View Full Version : Do I really need any USGI mags?
Hey guys. I've only really gotten into the AR world in the last 6-8 months (of course since then I've immersed myself in the topic, probably spending more time on m4carbine than my boss would appreciate:p). Anyway by that time PMAGs were already the cats meow and honestly they are the only thing I really have much experience with. My DD came with a pmag and since then I've acquired about 8 more--when ever I order something I usually just tack 1 or 2 on. They function great, are close to bomb proof and haven't given me a single problem. I was getting ready to order a few more things and got to thinking maybe I should give a some aluminum or steel mags a go to see how they worked/held up. Honestly I can't imagine I'm really missing anything but just wanted to get some opinions. So what say the masses--worth a try for a new guy or just stick with the pmags I know and love? Also if I was to grab some I would obviously either get with or retro fit with magpul followers but whats consensus on cs vs ss springs? Thanks everyone.
M4tographer
09-01-09, 00:25
All I ever use are USGI mags. They hold ammo inside and feed it into the rifle on demand. That's all I've ever asked my mags to do for me.
Do you NEED any GI mags... not really. But aluminum Mags can be a good bang for the buck. These from Bravo Company are are good mags and come with Magpul enhanced followers for $9.99:
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20bt30mf.htm
I have ten of the Bravo (D&H) mags and the are good mags. 10 quality mags for about 100 bucks isn't bad. They make for a nice little stash of mags in case of a EOTWAWKI scenario. Pmag's are my main mags and my first choice though. Personally I'd like to have at least 10 Pmags per rifle.
lanceriley
09-01-09, 01:00
I still have some gi. but honestyly.. I use my pmags and lancer mags in training and competition.
gruntinhusaybah
09-01-09, 01:49
I get all the USGI mags I want for free, I still buy PMags with my own coin.
as was mentioned, you'll save bit of money going with the GI mags, and if they're range/fun you'll be fine
PMags definately get points for CDI
If you ever use a chest rig or some other mag carrying system, then the PMAG's floorplates can interfere when you stuff two in a pouch. I just stagger them a little and they're good to go.
PMAGs are all that I will buy anymore.
GI mags work, but I would honestly spend the extra few dollars and buy PMAG's.
I have used GI mags for about the last 18 years (Marine) they work, and so do PMags. I have never had a problem with GI mags from 20 below zero to 120. So need is based on you, I think they both work with proper maintenance.
I've been using P-mags for work for over 2 years. No issues. I still have and will keep GI mags around, with magpul followers. I have noticed some shingles are difficult with P-mags, TT comes to mind. But overall I suppose it's why there's a Mercedes and a Z-71 in the garage! They both get me where I'm going.
I like consistency, personally. I stuck with GI mags longer than many, and was only ever tempted into the Pmags when they released the batch of orange.
I don't have much of an opinion on Pmag vs. GI, but I will say that I'd choose one or the other to run with and stick with it.
RogerinTPA
09-01-09, 11:29
Do you NEED any GI mags... not really. But aluminum Mags can be a good bang for the buck. These from Bravo Company are are good mags and come with Magpul enhanced followers for $9.99:
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20bt30mf.htm
I have ten of the Bravo (D&H) mags and the are good mags. 10 quality mags for about 100 bucks isn't bad. They make for a nice little stash of mags in case of a EOTWAWKI scenario. Pmag's are my main mags and my first choice though. Personally I'd like to have at least 10 Pmags per rifle.
I have 40 aluminum mags with the Magpul enhanced followers from BCM and DSG. At the current price, they are a great bargain. I don't think I've ever seen such quality Alum USGI mags at that price. Even the POS Bushmaster and Cproducts are going for $25.00 in a lot of places. That said, I do have around 80 Pmags. BCM also have the Brownells mags, brown in color with the enhanced followers and CS spring for the same price. http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-Brownells-p/mag%20brnl%20t30%20cs%20503.htm
Warning: Stay away from Cproducts and Bushmaster Mags!
Warning: Stay away from Cproducts and Bushmaster Mags!
:confused:
Why? Have they changed? Bushmaster mags are (used to be?) D&H Teflon mags. Very high quality.
Parabellum9x19mm
09-01-09, 12:42
dont forget about L5 Lancer magazines.
they are worth a look.
dont forget about L5 Lancer magazines.
they are worth a look.
