Magpul Masada Pre-Order List

[C4IGrant]

There is no ETA or cost estimate, but am taking names for orders now if anyone is interested.



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http://www.magpul.com/Masada_inside.pdf

[RAM Engineer]

Hell, sign me up. Add one to my current list (BCM 16" Middy upper, Sabre 16" Middy Upper, etc...)

Jason Smith

[ArCane]

1 - FDE one for me.

[R.D.]

Add me to the list too.

[Bulldog1967]

I'm in.

One .223 and one .308 :D

[vinesr6]

Me too...:cool:

[Bolt_Overide]

Ill take some of that action x2..

[SuicideHz]

I will be buying one. Might as well be from you. Add me to the list.

[ROSS4712]

I'll take a 10.5

[rayray]

I'm in, put Me down for a 14.5" Carbine 5.56mm in the Dark Earth color.

[Boomer10]

Grant, I sent you an email about placing me on the preorder.

[combatvet]

Please let me know when you start accepting deposits, 14.5 carbine Dark Earth here.

[Foxandreed]

Hell yeah!, especially if shoots as good as it looks to be. Sign me up for one and send me a heads up when ready for my money.

[mark5pt56]

Grant, Are the 14.5 going to have the FH pinned/welded?

I'm in, FDE.

Mark

[C4IGrant]

Grant, Are the 14.5 going to have the FH pinned/welded?

I'm in, FDE.

Mark



I doubt it. The 14.5's will generally be LE only or be a registered SBR.


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[mark5pt56]

I doubt it. The 14.5's will generally be LE only or be a registered SBR.


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Grant, So, it's SBR or 18"? Are there plans to do a 16"

Mark

[C4IGrant]

Grant, So, it's SBR or 18"? Are there plans to do a 16"

Mark


I am sure there will be a 16", 18" and maybe a 20". Remember that you can use any barrel you want. So if you want a 14.5 you can install one yourself.

I imagine if they want to register guns as SBR's and you have the form 1 approved thatyou could order a complete 14.5 from them. I would be surprised if they went to all this trouble though.

I personally hope that they will offer the weapon to dealers with NO barrel so we can put in whatever the customer likes.


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[SuicideHz]

Assuming they'll sell all the barrels separately at the beginning...

Is that the plan?

[Bcm3087]

Add one for me. That will be my next gun on letterhead.

-Bryan

PS-Email also sent.

[VA_Dinger]

Count me in.

16" - Black - no rail hand guard version.

[Derek_Connor]

count me in

[C4IGrant]

Assuming they'll sell all the barrels separately at the beginning...

Is that the plan?

No idea if they will or not.



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[mark5pt56]

I am sure there will be a 16", 18" and maybe a 20". Remember that you can use any barrel you want. So if you want a 14.5 you can install one yourself.

I imagine if they want to register guns as SBR's and you have the form 1 approved thatyou could order a complete 14.5 from them. I would be surprised if they went to all this trouble though.

I personally hope that they will offer the weapon to dealers with NO barrel so we can put in whatever the customer likes.


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I would start with a 16" OD, maybe go sbr from after.

[cpekz]

Please sign me up for a 16" in 5.56.

[9DivDoc]

Please put me down for (1) 16" OD or FD

[Batt 57]

Grant,
I am in also.... 16" FDE

[G19Tony]

I will take one in 16 inch FDE please. :D

[Heavy Metal]

I am in.

Olive Green 1st choice, FDE second choice for color.

[rayray]

Well since 14.5 is LE only, I want a 16" version.

[VA_Dinger]

Is their both a railed and non-railed hand guard version?

[SuicideHz]

They are screw-on. Probably come with a few.

[fivepointoh]

16" 5.56 ....I'm in


ETA: FDE!

[deserteaglexxx]

Put me on the list for one.

[M4arc]

Grant, put me down for a 16" FDE one.

Is their both a railed and non-railed hand guard version?

Yes there is going to be a railed and non-railed version. However the non-railed version will still accept accessories at the 3, 6, 9 o'clock positions.

Masada Technote (PDF) (http://www.magpul.com/pdfs/masada_technote.pdf)

[mark5pt56]

I would start with a 16" OD, maybe go sbr from after.

Changed to OD!

[fivepointoh]

What would be sweet for me (being that I can't have SBR's in Illinoisistan) would be a Masada w/ a long rail, 13.7" barrel, KX3 all in FDE...oh well.

I'm still down for a 16" FDE :D

[threefeathers]

Yes Grant I want one.

[glock40cal]

Add me to the list.

[ashooter]

What the heck... I'm in.

