View Full Version : L-3 EOTech Releases 552.D1
L-3 EOTech is now selling the popular 552 sight with a single dot reticle. The order code for this product is the 552.D1, and there will be no change in cost between the 552.A65 or the 552.D1.
If you have any questions regarding it, please contact the factory. Otherwise, ask your local dealer about availability!
Thanks everyone!
What will the dot size be?
Opps will call the factory
I think the dot size is going to be 1 MOA and should be out in August.
C4
BravoCompanyUSA
07-26-06, 10:21
My understanding as well.
That is correct. 1 MOA dot. We are building as I type. They will be available tomorrow.
Wow, my hats off the Eotech. This is a great idea. While I personally like the current Eotech reticule, this model should be enough to lure over the last of the Aimpoint "One Dot" hold outs.
I'm sure this will be hot seller.
Been waiting for one of these. I am one of the Aimpoint hold outs. Hope it is good to go. We use the current 552's on our swat rifles and the reticle is really busy on long distance shots. I'd rather have the single dot.
i think that it will be a hot seller and get some of aimpoint's business for the guys who like just the dot and a small one at that.
eotech has great customer service. a quality co. dennis is a pleasure to deal with.
it might have sold even better with the cr123 batteries...
Cool. I've been wanting one of these for years!
As an Avid Aimpoint guy I don't see it as being a huge thing. The battery life is still the same with or without the 65M circle. Now if they would have created a Chevron reticle..... that would be interesting. and the CR123 batt's would be nice as well.
baffle Stack
07-30-06, 19:57
Glad to here it. The 65 moa reticle + a bunch of astigmatism = a blob for a reticle, prety much useless, and why i have an aimpont. I loved my EOtech with glasses though.
When you turn the site up on a high setting, do you get a halo effect, making the dot look larger then 1moa?
Glad to here it. The 65 moa reticle + a bunch of astigmatism = a blob for a reticle, prety much useless, and why i have an aimpont. I loved my EOtech with glasses though.
When you turn the site up on a high setting, do you get a halo effect, making the dot look larger then 1moa?
If you turn the brightness up higher than is needed based on the ambient lighting conditions you're using the sight in- yes, it has the potential to look bigger than 1 MOA. For example- if you are inside a room lit with flourescent lighting, the sight does not need to be turned up past, say 12, depending on the conditions. If you turn it up to 20, it could cause the halo effect or larger than normal appearance of the dot, but then the sight doesn't need to be that high in order to function. You'd effectively be obscuring the target. Its basically a matter of, could it happen? Yes. Would you ever use the sight in those conditions that would cause it to happen? No. The sight is designed to be visible in the brightest of conditions (near direct sunlight).
As an Avid Aimpoint guy I don't see it as being a huge thing. The battery life is still the same with or without the 65M circle. Now if they would have created a Chevron reticle..... that would be interesting. and the CR123 batt's would be nice as well.
The battery life is the same (its tough to beat 10,000 hours), but how about the larger field of view, no obstruction from lens caps, no need for anti-reflective cap, no additional mount (ring) needed, no dipvergence (eye fatigue), and of course the accuracy of a 1 MOA dot. If you use AA Lithium, you'll get 1100 hours. AA batteries are cheap and available in nearly every hole in the wall in the world. Just some thoughts, but I am obviously biased.
I'm surprised, though, as an avid Aimpoint guy that you'd be interested in a chevron reticle. I am genuinely curious about why(unlike Aimpoint, we can do those kind of things with holography, another limitation of their technology). I'd like to hear your thoughts on it if you have a chance to repsond- i.e. why you think that's better than a single dot, or our circle dot, etc.
I appreciate your time and insight on this.
Thanks,
I just got five of these in! Very nice and will appeal to the Aimpoint fans for sure.
C4
BravoCompanyUSA
08-01-06, 17:49
I just got five of these in! Very nice and will appeal to the Aimpoint fans for sure.
C4
Got some, and I think they are my new favorate EOTech.
Dennis
The Chevron has always seemed to be (for me) the best of both worlds. For me I like one point of reference for my eye to key on. That's why I always like just a dot. I think the Chevron can be "Just a Dot" at CQB distances, and then be used to get a little more precision out to 300-400 meters. I think the chevron gives a more precise aiming point at distance then a circle dot. Oh Sure, I can hit 12" steel all day at 300m with my 4MOA Dot. But you need to split up the dot by using the top and or bottom end and know your sight picture at distance.
I know others have always liked the 65MOA circle, but the few times I used an EOTech, I found it distracting. Again, reverts back to my need for simplicity in my sight picture. I've used some pretty funky reticles with Choke sights and all kinds of lead and range stadia lines and they can be mastered, but at a cost of time.
Now if you built a Sight with a Chevron and maybe a few 1 MOA dots lined up under neath at ranges out to 500meters or so for 5.56mm
used CR 123 batts
and used an LaRue QD mount
I would have no choice but to buy one....
Harv,
I appreciate the quick feedback. Your points are noted and there are a few of them we are certainly aware of when it comes to user preferences- one in particular being out of our hands.
All ideas are welcome, so keep them coming.
SinnFéinM1911
08-02-06, 08:48
That is correct. 1 MOA dot. We are building as I type. They will be available tomorrow.
If I had a quarter for every time I heard that !! :D
no obstruction from lens caps,
never used them on my aimpoint except for storage i see you guys also have some now good idea
no additional mount (ring) needed,
well that is one bonus, But larue is better as mount choice. for on off and multiply weapons switching(dept etc...) personal choice i guess
no dipvergence (eye fatigue),
Never had it nor guys i know ever complained of it.
and of course the accuracy of a 1 MOA dot.
