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zchen
08-06-09, 18:41
Hi, I have read some here have reduced their G17s' grip G19 length. I'm thinking of having this done, but will it introduce any possible side effects? Pictures would be great too, I searched and only found 2 or 3 that have done this.

thanks

Rider79
08-06-09, 18:57
I'd like to know about this as well, I think a 17 with a 19-length grip could be the best of both worlds.

Skintop911
08-06-09, 21:46
Easily done. Measure, mark, tape, cut.

Rider79
08-06-09, 22:32
Easily done. Measure, mark, tape, cut.

Sounds easy, but I'm sure I could screw it up. I have a 2nd Gen 17 with a beat up frame I wouldn't mind trying it with.

Ray T
08-06-09, 23:10
My personal 2nd gen Glock 17 has this mod done to it. I have not encountered any problems with it so far. Nor any of my customers pistols that I have done my chop job to them.

My Glock 17 with G19 grip chop job.
Glock 34 with standard length grip vs. G17 with "grip Chop Job".
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/a002010.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/a002011.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/a002014.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/a002013.jpg

Enhanced G17 with stippled Kasper / Crawford folder.
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/a002018.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/a002016.jpg


Glock 30 SF-Long slide :) (Actually a Glock 21SF with a grip chop job - Glock 19 length), "Urazame" texturing.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ087.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ094.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ091.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ088.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ093.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb68/BrokenArrow13/ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ092.jpg

Business_Casual
08-07-09, 09:16
GotM4 had some similar work done by Hatfield Gunsmiffin' in Manassas, VA. He posted a thread about it here as well.

M_P

Shazam
05-26-11, 12:22
I was hoping to do this as well. Anyone have any recent pictures of this? I have an older G22 and a tonne of G23 mags ...

longball
05-26-11, 12:46
Look here: http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=495&page=76
Scroll down to the bottom. There was a recent post (uwe1) of a 17 chopped for 19 mags. He links to another page and talks some about performing the job on his gun.

TwoSqueeze
05-26-11, 12:47
Holy Necropost Batman!

LowSpeed_HighDrag
05-26-11, 19:35
Holy Necropost Batman!

If he didnt necropost he'd have the forum nazis screaming at him for not searching...

Fire_Medic
05-26-11, 19:45
If he didnt necropost he'd have the forum nazis screaming at him for not searching...

Exactly what I was thinking lol. :jester:

Shazam, I don't have any pictures but they're out there, and this modification has also become common enough that most guys working over Glock grips will do it too. I don't know if you were looking for a DIY or to send it in to someone.

ibjames provided a link for you to a thread that has pictures of this.

one
05-26-11, 23:49
If he didnt necropost he'd have the forum nazis screaming at him for not searching...

Exactly.

theJanitor
05-27-11, 00:32
mine:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5182/5610040749_35c06b3ca3_b.jpg

TwoSqueeze
05-27-11, 07:23
I was just making an observation, no need to get yall's panties in a twist;) *sarcasam*. After doing a pretty good search on this forum I was honestly surprised that this has not been discussed in more detail before. I could have swore that I saw a DIY thread here in the past. Must have been on another forum.

VolGrad
05-27-11, 16:00
I was just making an observation, no need to get yall's panties in a twist;) *sarcasam*. After doing a pretty good search on this forum I was honestly surprised that this has not been discussed in more detail before. I could have swore that I saw a DIY thread here in the past. Must have been on another forum.

I recall that thread too. I thought it was here too but haven't looked.

I have one that was done by Boresight Solutions and it's one of my favorite pistols. I think it is a great carry combo.

misanthropist
05-27-11, 22:50
I have a G17 with this mod. I just ran it in Hackathorn's advanced tactical pistol...if there are side effects to doing this mod I can't find them.

I think this setup is great. There is really no disadvantage to the longer G17 slide concealment-wise, and even though I have hands big enough that I never noticed my Glock 20 being particularly large, there is plenty to grip.

I guess if there's a downside, it would only be that grip plugs don't fit anymore. If you want it plugged, it's got to be something permanent like epoxy. I haven't gotten around to doing that yet, but I probably will.

uwe1
05-27-11, 23:37
I have a G17 with this mod. I just ran it in Hackathorn's advanced tactical pistol...if there are side effects to doing this mod I can't find them.

I think this setup is great. There is really no disadvantage to the longer G17 slide concealment-wise, and even though I have hands big enough that I never noticed my Glock 20 being particularly large, there is plenty to grip.

I guess if there's a downside, it would only be that grip plugs don't fit anymore. If you want it plugged, it's got to be something permanent like epoxy. I haven't gotten around to doing that yet, but I probably will.

My grip plug still fit. You just have to dremel out the half-moon with the sanding wheel to the exact shape of the grip plug and drill a new lanyard hole.

misanthropist
05-28-11, 10:52
My grip plug still fit. You just have to dremel out the half-moon with the sanding wheel to the exact shape of the grip plug and drill a new lanyard hole.

hmmm...I guess that makes sense, maybe I'll give that a go.

uwe1
05-28-11, 11:00
hmmm...I guess that makes sense, maybe I'll give that a go.