[SuicideHz]

Grant- since these are 1 year or more out, can we make this pre-order list work differently than the P-mag one in that we won't have to remember to come back and look at the thread? :p

Seriously, are you making a real list and I'd like you to let us know the moment you think you can start taking deposits- I understand, probably not until a month or so before a confirmed delivery but I'd like to know...

[C4IGrant]

Grant- since these are 1 year or more out, can we make this pre-order list work differently than the P-mag one in that we won't have to remember to come back and look at the thread? :p

Seriously, are you making a real list and I'd like you to let us know the moment you think you can start taking deposits- I understand, probably not until a month or so before a confirmed delivery but I'd like to know...


I will most likely contact each person on this list as they start to come out to get a deposit.

I would also suggest turning on "thread subscription" so that you don't miss updates/news. This is the best and easiest way for me to contact many people at once.



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[Templar]

Put me down on the list as well please.

[Razoreye]

I'm tentatively adding my name to this list. I'd love to have this and at over a year out, I may just be able to save up enough money for this. :) Railed FDE looks good...

[Army Chief]

Saving my pennies as well.

Chief

[FlyAndFight]

I'll tentatively join the list as well. Hopefully my "keep the change" program with Bank of America will help finance this one... ;)

Thanks.

[Crash]

Well, it appears that I'm way late for the game, but put me down for 2.

[Colt6920]

Put me down for one. FDE

[snacks]

i wonder if i would be able to get this in california?

[GunLovinTexan]

Hate to break your heart snacks but NO. Magazines will be a problem as well as the pistol grip on the reaciver.

Correct me if im wrong.

[SuicideHz]

No, the fact that it can merely accept high capacity mags puts it on the "bad" list.

[Nra-Life-Member]

I am interested.

When you know the details, please email me proam@dejazzd.com

Thanks.

[snacks]

i know that it would not be possible. I was just hoping it might be a possibility. The way things are in california by the time the Masada comes out we may have been very well stripped of our gun rights.:D

[fivepointoh]

Well here's to hopin....on TOS this was posted by Magpul which means even if they make it in by the 2nd or 3rd quarter and release late we'll still be GTG!

Originally Posted By 7KOPPER:
You’re misinterpreting information we have provided. Seven months ago the lower was just an idea. Don't judge the Masada productivity based on our other projects.

BTW, off for more live fire tests of the Masada tomorrow. See you first quarter of 08’. I'll do what I can to get some vid of the "vaporware" in action for you Ridley.

[DrDrake]

As promised on TOS, enjoy.

http://www.magpul.com/movie/masada2.wmv

Well here's to hopin....on TOS this was posted by Magpul which means even if they make it in by the 2nd or 3rd quarter and release late we'll still be GTG!

Originally Posted By 7KOPPER:
You’re misinterpreting information we have provided. Seven months ago the lower was just an idea. Don't judge the Masada productivity based on our other projects.

BTW, off for more live fire tests of the Masada tomorrow. See you first quarter of 08’. I'll do what I can to get some vid of the "vaporware" in action for you Ridley.

[SuicideHz]

Why the Eotech on a LaRue? I'm really hoping we won't need LaRue mounts or any sort of risers for an Eotech- at least I thought we wouldn't have to because of how much lower the stock is (sort of.) That combined with the cheek rest made me think the rail would be closer to our natural height for an optic...

[LOKNLOD]

Why the Eotech on a LaRue? I'm really hoping we won't need LaRue mounts or any sort of risers for an Eotech- at least I thought we wouldn't have to because of how much lower the stock is (sort of.) That combined with the cheek rest made me think the rail would be closer to our natural height for an optic...

Perhaps they just wanted it to be quick-detach with return zero? Would be handy on prototype that might be getting lots of varying testing.

7KOPPER,
Thanks for the vid. Glad to see the project progressing.

[DrDrake]

LOKNLOD is exactly correct. Our optics get bounced around. There is no need for the riser excluding zero repeat and QD. The Masada rail height is close to an AR.

Why the Eotech on a LaRue? I'm really hoping we won't need LaRue mounts or any sort of risers for an Eotech- at least I thought we wouldn't have to because of how much lower the stock is (sort of.) That combined with the cheek rest made me think the rail would be closer to our natural height for an optic...

[C4IGrant]

Thanks for the VID!



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[RyanS]

I've done a lot a lot of hemming and hawing in my time....but I know that I want a Masada.

Put me in for 1, FDE, 16".

[Gibbles]

I want one!
Black, 5.56, and 16in :cool:


Thanks!

[soowah]

Cool, put me down for 1 definitely, maybe 2. Thanks.

