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redpoint
02-05-10, 19:18
Hello all,

I have just recently purchase a LWRC REPR and I am in the market for
additional magazines. During my investigation I encountered other REPR
owners who claim to have issues with 20LR magazine. Given the relative
small number of these rifles in the hands of recreational shooters it
would appear that this number is significant.

When I queried MAGPUL they stated that the LWRC REPR was experiencing Bolt-Over failures with the 20LR.

I have also read individuals using a newer version of the CProducts .308 20rd Magazine have had issues as well. This due to feed lip alteration done by CProducts on ther newer mags.

Are you folks able to shed some light regarding the compatibility of the
MAGPUL 20LR/CProducts and the LWRC REPR?

What magazines are people having luck with?

Thanks

--John

nickdrak
02-05-10, 19:34
I dont know if LaRue has made their own manufactured OBR magazines available for sale separately yet. Might be worth a call.

Other than accuracy wise, I havent heard any good reports regarding the LWRCi REPR. Good luck!

dtibbals
02-05-10, 23:28
Other than accuracy wise, I havent heard any good reports regarding the LWRCi REPR. Good luck!

Wow you must not be reading the same things I have been. Yea I have read a few issues with Magpul's new 308 mags but not just with the LWRC. Seems to be a mag issue not a rifle issue. Care to let us know what you have been reading that you haven't heard any good reports about the REPR?

redpoint
02-05-10, 23:34
Wow you must not be reading the same things I have been. Yea I have read a few issues with Magpul's new 308 mags but not just with the LWRC. Seems to be a mag issue not a rifle issue. Care to let us know what you have been reading that you haven't heard any good reports about the REPR?

This how MAGPUL reponded to my query:

John,
Thank you for your inquiry. From all reports the current crop of LWRCI REPR rifles are NOT compatible with the PMAG 20LR due to bolt-over failures. Both the PMAG 20LR and LWRCI REPR were developed independently from each other and, with the wide variety dimensional differences between the various 7.62 NATO ARs, we designed the 20LR specifically for the Knight’s Armament series of guns. To date there has been great success with the PMAG 20LR with other brands such as the DPMS LR308, LMT 7.62 MRP, LaRue Tactical OBR, POF P-308, JP Enterprises LRP-07 and others. From what we understand LWRCI is making some changes to the lower receiver of their newest rifles to work with the 20LR, but at this point in time there is no easy fix for existing guns…



V/R,

JUSTIN BEARD
Customer Service Manager
Magpul Industries Corporation
1.877.4MAGPUL x 118
Email: jbeard@magpul.com

dtibbals
02-05-10, 23:45
Well bottom line is its a mag issue not a gun issue. You can't blame the rifle for not working with a mag that Magpul designed for another rifle. If the rifle performs with the mag it was shipped with than I would say the rifle works just fine. I can see LWRC making changes to work with the Magpul since they are a cheap mag and Magpul has a reputation to work well in AR's. I am a huge Magpul guy but I would not let that stop me from buying a REPR, I would just buy other mags that work.

redpoint
02-05-10, 23:51
Well bottom line is its a mag issue not a gun issue. You can't blame the rifle for not working with a mag that Magpul designed for another rifle. If the rifle performs with the mag it was shipped with than I would say the rifle works just fine. I can see LWRC making changes to work with the Magpul since they are a cheap mag and Magpul has a reputation to work well in AR's. I am a huge Magpul guy but I would not let that stop me from buying a REPR, I would just buy other mags that work.

I am attempting to determine what that other mag is. The mag LWRC delivers with the gun is a CProduct. Everything was good until CProduct altered the mag design rendering problematic. This is comming from the LWRC tech folks.

Do not get me wrong, I am only looking for a solution to a problem.

Who's mag can I purchase which will work reliable with the REPR I have purchased.

dtibbals
02-06-10, 00:16
I can understand your looking for a solution. I am purchasing an 18" so I am going to have to contact LWRC and see what they say. I would suggest you contact LWRC and put it in their hands to solve the issue. There is no reason you should not be able to purchase a mag from them that does not work...if their vendor changed something and it doesn't work than that is a huge problem.

KevinB
02-06-10, 21:28
Well bottom line is its a mag issue not a gun issue. You can't blame the rifle for not working with a mag that Magpul designed for another rifle. If the rifle performs with the mag it was shipped with than I would say the rifle works just fine. I can see LWRC making changes to work with the Magpul since they are a cheap mag and Magpul has a reputation to work well in AR's. I am a huge Magpul guy but I would not let that stop me from buying a REPR, I would just buy other mags that work.