On mine, I have a Glockmeister plug, I also had to take a little bit off the plug to make it fit flush (even, flat contour) with the rear mag flat. Otherwise, it protruded just enough that mags didn't completely drop free 100% of the time if the gun wasn't pointing parallel to the ground.

It's not the most beautiful job, and if I had a better selection of tools I could probably smooth it out enough to be professional looking, but it's not (too) ugly, and is 100% functional. I'll see if I can get some pics up later tonight.

misanthropist
05-28-11, 13:11
I'd sure appreciate pictures, that would be great!

uwe1
05-28-11, 19:48
I'd sure appreciate pictures, that would be great!

Cell phone pic... It's was very difficult to get that step to work just right with the G19 mags and the grip plug

You can see some of the areas where I had a hard time trying to shape things just right. In some cases, I switched to an X-acto knife to cut slivers from the plastic. I also had to de-horn the corners of the step.

After polishing things up with 1500 grit sandpaper, mags slide right in and out perfectly.


http://m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=8568&stc=1&d=1306629616

TurretGunner
03-13-14, 12:13
Thinking of buying a 17 do do this. Has anyone taken down the measurements and cuts?

okie john
03-13-14, 14:23
Thinking of buying a 17 do do this. Has anyone taken down the measurements and cuts?

I have not taken down the measurements. The best way to mark where to cut requires having a G19 on hand. Here's how you do it:

1. Detail strip the G19 and the G17, then partially re-insert two of the three pins into one of the frames (let's call this Frame A). Leave the pins sticking out of Frame A about 3/8".
2. Put Frame B beside Frame A so that the pins in Frame A go into the corresponding holes in Frame B. Press the two frames together so that they don't shift in relation to each other.
3. Scribe a line on the side of the G17 frame.
4. Separate the two frames, then repeat the process for the other side of the G17.

From there, cut the G17 frame with a fine-bladed hacksaw. The marking process described above will leave the G17 frame a little bit long, so you'll have to make the final cuts with a rasp. Once a G19 magazine seats easily (with enough clearance to seat in case of dirt or debris) you're almost done, but a couple of finishing touches remain.

Someone has already mentioned cutting the half-moon for the grip plug, but you also have to restore the flare to the magazine well so reloads don't hang up. (The stock G17 magazine well is flared, but you just cut that part off.) This is more of a hassle than any other part of the job. Then finish it up with a fine file and/or a Dremel.

The G19 floor plate rides at a different angle than the G17 floor plate, so a cut job leaves an odd-looking angle between the bottom of the factory texturing and the bottom of the frame. Stippling is a great way to cover this up, but that's a different thread.


Okie John

gradymstack
03-14-14, 02:11
I have not taken down the measurements. The best way to mark where to cut requires having a G19 on hand. Here's how you do it:

1. Detail strip the G19 and the G17, then partially re-insert two of the three pins into one of the frames (let's call this Frame A). Leave the pins sticking out of Frame A about 3/8".
2. Put Frame B beside Frame A so that the pins in Frame A go into the corresponding holes in Frame B. Press the two frames together so that they don't shift in relation to each other.
3. Scribe a line on the side of the G17 frame.
4. Separate the two frames, then repeat the process for the other side of the G17.

From there, cut the G17 frame with a fine-bladed hacksaw. The marking process described above will leave the G17 frame a little bit long, so you'll have to make the final cuts with a rasp. Once a G19 magazine seats easily (with enough clearance to seat in case of dirt or debris) you're almost done, but a couple of finishing touches remain.

Someone has already mentioned cutting the half-moon for the grip plug, but you also have to restore the flare to the magazine well so reloads don't hang up. (The stock G17 magazine well is flared, but you just cut that part off.) This is more of a hassle than any other part of the job. Then finish it up with a fine file and/or a Dremel.

The G19 floor plate rides at a different angle than the G17 floor plate, so a cut job leaves an odd-looking angle between the bottom of the factory texturing and the bottom of the frame. Stippling is a great way to cover this up, but that's a different thread.


Okie John


WOW, I really like that idea.
I did one of these grip chops a few years ago.
Ended up regretting it as I didnt feel like I really gained much of anything besides killing the resale.
That is if that's something that concerns you at all it definitely something to consider.

cttbax
03-17-14, 20:32
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/18/usa2yjes.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/18/ypezepuv.jpghttp://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/18/uzuhetet.jpg

Here is a few if my g17 cut to G19 mags/grip. Damon at SSVI performed this along with the stippling job. I have tried my hand at stippling but I really dont have the artistic vibe going nor am I patient enough to perform this type of work. I think it turned out well. His turn around time was reasonable as well.

Texaspoff
03-19-14, 09:22
I have done a ton of them and they are becoming more popular.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff295/Texaspoff/DSC_0463.jpg
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TXPO

SeriousStudent
03-19-14, 21:04
Lane, I was hope you would post some pics of your work.

I need to send you a G17 frame to do your magic on.