View Full Version : LANCER'S NEW LIGHTWEIGHT CARBON-FIBER HANDGUARD TO BE INTRODUCED AT SHOT2011
LancerSystems
12-23-10, 21:35
Here are some shots of our new Lightweight Carbon-Fiber Free Float Handguard we will be introducing at SHOT this year.
In the photos are the carbine and 15" handguard lengths.
More details will be posted as we get closer to SHOT :D
LIGHTWEIGHT CARBON-FIBER HANDGUARD http://www.lancer-systems.com/PDFs/LCH_Flyer.pdf
http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/LCH_1_LR.jpg, http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/LCH_2_LR.jpg, http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/LCH_3_LR.jpg,http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/LCH_4_LR.jpg
Robb Jensen
12-23-10, 21:58
Nice.
What's the weight on one of these, it's looks very nice!
Oh, those look so light and stiff. Make a 12-13 incher with a cutout for a midlength FSB, and you've got at least one guaranteed sale :)
Oh, those look so light and stiff. Make a 12-13 incher with a cutout for a midlength FSB, and you've got at least one guaranteed sale :)
Make that 2
SilentType
12-24-10, 00:23
That's brillant. Honestly, not sure on the look I'll have to let it sink in more to decide whether I like it or not, but I'm all about the benefits of it both from an ergonomics standpoint and balance standpoint.
Looks good! Anyone know who the maker of the upper & lower on the rifle is?
Do you have a ballpark price figure for the 15" model? I just saw that JP has a 15" tube out...might hold out for one of these if it'll be released soon and the price is right.
LancerSystems
12-24-10, 05:36
Looks good! Anyone know who the maker of the upper & lower on the rifle is?
The lower receivers are Lancer L15's, the SBR has the tactical magwell and the 18" has a competition magwell.
The side charger upper is LAR
LancerSystems
12-24-10, 05:41
Nice.
What's the weight on one of these, it's looks very nice!
Robb,
We'll have the weights posted after the holidays, I can tell you the rifle length is about 25% lighter than the JP.
LancerSystems
12-24-10, 05:46
That's brillant. Honestly, not sure on the look I'll have to let it sink in more to decide whether I like it or not, but I'm all about the benefits of it both from an ergonomics standpoint and balance standpoint.
The photos are deceiving, they are actually not that glossy. These pictures were taken witha flash, the flash reflects off the carbon fibers. In normal light they are a dark brownish - red color with a matt finish.
GermanSynergy
12-24-10, 08:08
Looks great. Can't wait to try one out!
Robb Jensen
12-24-10, 08:13
Robb,
We'll have the weights posted after the holidays, I can tell you the rifle length is about 25% lighter than the JP.
Nice.
http://shiori.haptism.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/dowant.jpg
sniperfrog
12-24-10, 14:52
looks good. I really like the 15" one. I'm glad more mfgs are coming out with the 15" handguards.
I was looking at the PRI tube but now I'll wait and see how these compare.
How does it mount up?
The lower receivers are Lancer L15's, the SBR has the tactical magwell and the 18" has a competition magwell.
The side charger upper is LAR
Thanks! I may need to pick up one of the competition lowers and a 15" tube! :)
Bolt_Overide
12-26-10, 04:34
Interesting, tag for updates.
Appears light weight. Design reminds me of JP VTAC handguards.
Littlelebowski
12-27-10, 13:56
I am really looking forward to these.
LancerSystems
12-28-10, 08:07
looks good. I really like the 15" one. I'm glad more mfgs are coming out with the 15" handguards.
I was looking at the PRI tube but now I'll wait and see how these compare.
How does it mount up?
It mounts similar to the JP handguards
PRGGodfather
12-28-10, 09:56
Excellent idea! Looks very promising. Gonna have to find you at the show...
LancerSystems
12-29-10, 10:51
Robb,
We'll have the weights posted after the holidays, I can tell you the rifle length is about 25% lighter than the JP.
Here are some "unofficial" weights of the handguard with endcap and mounting adapter, does not include barrel nut.
Carbine length - 6.8oz
Mid Length - 7.7oz
Rifle length - 8.7oz
15" - 9.9oz
for comparison the rifle length JP with mounting adapter weights 12.8oz.
Will there be attachment points for sections of 1913 rails?
Robb Jensen
01-09-11, 15:29
That 15" FF tube sounds awesome.
This handguard looks awesome. I'm assuming it will have no problem holding zero?
-B
LancerSystems
01-09-11, 21:03
Will there be attachment points for sections of 1913 rails?
The 12 o'clock rails will require special connectors that will be provided (installed) when the handguard is purchased with a rail at 12 o'clock. The slots provided will accept add on accessory rails. We will be offering our own add on rail and hardware.
http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/LCH_Carbine_Rifle.gif
LancerSystems
01-09-11, 21:51
This handguard looks awesome. I'm assuming it will have no problem holding zero?
-B
The tubes are free float and won't contact the barrel effecting accuracy.
We will offer an optional rail at 12 o'clock, these rails are currently being tested for reliability. Our goal is to offer a 12 o'clock rail that will not be effected by heat or pressure to ensure sights/optics retain their zero.
That answers my question, thanks!
-B
LancerSystems
01-10-11, 20:33
Here is our Lightweight Carbon-Fiber Handguard flyer we will distribute at SHOT
http://www.lancer-systems.com/PDFs/LCH_Flyer.pdf
sniperfrog
01-10-11, 20:42
What if I just want a 2" rail section at 12 o'clock for a front site? Can I bolt one on there?