I'm removing mine from my rotation, FWIW. I have two and have had problems with both, and other shooters at our matches have had problems as well.
I have a some 20 round aluminum mags, the rounded ones. I find that they are a little easier to grab from the magwell than the straight 20 round PMAGS. they all have the magpul followers and run flawlessly. I would find a mag that works and stick to that type.
lanceriley
09-01-09, 13:20
I'm removing mine from my rotation, FWIW. I have two and have had problems with both, and other shooters at our matches have had problems as well.
what's wrong with them? Im just starting to use them. and would like to know some future problems.
Yes you do. In fact you should buy the 20 I have for sale so I can buy some more Pmags :)
Thanks guys, I appreciate all the feedback. For those of you running GI mags I definitely wasn't making any comments about them being unreliable, etc. or saying they were inferior to pmags as I said I don't have any experience with them. Its interesting to hear about possible issues pulling pmags from some brands of mag pouches. rob_s and IG make good points about standardization though, especially since I already have and like pmags. It probably was the price of the brownell mags at bravo company that peaked my interest (3 aluminum = 2 pmags price wise). If I do decide to pick up a couple, whats the consensus on cs vs ss springs?
ETA:
dont forget about L5 Lancer magazines.
they are worth a look.
I hadn't looked much at the L5's but I was also thinking of grabbing 1 Tango Down just for variety. But then again I think the consistency/standardization argument that was made is a strong one. Thanks again
Parabellum9x19mm
09-01-09, 14:40
I'm removing mine from my rotation, FWIW. I have two and have had problems with both, and other shooters at our matches have had problems as well.
what kind of problems have you and the other shooters experienced? i have 23 Lancer mags i think. i haven't had any real issues myself, but i'd like to be aware of any potential issues.
only one of my Lancers has a green follower, the rest have black followers, including the one 20 round Lancer i have...
i've only run Lancers in two 3gun matches. in one match i used them exclusively, but i haven't put them through their paces as much as you and your fellow shooters, i'd wager.
now i'm scared that i might be going back to USGI for my go-to mags.....again.
so like everyone else here, i stared with USGI as my primary magazines. then went to PMags. then back to USGI. then started going to Lancers. *sigh*
FWIW DSG arms has non M rev PMags for $10.50. At that price there's no reason to buy aluminum mags.
Bushmaster mags (to the best of my knowledge) are unmarked and I don't think they are made by D&H. You can notice a distinct difference in the followers and the spline where the weld is.
:confused:
Why? Have they changed? Bushmaster mags are (used to be?) D&H Teflon mags. Very high quality.
...i stared with USGI as my primary magazines. then went to PMags. then back to USGI...
Just curious why did you go from pmags back to usgi? Was it a mag pouch issue in training/competition or something else?
While bushmaster Mags do seem to be good quality, they don't appear to be the same as my D&H mags.
PMags are combat proven and will serve you well. I'm in the process of getting a few more myself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/AMMOTECH/090813-A-1211M-002.jpg
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I have found that USGI mags seem to fit in my Eagle FB mag pouch better than P-mags (But I do insist on magpul followers)
Am I the only person who has found that it is harder to doa tac reload with PMAGs than aluminum mags. Don't get me wrong, PMAGS are great and probably more durable than regular GI mags, but I noticed this issue with them.
geminidglocker
09-06-09, 20:02
My Bushmaster mag.(I only own one) Has not given me an issue. It says BFI, Windham,ME With the snake logo. on the floorplate. It has a grey follower marked 5.56. Hmm... I use Lancers frequently, I like them so far. I have never had an issue with the GI mags I carried in Iraq. I did make a point of inspecting them thoroughly before carrying them, as I had seen some of the grunts dissassembling them and "Stretching" the springs. $9.99 @ Bravo sounds like a good deal to me. Go for it. My local retailer tries to rape folks by charging 25 for GI mags.
Would someone be kind enough to enlighten me as to the issues with C Products mags? I have never bought any (I am a GI contract mag kind of guy), but I have 40 or 50 new C Products mags sitting in a box from a prior trade. Many thanks in advance.
