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CaptainDooley
07-26-09, 19:11
So I'm looking at moving into the 21st century (or at least the late 20th) and upgrading from my 1911 to a polymer wonder nine. I've narrowed it down to the G19 or the S&W M&P9c (if I could find one somewhere to fondle).

My question, since I can't find one, is if someone could tell me the length of the grip on the S&W with the extened mag baseplate on it so that I could compare that to the G19's length (heck, pictures would be swell if someone had both weapons).

I shot the G19 today and it was a decent fit, but I like that the M&P9's grip is a little slimmer (I held a full size today, but it's size increase over the G19 makes it a little too large - if I'm ditching the 1911 I want a smaller weapon), and as long as the compact with the extended mag isn't too much shorter than the G19, I would probably go with one of those...

Gewehr3
07-26-09, 21:26
The M&P 9C offers a thumb safety which will offer a consistent manual of arms with the 1911, and offer a layer of safety against gun grabs, etc.

IMHO the M&P is a more flexible platform for concealment depending on the which magazine floor plate you use.

I found neither the M&P or Glock 19 carry as well iwb as the 1911, both are wide as bricks although much lighter.

John_Wayne777
07-26-09, 21:39
The M&P compact with the extended baseplate in place is indeed slightly shorter than the G19.

As far as size goes, it works like this:

G26 < M&P9C < G19 < M&P < G17 < M&P 45 < G21

CaptainDooley
07-26-09, 22:01
Thanks for the answers and advice.

I really wish I could find one locally, I really can't order one online without at least holding one first - and I don't want to dismiss it until I've checked it out. The G19 is just about on the cusp of being too short for me to get a decent grip on... I could probably still shoot it comfortably if it were a hair shorter... From what I can see from the Glock's specs, it's approximately 2.5" from the bottom of the trigger guard to the bottom of the baseplate - can anyone with an M&P9c give me a similar measurement?

John_Wayne777
07-26-09, 22:45
2.213 inches from the bottom of the trigger guard (the area where it curves back into the frame) to the longest part of the extended baseplate.

1.408 inches from the bottom of the trigger guard to the bottom of the frame. The rest is the magazine and extended baseplate.

CaptainDooley
07-26-09, 22:53
Awesome! Exactly the info I needed!

CaptainDooley
08-02-09, 15:28
I just realized that the full size is roughly the size of my 1911 except it's an inch shorter in OAL and it's a full pound lighter... why am I messing with compacts if the full size gives me smaller and lighter weight than my current carry? I think I may need to rent the full size M&P...

calvin118
08-02-09, 16:32
Ive spent a lot of time with both. While I can (barely) fit all three fingers around the m&p9c with the extended baseplate, it is hard to maintain the grip while firing and it seems to have a whole lot of snap for a 9mm. I am still accurate enough for self defense at ten yards, but its not going to make one hole with 10 rounds or come anywhere close. The G19 is a bit larger, and in my hand it is much easier to get a solid grip. The G19 represents about the smallest thing that I can control really well. A big part of the issue might be my extremely large hand. YMMV.

CaptainDooley
08-02-09, 16:57
Yeah, my hands most resemble hams with short, fat sausages attached to it... So likely I'd have the same issue... I think with the perspective of the full size versus my current carry (full size 1911) I'm going to look at either the G19 or the M&P fullsize. I figure either would carry easier, decrease weight and give me more capacity all in one fell swoop.

Irish
08-03-09, 10:58
Lousy camera phone pictures but hope it helps. G19 and M&P 9mm full size.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1513/pic0034y.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/pic0034y.jpg/)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5930/pic0035.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/i/pic0035.jpg/)

Alpha Sierra
08-03-09, 16:09
I just realized that the full size is roughly the size of my 1911 except it's an inch shorter in OAL and it's a full pound lighter... why am I messing with compacts if the full size gives me smaller and lighter weight than my current carry? I think I may need to rent the full size M&P...

You are right. With the correct holster for your body, a full size M&P is dead easy to conceal, only printing in the most extreme of positions/reach. My compact just does not get carried all that much because of that, being relegated to situations where the risk of even a minor print is unacceptable. Just the same, I rarely carry a J frame when I carry a revolver, as K frames and N frames are just as easy to hide; just heavier.

CaptainDooley
08-03-09, 19:40
Thanks for all the measurements and pics guys - I should be able to hit the range this week and rent an M&P to wrap up the decision...

HK45
08-04-09, 01:00
I prefer M&P over Glock in most cases but the Glock 19 grip length is just barely long enough for me and the M&P 9c is too short. I've got a pinky finger dangling with he M&P9c which doesn't work for me. Fortunately the full size M&P 9 is not all that big and carries very easily in my Raven Concealment holster.

HK45
08-04-09, 01:01
You don't! I always prefer full size to compacts.


I just realized that the full size is roughly the size of my 1911 except it's an inch shorter in OAL and it's a full pound lighter... why am I messing with compacts if the full size gives me smaller and lighter weight than my current carry? I think I may need to rent the full size M&P...

mattpittinger
08-04-09, 13:25
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Hayduke
08-04-09, 23:27
i was also torn between the two, and for me the g19 won. i have neither stubby fingers or large hands and am of average build. the m&p just felt wrong in my hand even before taking it to the range once i was able to finally handle one, and it fit even worse without the extended baseplate and that was the deal sealer for the 19 winning. in a fight i don't want the fit of my gun in my hand changing as i change mags...to be fair however i am considering a grip reduction on the 19 to make it fit more like a 1911.