Noveske N4 Light - Low Profile

[NightFighter]

Wondering what others with experience think of the Noveske N4 Light - Low Profile rifle? I have been looking at the Noveske N4 Light - Low Profile rifle and the S&W M&P 15T and wondering what others think of these two rifles?:confused:

[1SFG]

I haven't picked up one of his new N4 uppers yet, but I have several of his regular rifles and the quality is excellent. I firmly believe the N4 will be superior in every aspect to the S&W if for no other reason than the attention John and his staff are able to direct to the rifles coming out of his shop vs. the more mass produced S&W's. I have nothing negative or positive to say about the S&W - don't own one, but I KNOW Noveske's work product and there's no way you can go wrong with his offerings.

[User Name]

I have a Noveske N4 and love it. Ran 1500 rounds through it without cleaning just Slip. I have seen S&W's that are decent and other that are crap. My opinion after seeing several S&W with problems is that the Noveske is heads and tails above the Smith. Frankly at this point I'd never buy a S&W period.

[Mike T]

My N4 arrived yesterday and I'm very pleased. Very good quality and from what I can tell a flawlessly built rifle. It's head and shoulders above the S&W's I've seen.

[NightFighter]

My N4 arrived yesterday and I'm very pleased. Very good quality and from what I can tell a flawlessly built rifle. It's head and shoulders above the S&W's I've seen.

What length rifle did you get? Did you get the low profile N4? What specifically makes the N4 better than the S&W? :confused:

[NightFighter]

I have a Noveske N4 and love it. Ran 1500 rounds through it without cleaning just Slip. I have seen S&W's that are decent and other that are crap. My opinion after seeing several S&W with problems is that the Noveske is heads and tails above the Smith. Frankly at this point I'd never buy a S&W period.
What it Slip? What sort of problems where the S&Ws having when you noticed the problems?

[NightFighter]

I haven't picked up one of his new N4 uppers yet, but I have several of his regular rifles and the quality is excellent. I firmly believe the N4 will be superior in every aspect to the S&W if for no other reason than the attention John and his staff are able to direct to the rifles coming out of his shop vs. the more mass produced S&W's. I have nothing negative or positive to say about the S&W - don't own one, but I KNOW Noveske's work product and there's no way you can go wrong with his offerings.
Thanks for your input. I am researching the N4 and from what I have read many other have nothing but good things to say about the N4.

[Mike T]

What length rifle did you get? Did you get the low profile N4? What specifically makes the N4 better than the S&W? :confused:

I have the standard N4 Low Profile carbine w/ 14.5" barrel & pinned vortex. I should not have pointed my post directly toward S&W as if there was something specifically wrong w/ them. However I base my opinion on the fit & finish of the carbine. Due to a kneck problem I've not been able to shoot it. However after looking at S&W's at a local gun shop I can say the fit is overall better, better trigger & more consistent trigger. That doesn't mean the S&W doesn't go boom when you want it to.

[sgtlmj]

What specifically makes the N4 better than the S&W? :confused:


N4: 14.5" Cold Hammer Forged Barrel, 1 in 7" twist, 5.56mm
--Made of Mil Spec M249 Machine Gun barrel steel, with heavy M249 Chrome Lining, (appx. 2 times as thick as an M4 or M16)

[Stickman]

Wondering what others with experience think of the Noveske N4 Light - Low Profile rifle? I have been looking at the Noveske N4 Light - Low Profile rifle and the S&W M&P 15T and wondering what others think of these two rifles?:confused:


The Noveske and the S&W aren't designed to be in the same league, so its unfair to S&W to compare them. The barrel, staking, stock, grip, level of QC (etc) that goes into Novekse take it far beyond that of a mass production carbine.

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Noveske/IMG_3558%20Stick.jpg

[NightFighter]

The Noveske and the S&W aren't designed to be in the same league, so its unfair to S&W to compare them. The barrel, staking, stock, grip, level of QC (etc) that goes into Novekse take it far beyond that of a mass production carbine.
Thanks for the picture and the information on the level of QC of the Noveske.