RogerinTPA
09-07-09, 13:12
Would someone be kind enough to enlighten me as to the issues with C Products mags? I have never bought any (I am a GI contract mag kind of guy), but I have 40 or 50 new C Products mags sitting in a box from a prior trade. Many thanks in advance.
From my personal experience, I had 10 new CProds at one point, purchased about 21/2 to 3 years ago. 2 of 10 would not drop free. Most could not be inserted with the bolt forward without considerable effort. Many would induce a double feed or fail to cycle a round into the chamber, due to insufficient spring tension. Someone did a comparison of them and the Cprods springs were significantly shorter than the other half dozen or so mags compared. Maybe current production is GTG, but many have experienced the same thing. I'd check every one to see if they will drop free and see if they can be inserted with the bcg forward. Other than that, be prepared to rebuild them if that start to malfunction. OR sell them at gunbroker, a gunshow, since they are new or sell them on BARFCOM. Someone over there should snap them up, then buy 50 mags from Bravo Company, with magpul followers for $9.99.
what kind of problems have you and the other shooters experienced? i have 23 Lancer mags i think. i haven't had any real issues myself, but i'd like to be aware of any potential issues.
only one of my Lancers has a green follower, the rest have black followers, including the one 20 round Lancer i have...
i've only run Lancers in two 3gun matches. in one match i used them exclusively, but i haven't put them through their paces as much as you and your fellow shooters, i'd wager.
now i'm scared that i might be going back to USGI for my go-to mags.....again.
so like everyone else here, i stared with USGI as my primary magazines. then went to PMags. then back to USGI. then started going to Lancers. *sigh*
I mainly use lancers and pmags. Everything has been positive. The reason why you have black followers was specifically for problems with bushmaster ARs (there is a rep on ar15.com). Great mags, especially compared to the windowed Pmags in my opinion.
The_War_Wagon
09-12-09, 18:34
I have to use both - my M&P15T is an early model, that won't TAKE PMags, but my POF likes PMags just fine! :D
In fact, that's how I keep 'em seperated (although I have GI's for range mags, and even some Orlites, for the POF - the M&P doesn't like Orlites, either) - makes it easy to know which mags go with which rifle/gear.
All I have are GI mags...Colt...but with all this talk of pmags, I may have to give them a try just to say I have some.
Am I the only person who has found that it is harder to doa tac reload with PMAGs than aluminum mags. Don't get me wrong, PMAGS are great and probably more durable than regular GI mags, but I noticed this issue with them.
I spent all day yesterday and the day before "noticing" this.
I find it difficult to do the "OK" type where you grab low on the fresh mag with your pointer and thumb wrapped around it and grab high on the mag in the gun with the thumb and the rest of the fingers. But I find it pretty easy to do the "L" method even with the Pmags.
Iraq Ninja
09-13-09, 08:17
I only use Pmags at work. That said, if I had to come up with something bad about them, it would be how the base plate is not flush with the body. This may be an issue in some pouches and may result in slower draws. I use shingles and have no problems with them.
USGI mags are probably the only universal mag today. You don't have to worry about it fitting weapon X, Y, or Z since they are probably designed around the USGI mag in the first place.
N.Franklin
09-13-09, 11:40
I feel there are better options out there than USGI mags, having seen them come out of the case with broken welds on the spine. When you order and issue out 2600 at a time you will tend to see things like that, but the issue was persistent enough that I made the personal choice of supplying my own magazines when I deployed. Only issue I have with pmags is securing them into mag pouches, the 3 mag shingles we get you cannot snap the flaps shut over the top of them and with eagle FB pouches I cannot get enough velcro contact to keep the flap over them either. HK mags have the same issues although not as bad as the pmag; Fusil mags are the same dimensions as USGI but made of stainless steel and look ugly, but have worked flawlessly for me so far. Fusils have the same finish as USGI mags as well, so they will not attract uniformity nazi CSM's like a tan or green pmag will.:D
GI mags are fine IF you replace the factory followers w/Magpuls. I've done that to about 25 mags. Even w/ tourque'd (spl?) springs the work great.
Celt
Thanks for all the replies and insight guys. I went ahead and ordered a few of the brownell mags from bravo co just to give them a go and see how I like them. Also picked up a few more pmags since I already know I love those and they function great. For anybody who needs pmags and hasn't seen, bravo co. has a sweet deal going on windowed foliage.