Just let me know when you need a deposit.

[BMMC]

I'm in for one

[GastonG-NoVa]

Add me on to the big list

[RHR]

I want one.

[GYates]

Put me on the list too. I'm not going to miss out on this.

[lionhart]

I'm in for one Bushmaster ACR standard carbine in BLACK. It would be great if I can get one of those with a folder, but if not, that's fine too. But I would prefer the folder on the standard carbine model.

[gotm4]

I want a 12.5" Masada! :)

[UPSguy]

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered. Is this going to be available to the little people?

[gotm4]

Forgive me if this has already been asked and answered. Is this going to be available to the little people?

I recall Magpul saying it would be available to LE/Gov't first and then civilians.

[steve0]

Please count me in.

[Seth Harness]

Grant, is there going to be a 16" permanently attached flash hider version for us in Illinois?

[C4IGrant]

Grant, is there going to be a 16" permanently attached flash hider version for us in Illinois?


I doubt that Magpul will offer any such options, but you can perm. attach whatever you want.



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[SigFanWA]

Ill jump in as well - head first!

[welchtactical]

Willing to sell Kidney. Black, railed version, 16in.

[UBOATSNSR]

I'm in for one 16" FLAT DARK EARTH MASADA!!! :D Thanks.



P.S...MAGPUL, besides the usual calibers (5.56mm, .308, 7.62x39, etc.) please make the Masada in 5.45x39 and also .22LR, ammo's crazy expensive these days.

[The Archangel]

Please put me down for one Dark Earth 10.5" SBR. I'll sell welchtactical's kidney too. http://www.m4carbine.net/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[SIMPLYDYNAMIC]

WHY WOULD YOU WANT ONE OF THESE?????????????



































WHEN YOU CAN GET TWO!

[RHR]

Grant,

Do you know if the Masada will be available as a factory SBR?

[Glockster35]

Put me down as interested, final pricing vs. options will be the determining factor.

BYW, I am looking for one with these options for now: 16", Sage Green, OD, FDE in that order! More as we get word of specific options!

[Gunfighter13]

16" FDE for me Please.

[thmpr]

Grant,
I will take one in FDE. You should have all my info from the Magpul lower list.


Thanks!

[RogerinTPA]

cancel pre-order.

[SuicideHz]

Put me down as interested, final pricing vs. options will be the determining factor.

BYW, I am looking for one with these options for now: 16", Sage Green, OD, FDE in that order! More as we get word of specific options!

That first color is called foliage green and i don't think it's being offered. If it was I think it would be a great color for me considering my area...:)

I change my black to FDE.

[Sweep]

1 fde 16 inch please thou i would perfer a sbr version if there is such a critter

[SuicideHz]

Yes, it would be nice to have a factory SBR- no engraving...

[shooter521]

16", 5.56, FDE, short no-rail HG for me please.

My CC company is gonna love me. Wife might not! :D


ETA - Grant, do you need any additional information from us at this time, or just our place-holder here?

[akaindy]

I'm in. Put me on the list for

16", 5.56, FDE, Short no-rail HG or a Railed HG depending on what is availible first.

My wife my kill me but I'll just have to finish selling my stoner 63 parts collection before the Masada is ready.

Let me know when you need additional info.

One question though. On the FDE is this going to be a paint coating over black anodize or will this be a coating right onto the aluminum reciever?

[TigerStripe]

Intend to buy 16" FDE. Uh.. Coyote...



TS

[utahcybercowboy]

I am in for one!

[whitey529]

PM and Email sent. Thanks GRTactical for replying so fast.

[mactastic]

I definitely will be buying one. which one don't know yet.

[river road 11]

I will take one.FDF. Thanks

[Quartersticknick]

Grant I'm Def. in for one.Please add me to the list! thanks.

[SHIVAN]

I'm in for whatever their shortest barrel option is in 5.56. Tan, Green or Black does not matter.

[stinkyDrunk]

1 FDE 16"

[dialM4murder]

Did I miss something? Will these be shipping soon or something?

[IrishDevil]

I'll take one in any color but black, ok maybe black.:D

[bottomtime]

I have sent a email re: ording/ payment info on the Magpul Masada Pre-Order List
A50BMG4ME@aol.com

[recon]

Since there suppose to come out out in the spring-08 might as well put me down for one.

[SuicideHz]

Spring? First quarter or Spring? To me Spring is March but Q1 is January after Shot. I can wait 'til January.

[decodeddiesel]

wow, talk about a sweet birthday present to myself (March 21st) if only they can be out by spring.

+1 16in FDE.