[NightFighter]

N4: 14.5" Cold Hammer Forged Barrel, 1 in 7" twist, 5.56mm
--Made of Mil Spec M249 Machine Gun barrel steel, with heavy M249 Chrome Lining, (appx. 2 times as thick as an M4 or M16)
Thanks for your input.

[caporider]

What it Slip?

Slip 2000 (http://www.slip2000.com/slip2000-EWL.html). Great all-around weapons lube - stays put during firing and has fewer harmful chemicals.

[Bison]

My M&P15T has been a fine weapon. Mine doesn't get really hard use -- it is limited to plinking and 3-gun matches, mostly -- but it has been flawless. I'd love to take a carbine class but that is just not in the cards right now.

On the other hand, I had a buddy who had one that had a burr on the ejector that gave him fits until Smith finally replaced the whole BCG. Now his runs perfectly, too (in the same capacity as mine - 3-gun matches, etc.).

It is true that the S&W is not in quite the same league as the Noveske. Noveske is a semi-custom/custom builder. Smith is, well, not a semi-custom/custom builder. However, as far as bang for the buck went, I got pretty much everything I wanted at a fair price when I bought my Smith and I've been pleased.

[GIFFMANN]

Stickman,

Any words of wisdom in relation to the Foreend Noveske is now using?

Thanks!

Giff

[Stickman]

Solid lockup, no gap, multiple QD mounts, well done machining. It looks like a good upgrade to me.

[AR15barrels]

Any words of wisdom in relation to the Foreend Noveske is now using?

It's an SWS.
Very well made.
Just not advertised and the guy making them does not spend enough time on forums promoting them.

[Joe R.]

I recently purchased one of the SWS rails and while I only have a few hundred rounds through the gun with the rail, at this point I like it. To go along with that the owner of the company was very helpful and the service outstanding.

[Aubrey]

I'd still like to know comparative weights/dimensions of the SWS/Noveske railed forend versus the competition.

[NightFighter]

The Noveske and the S&W aren't designed to be in the same league, so its unfair to S&W to compare them. The barrel, staking, stock, grip, level of QC (etc) that goes into Novekse take it far beyond that of a mass production carbine.Stickman,
How did you get your name on the side rail? Is that the 14.5" low profile Novekse? Which FS is that on your rifle and is it permanently attached? Very nice rifle and I almost have enough money to get me one:D

[Eric]

It's an SWS.
Very well made.
Just not advertised and the guy making them does not spend enough time on forums promoting them.
I have a feeling we'll be seeing more of them. They're nice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/AR15forme/Noveske/N4-3.jpg

[NightFighter]

Eric,
If you have the post more pics. I love the look of this rifle and need more inspiration to keep me saving my pennies so I can buy one.:cool:

[RyanS]

Stick,

When do we get a comprehensive review on the rifle that been rumored to be in the works?

[AR15barrels]

How did you get your name on the side rail?

Photoshop.

[AR15barrels]

I have a feeling we'll be seeing more of them. They're nice.

They have been out for several years.

SWS (http://www.superiorweaponssystems.com/)

Narrow in your hand like a LaRue
Monolithic look like a Daniel Defense Lite Rail
Priced roughly $10 less than a LaRue in most lengths
Includes a wrench for installation

[Stickman]

Stickman,
How did you get your name on the side rail? Is that the 14.5" low profile Novekse? Which FS is that on your rifle and is it permanently attached? Very nice rifle and I almost have enough money to get me one:D


It is the 14.5 with Vortex permanently attached. Here is another picture of the rail....

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Noveske/IMG_3421%20Stick.jpg

[Stickman]

Stick,

When do we get a comprehensive review on the rifle that been rumored to be in the works?


If you haven't seen it by the end of this week, IM or email me and I'll get it to you.

[Stickman]

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/AR15%20Carbines%20II/IMG_4984%20Stick.jpg

[rob_s]

Tease!
:eek:

[NightFighter]

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/AR15%20Carbines%20II/IMG_4984%20Stick.jpg
looks good

[UPSguy]

Stickman, what ever happened to your review?

[Stickman]

Stickman, what ever happened to your review?


I should point out that I'm not the only review on it, but here you go..... http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67

[UPSguy]

Thanks for the link.

[D-gin]

Stickman you're killing me with all those N4 pron photos.


:p