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Magpul-PMAG-AR15-Magazine-p/magpul%20pmag%2030%20fgreen%20window.htm
I have GI mags but have switched to using just pmags.
I went ahead and ordered a few of the brownell mags from bravo co
FWIW, those are not the magazines I would have ordered from Bravo.
these are (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20gt30mf.htm)
FWIW, those are not the magazines I would have ordered from Bravo.
these are (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20gt30mf.htm)
I thought I had read (I'm pretty sure on here somewhere, can't find the threads) that the DH mags of today are not the same quality as DH mags of the past and that the brownells mags were g2g??? Can you give me a little more insight into why you believe the DH are the better product or flaws with the brownells? Just curious, not gonna ruin my day or anything. Either way its just a test and I picked up more pmags as well.:)
PMags are combat proven and will serve you well. I'm in the process of getting a few more myself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/AMMOTECH/090813-A-1211M-002.jpg
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That looks like a Leupold scope, (maybe 1.5-5 w/SPR reticle?) . also note the LMT SOPMOD stock and grip pod up front. I think he spent some of his own money. And all the p-mags.
Are these things issued in the system, now?
That looks like a Leupold scope, (maybe 1.5-5 w/SPR reticle?) . also note the LMT SOPMOD stock and grip pod up front. I think he spent some of his own money. And all the p-mags.
Are these things issued in the system, now?
Jack I believe that all of those things are "in the system" now, if not widely issued then at least available, as are many other items we may not think of as available to these guys.
Steve B said he'd acquired an Aimpoint T-1 and many Pmags through his supply guy, and I'm pretty sure I've seen somewhere that the Grip-Pod things have become an issue item in some cases.
Rock-N-Ruin
09-15-09, 13:02
FWIW, those are not the magazines I would have ordered from Bravo.
these are (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20gt30mf.htm)
Those are the grey teflon for $9.99.
They also have the same in black teflon for $8.99 each:D
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20bt30.htm
I may have to order some of the black teflon mags and some of the 1st gen pmags from DSG for $10.50
http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/2518_25/magpul-pmag-gen-1-non-rev-m---black.cfm
Take advantage of the current market.. I am. still waiting for primers though!!!!
Those are the grey teflon for $9.99.
They also have the same in black teflon for $8.99 each:D
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20bt30.htm
The ones I linked to have the Magpul followers, which I think are worth the extra $1 personally.
Rock-N-Ruin
09-15-09, 13:24
The ones I linked to have the Magpul followers, which I think are worth the extra $1 personally.
ooops, missed that!
The ones I linked to have the Magpul followers, which I think are worth the extra $1 personally.
Any other reason behind DH instead Brownell's other than the Magpul followers. The ones I ordered were these; also with the Magpul follower
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-Brownells-p/mag%20brnl%20g30%20cs%20489.htm
I've noticed a few considerations that some may not have considered. I have.....
(1) Bushmaster - No FTF problems
(1) C-Products - Never fired yet
(1) USGI mag - Never fired yet
(1) Cammenga Easymag - Never fired yet.
During mag drills I noticed that the Cammenga mag offered excellent grip and is very easy to top off with it's design. While the bushy, USGI, and C-products mags were all a little slippery with sweaty or CLP soaked hands. I found the Cammenga mag to be easier to grab, secure, and load then the other mags. For ops using gloves this may or may not be an issue but should be considered. Once I test fire the mags I'll make my decision as to which mags I will go with.
The Cammenga mag is steel and does weigh a bit more but I feel the trade off is worth it for what appears to be a very high quality, well made mag.
FWIW, those are not the magazines I would have ordered from Bravo.
these are (http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20gt30mf.htm)
DH magazines are not USGI and are not up to the standard of OKay or New Haven MFG magazines.
DH magazines are not USGI and are not up to the standard of OKay or New Haven MFG magazines.
Can you point to a link where someone can buy the Okay or New Havens?
BTW...
Brownells magazines ARE issued as posters on Lightfighter have reported receiving them. They have also reported problems with them despite the fact that they are "GI". Like many things, "GI" isn't the be-all/end-all.
Those are the grey teflon for $9.99.