[JoshNC]

I am in for two, both in FDE, and likely a third in black.

[Charlie]

One please, thanks. Looking for a 18" 6.8 whenever possible.

[chadkok]

Please put me down for one FDE, railed model with the 16" barrel.

Thanks.

[elkman]

Add me to the Masada list.

Hopefully Spring of 2008.

[RyanS]

Grant,

I asked to be put down for a 16" barrel, but will that even be an option?

[punkkin]

I'm all over a 16". :D

[Leviathan]

Grant,

Please add me to your pre-order list.

Thanks

[variablebinary]

Any updates on timeframe?

[SuicideHz]

If you want an update, head to magpul.com and look for "contact us."

Fill out an email form.

Drake has set up an auto reply with an answer to many questions. I said I wouldn't take any answers and post them but since it's an auto response, here it is:

Thank you for contacting Magpul about the Masada. Due to a high number of emails Magpul receives on a daily basis about the Masada we have created this auto reply to better answer your questions. Please read the info provided



Release of the Masada is expected to be in mid 2008. There will be a semi auto civilian version for sale. The Masada will be released in 5.56 with other calibers to follow with those dates to be determined. We’re shooting for a retail price of $1400. We have not made any distribution plans and there is no “waiting list” as of November 2008. We will announce T&E info as it becomes available. Military and LE personnel inquires that require more detail please contact us directly at 303 828 3460.



Listed below are links with information on the Masada.



Information links



http://www.magpul.com/pdfs/masada_technote.pdf



http://www.magpul.com/pdfs/masadafront.pdf



http://www.magpul.com/pdfs/masadaback.pdf



Video links



http://youtube.com/watch?v=MTnlNyhuO_U



http://youtube.com/watch?v=t2yWoMZIOCE



http://youtube.com/watch?v=e8u1OTfJS5U



National Firearms Act (NFA) Configuration Questions (Machineguns, Short-Barreled Rifles):



Masada™: Will the Masada be made in a select-fire version?

Yes. The select-fire Masada™ features a proprietary auto-sear that is not compatible with the standard M16. The fire selector has a standard 90 degree throw to the semi-auto position identical to the M16. The fully-automatic position is accessed with a further 30 degrees of travel. This combination ensures a good combination of safety and the ability to access fully-automatic firepower when necessary.



Masada™: Can I buy a select-fire (full-auto) Masada™?

The select-fire Masada™ is available ONLY to qualified buyers. The select-fire Masada™ is classified as a “machine-gun” under the National Firearms Act (26 USC 5845 (b)). As such it is subject to NFA transfer and possession regulations (27 CFR 479).



Masada™: Is there a transferrable, select-fire (full-auto) Masada™ available for civilians?

No. The Masada™ is a completely new weapon platform and was not produced prior to May 19, 1986. The select-fire Masada™ is considered a “post-86 dealer sample” and is only available to military, law-enforcement and qualified dealers.



Masada™: Are short-barreled (< 16” barrel length) Masada™ rifles available for civilians?

Short-barreled versions of the Masada™ are available ONLY to qualified buyers. The short-barreled Masada™ is classified as a “short-barreled rifle” (18 USC 921). As such it is subject to NFA transfer and possession regulations (27 CFR 479).



Masada™: Can the Masada accept a 3-Round Burst Mechanism?

An optional three-round burst mechanism is tentatively planned for the Masada. This may or may not require the use of proprietary parts and will ONLY be made available to military, law enforcement and qualified dealers in accordance with NFA transfer and possession regulations (27 CFR 479).





Additional Information Resources:



Masada™: Where can I see videos of the Masada™?



Milspec Monkey – Masada™ Introduction at Shot Shot 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaYOI1waCYI



Masada™ Initial Prototype Test Firing – Jan 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_lWZzO8rM



Masada™ Test Shoot – May 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SlWXdoT5QM



Masada™ Full Auto Function Test – 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTnlNyhuO_U&NR=1



Masada™ 60-Round Full Auto Test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8u1OTfJS5U



Masada™ Break Down (Field Strip)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2yWoMZIOCE



Masada™ Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter II Video Game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NGH4pwzSS0





Masada™: Where can I read about the Masada™?



• Soldier of Fortune Oct 2007 THE MASADA FROM MAGPUL – Gary Paul Johnson



• Guns & Ammo 2008 Annual Buyers Guide MAGPUL’S MASADA: AT LAST A COMBAT RIFLE DONE RIGHT – Patrick Sweeney pg 14

[DrDrake]

It's all good Bro. Not a problem.

[ZGXtreme]

I am down for one now in lieu of building upon a MagPul lower.