Its a gun issue, LWRCI claimed SR-25 Mag comptibility - and the PMAG-LR is a SR-25 compatible mag.

End Story.

GlockWRX
02-06-10, 22:04
Its a gun issue, LWRCI claimed SR-25 Mag comptibility - and the PMAG-LR is a SR-25 compatible mag.

End Story.

Unfortunately, I believe that's true. (I say unfortunately only because I have a REPR on order, hopefully this will be straightened out before I take delivery).

The REPR was advertised as SR-25 mag compaitible. That means it should work with the Magpul LR and the C Products mag, which are both made to work in the SR-25 guns. And they both work in SR-25 pattern weapons to include LMT, KAC, LaRue, POF, etc.

I'm a big fan of LWRC. The excellent experience I've had with my M6A2 convinced me to buy the REPR. But it's clear to me something got missed during it's development. I hope it is fixed soon as I believe the REPR has a lot of potential.

redpoint
02-06-10, 22:12
Unfortunately, I believe that's true. (I say unfortunately only because I have a REPR on order, hopefully this will be straightened out before I take delivery).

The REPR was advertised as SR-25 mag compaitible. That means it should work with the Magpul LR and the C Products mag, which are both made to work in the SR-25 guns. And they both work in SR-25 pattern weapons to include LMT, KAC, LaRue, POF, etc.

I'm a big fan of LWRC. The excellent experience I've had with my M6A2 convinced me to buy the REPR. But it's clear to me something got missed during it's development. I hope it is fixed soon as I believe the REPR has a lot of potential.

I have been in contact with LWRC and have asked how this will be resolved only to get a sympathetic run-around.

Many of folks have jumped on the REPR. I hope LWRC make good on this issue.

GlockWRX
02-06-10, 22:14
I believe they will. But only time will tell.

nickdrak
02-06-10, 22:30
Wow you must not be reading the same things I have been. Yea I have read a few issues with Magpul's new 308 mags but not just with the LWRC. Seems to be a mag issue not a rifle issue. Care to let us know what you have been reading that you haven't heard any good reports about the REPR?

I have read about a few REPR owners who needed to send theirs back to LWRC due to feeding issues. Most of the issues seem to revolve around magazine compatibility, including the mags that they shipped with the REPR's as oem mags.

If the REPR was designed as a SR25 pattern rifle, but it does not function reliably with SR25 pattern mags that function reliably in the other SR25 pattern rifles in the same target market (KAC, LaRue OBR, LMT), then logic tells me that it is an issue with the gun, not the mags.

redpoint
02-06-10, 22:35
I have read about a few REPR owners who needed to send theirs back to LWRC due to feeding issues. Most of the issues seem to revolve around magazine compatibility, including the mags that they shipped with the REPR's as oem mags.

If the REPR was designed as a SR25 pattern rifle, but it does not function reliably with SR25 pattern mags that function reliably in the other SR25 pattern rifles in the same target market (KAC, LaRue OBR, LMT), then logic tells me that it is an issue with the gun, not the mags.

I would tend concur. It does appear to be a rifle problem.

dmancornell
02-07-10, 00:59
I have one on pre-order, new production in FDE. I'll call LWRC on Monday and ask if this problem is solved on new orders.

nickdrak
02-07-10, 04:40
I have been in contact with LWRC and have asked how this will be resolved only to get a sympathetic run-around.

Many of folks have jumped on the REPR. I hope LWRC make good on this issue.

John,

It is a little unclear from your initial post, are you having issues with your REPR? And if so, could you tell us exactly what issue you are experiencing?

I truly hope that all of the bugs get worked out of the REPR by the time I am finally in the market for a precision .308 AR.

nickdrak
02-07-10, 13:34
yea all you guys have too do is spend 5,000.00 plus and get a KAC and your mag issue is corrected, if you can find one?

One of the other options is to buy the mystical unicorn magazines that feed reliably in the REPR.

I don't think Kevin was trying to pitch the SR25 with his post, but merely pointing out the fact that the REPR is not compatible with the mags it was designed to function with.

redpoint
02-11-10, 15:15
Post 02-09-2010

http://forum.lwrci.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6205

LongRider
02-14-10, 23:57
Considering the extraordinary long wait and price of this weapon I'd expect and demand that it work as advertised. I'd send the rifle back and demand they fix it.