They also have the same in black teflon for $8.99 each:D
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20bt30.htm
I may have to order some of the black teflon mags and some of the 1st gen pmags from DSG for $10.50
http://dsgarms.com/index.cfm/product/2518_25/magpul-pmag-gen-1-non-rev-m---black.cfm
Take advantage of the current market.. I am. still waiting for primers though!!!!
I ordered a few :D of those gen 1 from DSG a couple weeks ago, I couldn't believe it when I clicked on the bargain pile link, unless you have magwell issues or pouch issues with the gen 1 there's no reason not to stock up at $10.50 a piece.
Submariner
09-15-09, 19:15
I ordered a few :D of those gen 1 from DSG a couple weeks ago, I couldn't believe it when I clicked on the bargain pile link, unless you have magwell issues or pouch issues with the gen 1 there's no reason not to stock up at $10.50 a piece.
What is the date of manufacture on them?
RogerinTPA
09-15-09, 19:52
For you dedicated USGI Magazine fans:
OKAY http://www.operationparts.com/OKAY_AR_15_30_ROUND_GI_ALUMINUM_MAGAZINE_p/l9a.htm
NHMTG http://weaponparts.storesecured.com/items/specials-/n-h-m-t-g-ar-15-30-rd-mags-gi-6-pack-nhmtg-30round-mags-ar-15-detail.htm
COLT http://www.fedtactical.com/Colt-AR-15-30-Round-Mag-Blue?m1track=googlebase&utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=export_feed&%3BosCsid=449ca72d9a81ec9773a28c118e6dabc5#googlebase
For you dedicated USGI Magazine fans:
OKAY http://www.operationparts.com/OKAY_AR_15_30_ROUND_GI_ALUMINUM_MAGAZINE_p/l9a.htm
NHMTG http://weaponparts.storesecured.com/items/specials-/n-h-m-t-g-ar-15-30-rd-mags-gi-6-pack-nhmtg-30round-mags-ar-15-detail.htm
COLT http://www.fedtactical.com/Colt-AR-15-30-Round-Mag-Blue?m1track=googlebase&utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=export_feed&%3BosCsid=449ca72d9a81ec9773a28c118e6dabc5#googlebase
If that's a COLT mag, I'm the King of France!
Can you point to a link where someone can buy the Okay or New Havens?
BTW...
Brownells magazines ARE issued as posters on Lightfighter have reported receiving them. They have also reported problems with them despite the fact that they are "GI". Like many things, "GI" isn't the be-all/end-all.
http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NH30
New Haven and Okays are consistently known to be the best GI aluminum magazines.
RogerinTPA
09-15-09, 20:53
If that's a COLT mag, I'm the King of France!
I hear ya!
RogerinTPA
09-15-09, 20:54
http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NH30
New Haven and Okays are consistently known to be the best GI aluminum magazines.
That's the best price I've seen on the New Havens. I may have to pick up a few.;)
I have 40 aluminum mags with the Magpul enhanced followers from BCM and DSG. At the current price, they are a great bargain. I don't think I've ever seen such quality Alum USGI mags at that price. Even the POS Bushmaster and Cproducts are going for $25.00 in a lot of places. That said, I do have around 80 Pmags. BCM also have the Brownells mags, brown in color with the enhanced followers and CS spring for the same price. http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-Brownells-p/mag%20brnl%20t30%20cs%20503.htm
Warning: Stay away from Cproducts and Bushmaster Mags!
WHAT?!? I read in a magazine (heh get it?) that Cproducts were the choice of the Special Forces, and Bushmaster is MIL-SPEC!?!
Why would you not recommend them?!?!?
:rolleyes:
I've used mil issued in sand box 5 times in 91 some as old as me. just clean and inspect if looked bad pull out of use..distroy. took a Beta Mag on last trip. the unit we replaced tried to trade out mags in crappy shape, full of sand not maintained:eek:. bought 18 PMAGs personnal use and for next trip(?) of note I've still got orginal 20 rnd mags that work great with aluminum followers I've been using for over 20 years
Has any one noticed the change in PMAGs feed lips? the Blk ones I've got are different than the tan ones?
Beta Mag is great in M-4A1:D:D my M249 gunners was shocked
RogerinTPA
09-19-09, 10:51
WHAT?!? I read in a magazine (heh get it?) that Cproducts were the choice of the Special Forces, and Bushmaster is MIL-SPEC!?!