- 16" in Black, open to FDE or OD if black not available.

Thanks Bro.

[xm15e2sGreenBay]

Glad I found this , Please put me down for ( 1 ) Magpul Masada, In OD Green, the 16" version with the 3 way railed forend .

Thank you, Please contact me with payment info when your about to place the orders with Magpul.

[PetesTactical]

Please put me down for 1 FDE Railed, .556 with no barrel. If I have to take a barrel then 16". Thanks.

[SuicideHz]

I'm seeing a lot of people asking for a lot of options that I've never seen listed.

AFAIK, the forend has threaded inserts for attaching the rail portions that it will come with.

Also, they will be sold as complete rifles.

[xm15e2sGreenBay]

HI, According to the guys at Magpul, these will be offered in a range of colors, ( Black, Tan, Foliage Green, OD Green, Dark earth ), with a multitude of Barrel lenghts ( 11.5, 14.5,16,18 & 20 inch ) please correct me if I am incorect:D

[SuicideHz]

I know eventually but probably not in the initual run, which is what I thought this list was serving as- a first come, first served for the initial batch Grant gets in.

[xm15e2sGreenBay]

Greetings, Well, I can appreciate this very much, but if I am going to spend $ 1400.00 plus dollars on a rifle, I kinda want the color & barrel length of my choosing. I am pretty sure by the time these new rifles are ready for sale in june, july, aug, the various colors & barrel lengths should be available & if you can order me one I would be very appreciative.... If not then I will wait.

Thanks ! and Merry Christmas :)

[SuicideHz]

I'm just guessing that we all have two options- get there first and get what we can or wait a little while and get what we want.

In the end, I hope everyone is happy with what they get.

They will probably all be 16" right away- there auto response told me SBRs will be available to designated individuals. They are probably going to make most attainable to most people to start. I had asked some of these questions in my email but they weren't all addressed.

[C4IGrant]

Like any good company, Magpul is going to build the weapon that allows them to fill the most orders. This of course would be a 16" weapon in black.

I would like to believe that they will do OD, FDE and Black with different barrel lengths at the same time, but this just isn't realistic IMHO.


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[SuicideHz]

I wanted FDE and an SBR but when I realized that would just take sooo much longer I decided I'd be happy with a 16" black.

Shorter barrels will be available later. No sense in delaying a transfer to me by a month or more just for an SBR now.

[GastonG-NoVa]

Put me down for 1-2 depending on price!!

[xm15e2sGreenBay]

on second thought, put me down for a Black 16" Masada..... I can always OD green it with a can of Camo paint.

Thanks !:D

[thorn]

I'm out.

[stormblue]

Put me down for 1.

[Elkhound]

Sounds like a good use for a tax refund! I'm on the list.

[RyanS]

Like any good company, Magpul is going to build the weapon that allows them to fill the most orders. This of course would be a 16" weapon in black.

I would like to believe that they will do OD, FDE and Black with different barrel lengths at the same time, but this just isn't realistic IMHO.


C4

In that case, I'd take black instead of FDE if it means getting one sooner than later.

[kalikraven]

I'm interested in one in FDE. SBR if possible.

[mk23]

Put me down for TWO Black 16" Masadas

Thanks!

[SuicideHz]

Well shit, put me down for another two! ;)

[Dragonfire]

Put me down for one. Any color but must be 16" or 14.5" pinned, whatever they come up with. I also emailed you through your website.

Josh Howell for name cross reference through email. Thanks. Please send Email or PM verification of being on the list. Thanks

[SuicideHz]

You'll be happy to hear that the first batch will be 16". Magpul, IMHO won't do anything as silly as pin a FH on but you can supposedly use any AR barrel so the rest is up to you!

And, a 14.5" pinned FH isn't as important on one of these as it is on an M4 clone so you'll be happy with a 16" as will I.

[Dragonfire]

You'll be happy to hear that the first batch will be 16". Magpul, IMHO won't do anything as silly as pin a FH on but you can supposedly use any AR barrel so the rest is up to you!

And, a 14.5" pinned FH isn't as important on one of these as it is on an M4 clone so you'll be happy with a 16" as will I.

Sounds good to me. I just hope I found this list in time to get one of the earlier ones :)

[Nimslow]

I'm in for one. FDE 10.5"

[GDITheman]

I'm in for 1, please.

[sully0812]

I'm in for at least 1.

If the various colors and configurations are all available from the start, then I will be in for a second.

[doug1193]

Put me down for one please.
Thanks

[Tzoid]

Please add me to the list..

