However, the silver lining is that Glock may now be more open to producing a single stack 9mm.

Dmaynor
01-02-14, 10:34
You would think that Glock would have a group of people that do research and see what the market wants. In my case I want a single stack 10mm!

WickedWillis
01-02-14, 10:57
I believe that they are putting forth this .380 info and enjoying the shitstorm that has ensued, because they are dropping the single stack 9 at shot.

EvilBetty
01-02-14, 11:24
I believe that they are putting forth this .380 info and enjoying the shitstorm that has ensued, because they are dropping the single stack 9 at shot.

Haha that would not surprise me in the least.

FChen17213
01-02-14, 13:31
The size and 2-pin design then would lead me to believe that while a 9mm would be possible, a .40 in that size would probably not work. Nonetheless, a 9mm version would be very very welcome. For you guys who are good at measuring, I wonder if the grip is shortened so that a 9mm would not be able to fit that frame. You know how the Glock 25 and 28 use the weird looking magazines that are shortened with the waffle like plastic linings? I wonder if this gun's magazines are flush so that the gun will not be able to accomodate 9mm. Then if they make a 9mm version, they'd have to make a new frame by scaling it up.

R0CKETMAN
01-03-14, 06:09
http://imageshack.us/a/img845/2620/q8y4.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/6720/rf8a.png


Note the msrp

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/6720/rf8a.png

Voodoo_Man
01-03-14, 06:28
I want to see it in person and how it performs overall.

FChen17213
01-03-14, 06:30
I think dealers would be able to shed more light on how that MSRP reflects the authenticity of that article. However, it makes sense. The Shield has a lower MSRP than M&P full-size guns and standard compacts. Also, a lower MSRP may reflect a smaller caliber. Generally (not always), larger framed larger caliber guns cost more.

ptmccain
01-03-14, 07:04
"The biggest news for consumers since the Glock 17 was introduced."

Really?

Did Glock higher hookers again to woo the gun media folks??

C4IGrant
01-03-14, 13:17
I handled the new 45 today. Glock has slimmed the width down on the side to that of the G17. It will be interesting to see if they narrow the slide the the 21 as well.

I spoke to someone that shot the new 380 today and he thought that it was a very soft shooting and is smaller framed so people with small hands will like it.



C4

WickedWillis
01-03-14, 13:24
I handled the new 45 today. Glock has slimmed the width down on the side to that of the G17. It will be interesting to see if they narrow the slide the the 21 as well.

I spoke to someone that shot the new 380 today and he thought that it was a very soft shooting and is smaller framed so people with small hands will like it.



C4

Is the capacity the same as the 21 that you know of? Ir is it getting it's own magazines?

C4IGrant
01-03-14, 13:25
Is the capacity the same as the 21 that you know of? Ir is it getting it's own magazines?

I believe that the frame is still the same.



C4

RWH24
01-03-14, 13:35
Here is what I found also today.

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/4884917/gonew/1/Wanna_See_A_Glock_42?#UNREAD

WickedWillis
01-03-14, 13:47
Here is what I found also today.

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/4884917/gonew/1/Wanna_See_A_Glock_42?#UNREAD

Very nice, thank you for sharing this link. It looks good aside from the caliber choice though, but everything else looks like Glock has got it correct. I don't see anything indicating though that they could not use this frame and slide for a 9mm version on the gun.

KCBRUIN
01-03-14, 13:54
Please let the 9mm be announced at SHOT.

skatz11
01-03-14, 13:56
Looks better in terms of size when compared to the LCP. The LCP and Bodyguard are popular pistols. Can't fault Glock for wanting to compete in that market.

I was hoping for a Shield or PPS sized single stack 9mm. Maybe there is hope after all!

BBossman
01-03-14, 14:21
I handled the new 45 today. Glock has slimmed the width down on the side to that of the G17. It will be interesting to see if they narrow the slide the the 21 as well.

I spoke to someone that shot the new 380 today and he thought that it was a very soft shooting and is smaller framed so people with small hands will like it.



C4

So they made a "full size" 30S?

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WickedWillis
01-03-14, 14:22
So they made a "full size" 30S?

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I hope they do a Gen 4 30S for the larger mag release, and 3 factory mags.

brushy bill
01-03-14, 16:37
I believe that they are putting forth this .380 info and enjoying the shitstorm that has ensued, because they are dropping the single stack 9 at shot.

Hope you are right.

walkin' trails
01-03-14, 17:43
I passed by the magazine section at my local supermarket 30 minutes ago and saw the new Glock 380 emblazoned on the cover of Guns & Ammo. I also hope a single stack 9 comes out, but I also recalling that Gaston Glock was about as ecentric as Henry Ford was with his Model T...

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El Cid
01-03-14, 17:49
I handled the new 45 today. Glock has slimmed the width down on the side to that of the G17. It will be interesting to see if they narrow the slide the the 21 as well.