What ever.
Why would you not recommend them?!?!?:rolleyes:
Poor quality and unreliability. Out of the 10 I used to own, 2 would not drop free, several induced double feeds, inadequate spring length, not easy to do tac reloads with the BCG forward without using considerable effort. I had to rebuild all 10 to get adequate reliability. Money better spent else where, had I did some research and bought quality mags in the first place. The CProd mags were over 2 years old. The quality may have changed due to the many complaints, but folks are still reporting issues with them. If you own them, use them until you experience problems, then replace them. Remember that Mags are expendable/disposable items. I don't get emotionally wrapped around the axle about them, but I do expect a higher level of reliability than that. The good thing about them, I was able to practice on my malfunction drills.:)
The problem with BM mags, is they are way too expensive and poorer quality. No one knows who makes them. There are better selections out there than to throw money down the drain, but hey, it's your money.
What ever.
Poor quality and unreliability. Out of the 10 I used to own, 2 would not drop free, several induced double feeds, inadequate spring length, not easy to do tac reloads with the BCG forward without using considerable effort. I had to rebuild all 10 to get adequate reliability. Money better spent else where, had I did some research and bought quality mags in the first place. The CProd mags were over 2 years old. The quality may have changed due to the many complaints, but folks are still reporting issues with them. If you own them, use them until you experience problems, then replace them. Remember that Mags are expendable/disposable items. I don't get emotionally wrapped around the axle about them, but I do expect a higher level of reliability than that. The good thing about them, I was able to practice on my malfunction drills.:)
The problem with BM mags, is they are way too expensive and poorer quality. No one knows who makes them. There are better selections out there than to throw money down the drain, but hey, it's your money.
LOL
Im sorry, I thought everyone here would have figured out my comment was tongue in cheek. I mean come on I even added in the caps and ridiculous amounts of exclamation points and the roll eyes ...
Ive got a friend like that. Nearly every time I make some dry witted, or sardonic remark, hell come back and correct me matter of factually.
I'm starting to think he does it on purpose nowadays just to watch my reaction.
Ive never owned any cmags and I aint about to try any out. I bought HK mags when I was already at Liberty. I liked em, but I probably would have went with p-mags had I known about em but I didn't. I didnt know about them until Grant showed em to me and didnt need em since I had the HKs. I might buy some now as I got rid of a few.
I owned a bushmaster once and it was a total POS, with malfunctions galore. This was back in the days of AR's being ABC only, and RRA had just come on scene.
Yeah, Id like a rock river arms..... 1911. Thats about it though...
Right now I own a very stock BCM as I havent been employed since I got out of the army nearly a year and a half ago.
Very nice. Kind of would like to try something different though. By different I mean something other than an AR. Thats a different subject though.
RogerinTPA
09-19-09, 14:12
LOL
Im sorry, I thought everyone here would have figured out my comment was tongue in cheek. I mean come on I even added in the caps and ridiculous amounts of exclamation points and the roll eyes ...
Sometimes we get a in flood of folks who actually believe what you wrote, and will defend their choice to their dying breath.:rolleyes: No worries mate.
I know I dont post much, but I have been a member for around two years. I dont typically see that sort of crap here as you would on ar15.com. I guess maybe there is an influx of new guys who are clueless(not always synonymous as the new guy may be a Vet or LEO just discovering the site).
Later
i have no problem with gi mags with the magpul followers. i use sanchez, parsons, and center. i love the pmags the best by far though.
GLOCKMASTER
09-19-09, 18:12
The aluminum mag will serve you well as long as it is of good quality. Neither one is really any better than the other as long as they work.
snackgunner
01-10-11, 17:26
Im looking to stock up on a lot of mags (once they are in stock).
Can someone explain to me the difference between these 2 mags?
Is one better/more reliable than the other? And if so, why?
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-Brownells-p/mag%20brnl%20g30%20cs%20489.htm
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20gt30mf.htm
Wow, talk about a necropost.
snackgunner
01-10-11, 18:28
Sorry for running a search on usgi mags and asking a question.
Maybe if I made a new thread I would have actually gotten some help.
Sorry for running a search on usgi mags and asking a question.
Maybe if I made a new thread I would have actually gotten some help.