:D

[sstone86]

Please put me down for 1 any color 16"

[tire iron]

I'm in for a Flat Dark Earth *or* Foliage Green Masada with 16" barrel.

cheers

tire iron

[sterling99]

Please add me to the list......

[Kalash]

NEVERMIND.

[tinman44]

DELETED

[Rich N.]

Add me to the list, please.

[okcowboy2]

please put me on the list to

[VLODPG]

Please add me to the list!

[ryanvt01]

Please add me to the list. Thanks.

[tanlegsintx]

Please add me to the list. Thanks.

[ARin]

im in for a carbine version.

[river road 11]

Please add me to the list, thanks.

[ABdriver]

Grant,
Please add me to the list as well. 16" FDE if I can be picky. Whatever is available if not. Thanks

[dbldragons]

hells yes! Add me as well FDE 7.62 if possible (and 5.56 parts too) Got a good tax return just waitin for this!!!!

[SuicideHz]

Most likely black 5.56 in JUNE. Everything else to follow and no ETA on those...

FYI.

[FlyAndFight]

Most likely black 5.56 in JUNE. Everything else to follow and no ETA on those...

FYI.

That's good news. At least there's a tentative date to look forward to.

[SuicideHz]

I take that back actually.

[Dragonfire]

Is this list still valid since the rifle is now going to be a Bushmaster? Let us know Grant, and if it is I would like to make sure the spot I reserved several pages back on the list is for the "entry" model. Thanks

[Tzoid]

http://homelandsecurityleader.com/ho...vanced-weapon/

From Bushmaster Release

Bushmaster Firearms International, LLC (BFI) announced today that it has signed an exclusive license deal with Magpul Industries Corp. for the production, future development, and sales of Magpul’s prototype MASADA weapon system.

The Bushmaster ACR (Adaptive Combat Rifle) will initially be offered in 5.56 NATO, available for law enforcement and civilian purchase second quarter 2008. This release will be followed by military ACR versions in the 3rd quarter of 2008.

Without government funding or outside influence of any kind, the Masada concept was developed from scratch in Boulder, Colorado by Magpul’s Design Group. The Masada concept was first shown publicly at the 2007 Shot Show and its success prompted Magpul to spend a year redesigning the system for production.

The result is the ACR (Adaptive Combat Rifle) which keeps the fundamentals of the Masada concept with added advanced features such as firing pin block and true ambidextrous charging handle.

Among the ACR’s key features are a gas piston operating system, tool-less quick change barrel, multi-adjustable folding stock with integrated storage, and backward compatibility with a number of AR15/M16 parts. Due to similar operating controls, user transition from the M16 series of weapons is easily facilitated with minimal re-training.

The Bushmaster ACR will initially be available in 3 SKUS: Standard Carbine with fixed stock, Entry Carbine with folding stock, and Special Purpose Rifle with Precision Rifle Stock. Live fire demonstration and test and evaluations beginning in the end of March to qualified law enforcement, federal government agencies.

[ZGXtreme]

I am bowing out of the list, thanks Grant.

[SuicideHz]

Is this list still valid since the rifle is now going to be a Bushmaster? Let us know Grant. Thanks

Reread his post. He may not want to sell them.

If anything, add a stock preference to your request. I am hoping Grant can make this work.

[C4IGrant]

Is this list still valid since the rifle is now going to be a Bushmaster? Let us know Grant, and if it is I would like to make sure the spot I reserved several pages back on the list is for the "entry" model. Thanks


I actually have ZERO idea what we are going to do at this point. SS will tell us a lot more.

C4

[Gibbles]

:(

I may have to pass too.
I hope magpul got a fortune for it...

[SuicideHz]

I actually have ZERO idea what we are going to do at this point. SS will tell us a lot more.

C4

I sure would appreciate it if you could do what you can to pick up 50 or so to help some of us on the list.

I understand the potential profit isn't there but I'd be willing to pay you more than I'd pay the local guy if thou could assure us an early rifle.

I would like to change my preference to folding stock and first color avail.


Thanks.

ETA: I'm now in for the 12.5" entry model.

[heston911]

http://homelandsecurityleader.com/ho...vanced-weapon/

From Bushmaster Release

Bushmaster Firearms International, LLC (BFI) announced today that it has signed an exclusive license deal with Magpul Industries Corp. for the production, future development, and sales of Magpul’s prototype MASADA weapon system.

The Bushmaster ACR (Adaptive Combat Rifle) will initially be offered in 5.56 NATO, available for law enforcement and civilian purchase second quarter 2008. This release will be followed by military ACR versions in the 3rd quarter of 2008.