Nice for long range shooting what about in your face to 50 yds besides window shooting. 2moa from aimpoint.
Just some thoughts, but I am obviously biased.
Dennis No disrespect ment, as iam in your backyard about 15 minutes away to be exact. nas would love to keep my money at home in my state i defend
I would love an eotech again, one with a 4 moa dot would be better and a laure mount.(not getting) into politics here. that not my buisness. just thoughts.
I Had 2 of your sights. sold them both after issue with them. (i know things happen good customer service though) i have seen a few in my classes that have not had issues and those that have those that have were taken care of by you and your crew.
this new sight should fit into a lot of competion shooters bags as wel las hunters
If I had a quarter for every time I heard that !! :D
Hey wise guy. This time you'd be broke. We did build the first run and already shipped them all out. We'll have more in stock mid August.
Oh the dimes I could drop on you, Ha! I'll call you later, Danny Boy.
never used them on my aimpoint except for storage i see you guys also have some now good idea
well that is one bonus, But larue is better as mount choice. for on off and multiply weapons switching(dept etc...) personal choice i guess
no dipvergence (eye fatigue),
Never had it nor guys i know ever complained of it.
Nice for long range shooting what about in your face to 50 yds besides window shooting. 2moa from aimpoint.
Dennis No disrespect ment, as iam in your backyard about 15 minutes away to be exact. nas would love to keep my money at home in my state i defend
I would love an eotech again, one with a 4 moa dot would be better and a laure mount.(not getting) into politics here. that not my buisness. just thoughts.
I Had 2 of your sights. sold them both after issue with them. (i know things happen good customer service though) i have seen a few in my classes that have not had issues and those that have those that have were taken care of by you and your crew.
this new sight should fit into a lot of competion shooters bags as wel las hunters
Steve,
First off, no disrespect taken at all. I have to say that I've never had a consumer go out of their way to call and let me know that they were not trying to be rude in a post (and believe me I understand how written criticism can be interpreted that way; you develop a thick skin in my line of work). I just wanted to say I really appreciate that. Also, I appreciate any criticism at all - its how you get better at what you do (or build). Keep it coming.
The lens covers aren't ours. Those are being developed by GG&G. I think they are releasing them sometime this summer. I saw a prototype at Shot and conceptually they look freaking sweet. The version I saw in an ad looks great. I can't wait to try them out.
Would I like a LaRue QD integrated in my EOTech. Absotively posolutely. We all know the arguements on various forums over this. Maybe someday, but there are powers far higher up the food chain than myself that have affected decisions on these things. I have to deal with the status quo so I run 552's on LaRue risers. solves both problems. I agree with you on this.
We first learned about dipvergence from the military. It resembles the way a straw looks when it is sitting in a glass of water (broken based on the light diffraction). Similar thing with the front lens of an Aimpoint and the peripheral view surrounding it. It moves all verticle and horizontal references off kilter. I don't hear to many complaints about this, but once in a while it surfaces (usually with extended use), so it is a factor to some, not all.
2 MOA and 4 MOA dots. Well, again I can't say for the future, but at this time there's nothing on the drawing board. Of course, these would be simple changes and very possible, but the majority of our consumers want smaller, not larger. I understand in your face at 50 yds, but that is where the ring comes in. Its faster than a 4 moa dot for anything under 50 yards. No time hunting for the dot. Just put the ring on the target and squeeze. I've used the M68 for several years in the Army and you cannot beat the speed of the EOTech. Yes, again, I am now really biased, but I thought that from the second I used one.
Again, Steve, thanks for the input and the call. Stay in touch.
Roger that.
I will be in touch as i have a few questions for you
Thank you for being avaliable
Dennis: Any chance of a 551.D1? Thanks.
Dennis: Any chance of a 551.D1? Thanks.
Ironically, we have 45 of these in stock. They were built a little while ago for a customer who backed out on a deal (they never even shipped). They are, of course, Rev F and are the same cost as a 551.A65.
They're available for sale, and these will likely be the only 50 ever built (we've already sold 5). The order code for them is 551.D1
Let me know if you have any questions.
Dennis: Thanks for the info.
Glockster35
12-12-06, 09:14
Finally EO Tech has made a sight that I am interested in.
I have never understood why they used the 65 MOA reticle anyway.
Dennis, is there a purpose fo rthe 65 MOA reticle at all?
Finally EO Tech has made a sight that I am interested in.
I have never understood why they used the 65 MOA reticle anyway.
Dennis, is there a purpose fo rthe 65 MOA reticle at all?
Targets inside of 50 yards: Put in circle and squeeze. It vewy, vewy fast gwasshopper!
not Dennis, but let me tell yah very fast is correct
in some recent training and matches i have been running a 553 the 65moa ring center perfect on the 6-8 com area on all humannoid targets i have tried
very fast shots and hits can be had remember its an MOP aiming ring/range bdc as well.
i feel the 65moa ring has a hunge plus on shootingon th emove and against moving tragets in one such rep we were shooting at moving targets from a moving vehicle and hits were easy so to speak when using the 65moa ring
also it allows you to bracket a person for a rough range estimation as well out to say 400yds
i like the 65moa ring for movers and moving and hitting at fast speeds Minute of Person shooting is faster with it for sure,,,,,
vBulletin® v3.7.2, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.