What if I just want a 2" rail section at 12 o'clock for a front site? Can I bolt one on there?
If it has a slot at 12 o'clock just like the slots shown on the sides, then I don't see why not. I'm still holding out for an FSB cutout version.
Are they pure carbon? The first pic looks like an aluminum tube wrapped in carbon?
LancerSystems
01-11-11, 10:42
Are they pure carbon? The first pic looks like an aluminum tube wrapped in carbon?
The tubes are all carbon-fiber, not overwrapped aluminum. Also note they are not round, but octagon shaped.
LancerSystems
01-11-11, 10:53
If it has a slot at 12 o'clock just like the slots shown on the sides, then I don't see why not. I'm still holding out for an FSB cutout version.
Actually, there are no slots at 12 o'clock. Since the rail at 12 o'clock can be used for sights it will need to be aligned with the rail on the rifle. We are planning to use special inserts and a custom rail at the 12 o'clock position. The rails and inserts are still being tested so I can't comment much more.
We will offer a full rail and a 2" rail option at 12 o'clock
The tubes are all carbon-fiber, not overwrapped aluminum. Also note they are not round, but octagon shaped.
Cool, carbon mags please....:p
Does it use its own barrel nut or the standard one?
-B
LonghunterCO
01-18-11, 23:08
In for additional information....
Howdy,
Your website noted 1 June as the expected release date for these handguards, can you provide any update on the status?
Thanks!
LancerSystems
07-15-11, 10:35
Pricing for the Lightweight Carbon-Fiber Handguards has been added to our website.
Parts are in production and we expect to start shipping mid August
http://www.lancer-systems.com/Images/TAPS_1.gif
Robb Jensen
07-15-11, 14:47
I'm diggin' mine, it's truly badass and SUPER lightweight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/Lancer001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/Lancer008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/Lancer003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/Lancer005.jpg
ForTehNguyen
07-16-11, 09:17
for the rifle length handguards thats some pretty substantial weight savings. 12" DD rails are about 15.3oz, and the lancer rifle length handguard is 8.7oz. The weight savings arent as good for the carbine or midlength lengths
A couple of questions....
Any updates on when these will start shipping?
On the description on your website the "extra long" version is listed as being 16.25" long. On the price sheet that was recently released it lists the "extra long" version as being 15" long. Can I get a clarification on the length of the "extra long" handguard? Here's to hoping it is 15"! That would work perfectly for the 16" precision upper I have in the works.
Would also appreciate an update on timing, been waiting for this since SHOT! ;)
Nick, maybe they mean that 15" is the length of the handguard itself and 16.25" is the total length including the barrel nut assembly?
Robb, how long is the barrel in your build above? If it's a 16" barrel, it seems like 16.25" total length might be correct.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/Lancer005.jpg
LancerSystems
08-30-11, 20:59
we had hoped to be shipping by now, but it looks like a couple more weeks to get all the parts complete.
The overall length of the 15" handguard is actually 16.25", so could be an issue with a 16" barrel depending on your muzzle break / flash hider. The 15" handguard was designed to be used with 18" or larger barrel lengths.
That's what I figured on the overall length. Thanks for the response.
Any plans for a 13 or 14inch tube? That would be exactly what I'm looking for for my 16" build.
LancerSystems
08-30-11, 21:17
actually yes, it will be released with the 308 handguards at SHOT.
actually yes, it will be released with the 308 handguards at SHOT.
Excellent.
Saw these today at the FN 3 gun match and was blown away how light they are. The barrel nut is the the heaviest part and it's closest to the receiver- so minimal pendulum effect.
actually yes, it will be released with the 308 handguards at SHOT.
308.....that's what I'm waiting for!!
7075 alloy on the top rail sections?
[SIZE="4"]Here are some shots of our new Lightweight Carbon-Fiber Free Float Handguard we will be introducing at SHOT this year.
I can't vouch as to the value of them, but they sure are way cool looking to my eyes. Cool factor of 10. :cool:
7075 alloy on the top rail sections?
In addition to the question above, how does the CF hold up as far as abrasion goes? If one built a 'knock around the woods/brush' gun with on of these tubes, can you expect damage fairly easily? Since these have been out for a while, what's the consensus?
I'd hate to scrape against a tree/rock and have the CF start to fray and whatnot on me...
LancerSystems
12-16-11, 15:06
7075 alloy on the top rail sections?
top sight rails are 6061
LancerSystems
12-16-11, 15:18
In addition to the question above, how does the CF hold up as far as abrasion goes? If one built a 'knock around the woods/brush' gun with on of these tubes, can you expect damage fairly easily? Since these have been out for a while, what's the consensus?
I'd hate to scrape against a tree/rock and have the CF start to fray and whatnot on me...
we havn't had any issues so far, our 3gun team has been using them all year without any scarping / fraying and these guys go into barricades hard.
we havn't had any issues so far, our 3gun team has been using them all year without any scarping / fraying and these guys go into barricades hard.
Thats good news. Thanks for the replies on both fronts.
LancerSystems,
Does the 7075 receiver extension and the (I assume also 7075) aluminum end cap come already attached or can I get those stripped and re-anodized much like the one you had done in green?
I also saw that the midlength handguard will not cover a low profile gas block. Is this still correct?
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