Without government funding or outside influence of any kind, the Masada concept was developed from scratch in Boulder, Colorado by Magpul’s Design Group. The Masada concept was first shown publicly at the 2007 Shot Show and its success prompted Magpul to spend a year redesigning the system for production.

The result is the ACR (Adaptive Combat Rifle) which keeps the fundamentals of the Masada concept with added advanced features such as firing pin block and true ambidextrous charging handle.

Among the ACR’s key features are a gas piston operating system, tool-less quick change barrel, multi-adjustable folding stock with integrated storage, and backward compatibility with a number of AR15/M16 parts. Due to similar operating controls, user transition from the M16 series of weapons is easily facilitated with minimal re-training.

The Bushmaster ACR will initially be available in 3 SKUS: Standard Carbine with fixed stock, Entry Carbine with folding stock, and Special Purpose Rifle with Precision Rifle Stock. Live fire demonstration and test and evaluations beginning in the end of March to qualified law enforcement, federal government agencies.

I sure hope Bushmaster doesn't f**k this up!

[Kalash]

DELETED

[ARin]

Im going to cancel my spot. thanks grant.

[SuicideHz]

Let's not get shitty.

It's going to be what you wanted all along.
I'm happier now to know that I can get a 12.5" version like I wanted.

[SuicideHz]

Why was that article reposted here?

This is for ordering not whining.

Dropping out because BM is involved is stupid. That would be like not buying an RRA because they used a Wilson barrel.

Read magpul's statements and your faith should be restored. You obviously haven't read anything of value.

[C4IGrant]

I sure would appreciate it if you could do what you can to pick up 50 or so to help some of us on the list.

I understand the potential profit isn't there but I'd be willing to pay you more than I'd pay the local guy if thou could assure us an early rifle.

I would like to change my preference to folding stock and first color avail.


Thanks.

ETA: I'm now in for the 12.5" entry model.

We may or may not stock them as I have no real vehicle to order ANY BM products other than going through a Distr. of their's (like everyone else does). So the chances of me being able to order 50 or so at a time is just about nill I think.

I cannot assure anyone about anything at this point. We should know a lot more after shot.


C4

[C4IGrant]

Grant,
Please delete me from this MASADA/ACR list.:(

If do not want to be on the list, please just go back and delete your post.


C4

[lionhart]

Keep me on the list (I'm on page FOUR)

I'm in for one Bushmaster ACR standard carbine in BLACK. It would be great if I can get one of those with a folder, but if not, that's fine too. But I would prefer the folder on the standard carbine model.

[Gibbles]

I'll stay on the list for now, I want to see how this turns out, I guess this was just to far over magpul’s head for now? Or maybe they got offered a good deal of money for the design...

There is a guy here in town I went to high school with, his father owned a very popular chain of grocery stores, his father sold out and made a fortune and gave his son some money to invest in a business, Gold’s gym bought him out and he went and opened up a bigger and better gym...
I hope Magpul has the same idea, I'm a big fan of their products and the company.

[dbldragons]

Im staying especially till we know more!

[Glockster35]

I'm still in if you can pull this off! Bushmaster name on it or not, it is one hell of a rifle!

[jimtc]

Saw the wealth of good info here along with the experience of the crowd, and decided to join! I'm just a rookie, but would like a Bushmaster ACR.

Grant, if you plan on getting any, could you put me on the list?
I'd prefer a railed 18" over the 16", but either would do.

Also, FDE or black.

Thanks! Good luck!

Jim

[rain252]

I'd like to get on the list for a black, 16" carbine with the folding stock.
Thanks

[GIFFMANN]

I'd be in for a 16" with foldable stock in FDE.

Thanks!
Giff

[The_Katar]

Put me down for a Bushmaster/MagPul ACR. We'll sort out the details when they become available...

[fivepointoh]

I'm still in.

If I'm in IL I'll still take a 16"

If I'm in Indiana by that time I'll take an SBR'd version or whatever you can get your hands on, Grant.

[The Archangel]

10.5" FDE please.

[Tao]

I'm in, let me know where to send the deposit.

Preferably a 16" folder in FDE, but wouldn't be disappointed with a fixed stock and black furniture.

[andrew10736]

16" Black folding stock if this pans out ....

[LonghunterCO]

16" with folder in FG, if not then OD, if not then FDE. Let me know when to send the deposit. Got the last of the money together this week after a year of saving!

[zuk881]

Please put me on list for a 16"

[thetallengineer]

Mark me down for a 16" please.