No, you would have goten at leats 10 posts from different pepole telling you how to use the search function. I think what happened was that no one uses the thing so I am thinking its a shok for some to see it being used :D
As far as the only difference I can see is in the coating, ones teflon, the other is not.
Im looking to stock up on a lot of mags (once they are in stock).
Can someone explain to me the difference between these 2 mags?
Is one better/more reliable than the other? And if so, why?
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-Brownells-p/mag%20brnl%20g30%20cs%20489.htm
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/AR-15-Magazines-p/magazines%20dh%20gt30mf.htm
As best I can tell: One is made by Brownell's (not sure who makes them for them if or they do themselves), specifies specifically that it has a CS spring and is out of stock. The second one is made by D&H, doesn't explicitly say what type of spring, and is in stock.
Beat Trash
01-11-11, 13:23
If I were buying aluminum bodied magazines, the D&H teflon coated ones with the MagPul followers are what I would buy.
Lately, I've been seeing sales on 30 rd PMAGs which makes the price only a couple of dollars more.
Doc Glockster
01-11-11, 13:52
Just my two cents, I have a bunch of USGI mags just because they were cheap from a local dealer. A buddy of mine who is ex-US Army bought a bunch too even though he has told me the story many times about how he and his fellow troops used to hold onto the mags they knew were good and find ways to get rid of the rest. I think USGI mags are okay as long as you've tested them in your rifle several times and you are not afraid to ditch the ones that don't work.
I own Pmags too so I'm not biased one way or another.
Magic_Salad0892
01-11-11, 13:53
I've pretty much relegated to all Aluminum USGI mags. (D&H)
Scottryan: the .44MAG link you posted no longer shows New Haven or OKAY magazines. If you have a new source to find New Haven mags, I'd really appreciate it.
My reason for relegating to USGI magazines it because every 5.56x45mm NATO rifle designed that doesn't use a proprietary magazine (AK, G36, Etc.) is designed around USGI.
I buy mine from Bravo as was posted earlier. Thanks for the link btw. I didn't know you could get them with Magpul followers.
One reason I like them is because of price, you could get 10 for $100 where you'd get 5 PMAGs for the same amount of money.
Less is more.
...you are not afraid to ditch the ones that don't work.
That goes for any magazine. Mags are consumables and should be treated as such.
Sorry for running a search on usgi mags and asking a question.
Maybe if I made a new thread I would have actually gotten some help.
Youdid the right thing. Had you started a new thread someone would have jumped on you for not searching.
Outlander Systems
01-11-11, 20:04
I've pretty much relegated to all Aluminum USGI mags. (D&H)
Scottryan: the .44MAG link you posted no longer shows New Haven or OKAY magazines. If you have a new source to find New Haven mags, I'd really appreciate it.
My reason for relegating to USGI magazines it because every 5.56x45mm NATO rifle designed that doesn't use a proprietary magazine (AK, G36, Etc.) is designed around USGI.
I buy mine from Bravo as was posted earlier. Thanks for the link btw. I didn't know you could get them with Magpul followers.
One reason I like them is because of price, you could get 10 for $100 where you'd get 5 PMAGs for the same amount of money.
Less is more.
This, all for the same reasons. There's absolutely no question whether or not a STANAG mag, in good shape, will work in any weapon designed for STANAG mags.
The further I get into all of this, the more bullshit I shave away from the ice cream.
snackgunner
01-11-11, 20:49
Thanks for the help fellas.
RogerinTPA
01-11-11, 22:26
NHMTG 20 & 30 round mags at palmetto state armory $11.99. http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/nhmtg.php
I've pretty much relegated to all Aluminum USGI mags. (D&H)
Scottryan: the .44MAG link you posted no longer shows New Haven or OKAY magazines. If you have a new source to find New Haven mags, I'd really appreciate it.
My reason for relegating to USGI magazines it because every 5.56x45mm NATO rifle designed that doesn't use a proprietary magazine (AK, G36, Etc.) is designed around USGI.
I buy mine from Bravo as was posted earlier. Thanks for the link btw. I didn't know you could get them with Magpul followers.
One reason I like them is because of price, you could get 10 for $100 where you'd get 5 PMAGs for the same amount of money.
Less is more.
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