C4
Interesting... So that would mean the 41 isn't going to work with open bottom kydex holsters for the 21. Damn...

carloschutz
01-03-14, 21:59
http://youtu.be/i8C5Y4r5FDk

carloschutz
01-03-14, 22:00
http://youtu.be/UEl-2RmeZhM

carloschutz
01-03-14, 22:00
http://youtu.be/Oo-zBdJRluI

carloschutz
01-03-14, 22:03
http://youtu.be/2EVj5NOywSY

ABNAK
01-03-14, 22:46
http://youtu.be/i8C5Y4r5FDk

No we DIDN'T want it or ask for it. We asked for a single stack 9mm, THAT'S what we asked for. What a load of horseshit.

ABNAK
01-03-14, 22:48
Looks better in terms of size when compared to the LCP. The LCP and Bodyguard are popular pistols. Can't fault Glock for wanting to compete in that market.

I was hoping for a Shield or PPS sized single stack 9mm. Maybe there is hope after all!

Except they are NOT competing in that market. It is in no way, shape, or form a "pocket pistol" like the LCP. Given it's size if it was a 9mm I'd give it a whirl. As a 9mm-sized .380 they can keep it.

carloschutz
01-03-14, 22:52
No we DIDN'T want it or ask for it. We asked for a single stack 9mm, THAT'S what we asked for. What a load of horseshit.

Wait for the G40!
: Dirol:

ABNAK
01-03-14, 22:56
Wait for the G40!
: Dirol:

LOL!!!

skatz11
01-03-14, 22:58
Haha that would be great! What would the 40 cal version be? The G45?

EvilBetty
01-03-14, 23:28
http://youtu.be/2EVj5NOywSY

Why didn't they show it recoil even once I wonder?

Scrubber3
01-03-14, 23:49
Food for thought...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/juqaqe7u.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/ugejy6u5.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/04/ja5y4uzu.jpg

S&W made the shield (9 & .40) within a hair of the 42's size. Ruger made a .380 (LCP) much smaller than the 42. Is there any reason whatsoever to get the 42? It just doesn't make sense to me. Not one bit. They could have easily made this a 9mm and they didn't. They dropped the ball. Plain and simple.

The guy in the vid seems about as sure of himself as Miley Cyrus and about as old..... He is in charge of what again?

Oh yeah, forgot to add: no one I know asked for this. What a let down..... :(

demkofour
01-04-14, 00:21
G40, single stack 9mm...:dirol:

R0CKETMAN
01-04-14, 05:31
I hope they do a Gen 4 30S for the larger mag release, and 3 factory mags.

pregnant with anticipation for this....

ptmccain
01-04-14, 09:02
And, here you go....

http://i1317.photobucket.com/albums/t637/FMJ1911/g42_zpsc0e80403.jpg?t=1388848531



http://youtu.be/i8C5Y4r5FDk

Grip
01-04-14, 09:08
Who the hell has been asking for a .380? I know thousands have been wanting a 9mm single stack that size.

Ill wait for them to make a 9mm version.

Slater
01-04-14, 09:17
As I understand it, Glock has had .380 models for quite some time (Glock 25 and 28?), but due to ATF restrictions they weren't allowed to be imported into the US.

ptmccain
01-04-14, 09:18
Exactly what I thought, "Because you guys have been asking for it."

Really?

Did Glock actually do any customer surveys?

Ruger has a very aggressive Voice of the Customer program where they acutally do go out and get a lot of customer input, their SR1911 was a direct result of extensive customer data gathering.

Did Glock actually go out and ask customers, "Hey, would you rather have a pocket .380 or a pocket 9mm?

I highly doubt it.

For the size of that thing, they could have easily produced a 9mm single stack instead. Perhaps it is coming?

Brianb23
01-04-14, 09:26
Who the hell has been asking for a .380? I know thousands have been wanting a 9mm single stack that size.

Ill wait for them to make a 9mm version.
Any one over the age of 65 who wears khaki shorts all day and lives in a retirement community in Florida.

ptmccain
01-04-14, 09:29
As opposed to carrying a Glock-Brand-Glock brick around that is chambered in 9mm?

Chameleox
01-04-14, 09:31
For the size of that thing, they could have easily produced a 9mm single stack instead. Perhaps it is coming?

At this point, I almost hope not. Glock doesn't have the best experience when it comes to taking an existing platform and modifying it to accept a larger caliber.

They're not stupid, though. They've seen other companies produce decent pocket sized .380s over the last couple years, and now they want in on the action.

Brianb23
01-04-14, 09:45
I'm certain Glock has spent thousands on market research befor ever making a pre production first run. They havent become this successful by making products people won't buy. The European market proves that the .380 is a viable round, just because it's not m4carbine popular doesn't mean it won't sell to the general public.