[Big_A]

I'm down for one, BLK 16" w/folding stock :)

[fdawg]

2 of them 16in folding stock in FDE please

[LonghunterCO]

Any word from your Bushmaster rep? Are they still on track for pricing mid-May with weapons June-July?

[matt7184]

Is it Q109 yet? :(

If you are still doing the preorders, put me down for 1 with a folding stock.

[msstate56]

Email sent. 16" in black w/ fixed stock. Would rather have it in foliage green with a folding stock though.

[BushmasterSOH]

I'm in for one!
email sent

[N.Franklin]

One 16" FDE folding stock model please.:cool:

[MasterAtArms]

I will def. take a black 16" with a folder

[LonghunterCO]

"Military and LE.

Thank You....


Harvey Macomber
Customer Service
Bushmaster Firearms International, LLC
Office: 1-800-883-6229 ext.286
Fax: 207-892-8068"

Grant I sent an email out to Bushmaster asking what "selest customers" they were refering to in their lastest statement releasted on the ACR and this was their reply. I am interested to know is Bushmaster like some companies (read this as Remington) where this model is for police sales only but you can find it for sale to civies in shops or gun shows?
-Just wondering if, as a Bushmaster dealer, if you know that?

[C4IGrant]

"Military and LE.

Thank You....


Harvey Macomber
Customer Service
Bushmaster Firearms International, LLC
Office: 1-800-883-6229 ext.286
Fax: 207-892-8068"

Grant I sent an email out to Bushmaster asking what "selest customers" they were refering to in their lastest statement releasted on the ACR and this was their reply. I am interested to know is Bushmaster like some companies (read this as Remington) where this model is for police sales only but you can find it for sale to civies in shops or gun shows?
-Just wondering if, as a Bushmaster dealer, if you know that?


I currently know next to nothing about what BM is doing. :mad:


C4

[LonghunterCO]

I currently know next to nothing about what BM is doing. :mad:


C4

Well thanks anyway. This is real fustrating. I felt that the first anouncement for Civies first followed up with LE sales was a sign that Bushmaster/Magpul was commited to this as a civiy product (unlike Colt and HK) first and foremost. Then Magpul posted on another site (TOS) that "bushmaster, as a company, has always had a committment to LE/military first ". Then Bushmaster releasted this "Thank you for your interest...ACR will be available to select parties in 2009". That is when I emailed them and got this LE/Military=select parties.
Just fustrated.

[JAW3]

I'd like one, assuming that they are made well enough for you to be comfortable selling them.

[Abiqua]

Please put me on the list. Also sent email.

[N.Franklin]

Well thanks anyway. This is real fustrating. I felt that the first anouncement for Civies first followed up with LE sales was a sign that Bushmaster/Magpul was commited to this as a civiy product (unlike Colt and HK) first and foremost. Then Magpul posted on another site (TOS) that "bushmaster, as a company, has always had a committment to LE/military first ". Then Bushmaster releasted this "Thank you for your interest...ACR will be available to select parties in 2009". That is when I emailed them and got this LE/Military=select parties.
Just fustrated.

At least FN is catering to our interests, too bad their rifles are still going for $4k+ in gunbroker. A year or so back I would have never guessed I would see a SCAR in civy hands before a Masada...

[Army Chief]

True enough. Not to take a swipe at the boys in Boulder, because they did what they had to do to give this thing a realistic chance at production, but it would seem that the intended customer base has been redefined a bit the process. I'm quite sure that MMI always had the intention making the Masada viable for official agency trials and fielding, but my early impression was that they were also very aware of the potential for a renewed AWB, and as such were committed to gettting the Masada into the hands of the people.

Corporate realities being what they are, it would seem that the creators have now been overruled on that last point. I'm pragmatic enough to see the method behind the madness, of course, but I do think it is worth reiterating that official agency procurement of the ACR will always be possible, whereas the prospect of private ownership may be comprised before we ever even get the chance to write our checks. That isn't a criticism, but if may be an unfortunate sign of the times, and no matter how you slice it, we lose. Here's hoping that Remington is able to accommodate a more enlightened distribution policy once the ACR enters full production ... and preferably soon.

AC

[Ring]

im local in ohio to you, i want a FDE, or anything other then black, if you do class 3, ill take a 10.5 SBR folder
but that depends on how close you are to the retail price of 1400$ magpull anounced.

if you cant do SBR's, let me know, i have a another local that can

[SCL]

I'm in for a factory SBR as well - if not available then 16" FDE it is....


SCL

[natdm]

Factory SBR here, interested.

[C4IGrant]

We are no longer taking any pre-orders for the ACR as it does not look like it will be produced any time soon.

Sorry Folks.


C4