Spike's Tactical 37mm Launcher: "Havoc" [Archive]

ech01

09-15-2007, 07:07 PM

Spike's Tactical 37mm Launcher: "Havoc"

Prototype Pictures:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/ech01/IMG_0167.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/ech01/IMG_0171.jpg

In Production.
Billet Aluminum
Stainless Steel Trigger Mechanism
Stainless Steel Firing Pin
Slotted Tube
Upgraded Breach Latch
Blue (black) Anodized.
Laser Engraved

SuicideHz

09-15-2007, 07:52 PM

Other side please!

ech01

09-15-2007, 08:06 PM

check out top pic!!

SuicideHz

09-15-2007, 10:04 PM

Sorry, that one didn't load the first time!

ETA: Ok, so how does it unlock and open?

Driver45acp

09-16-2007, 12:50 AM

ETA: Ok, so how does it unlock and open?

Press the button on the top rail, just above the 1st finger groove.

Ray

DKircher

09-16-2007, 01:14 AM

I. Must. Have.

ech01

09-16-2007, 01:20 AM

Exactly what Ray said. :D

Colt6920

09-16-2007, 02:01 AM

What rounds are available for the 37mm launchers? "Bird bomb" rounds were banned I think. That leaves smoke,flare and cs???

SuicideHz

09-16-2007, 02:17 AM

Chalk dude!!!

Shihan

09-16-2007, 06:16 AM

ech01 check your PM's

AR15barrels

09-16-2007, 06:20 AM

Some questions/comments...

Will the final prodution models use countersunk screws for a nicer finished product?
Can these be made with more grooves of a smaller size on the handguard to look more authentic?
Will these be offered without ports in the barrel?

Where will the make/model/serial be engraved?

These will be regular title I firearms right?

C4IGrant

09-16-2007, 09:51 AM

What rounds are available for the 37mm launchers? "Bird bomb" rounds were banned I think. That leaves smoke,flare and cs???

Smoke, CS and flares are available (which we stock). ;)

C4

Sweep

09-16-2007, 11:14 AM

how soon will they be available to the guys local to ya . and are you gonna do a 40mm registrable version ?:D

ech01

09-16-2007, 11:42 AM

They will be available the same time Knob Creek comes around (Mid October) for everyone. Just give Spike a call!!

(sorry guys im not allowed to give you'all price and ordering information because im not an official "dealer")

We will not be selling any of the 37mm ammunition for it, however there are pretty good amounts of them out there available to purchase
... such as from C4IGrant :D

Will the final prodution models use countersunk screws for a nicer finished product?
Will these be offered without ports in the barrel?

- The product that you see is the product that will be coming out... For the time being, it will be our only model.

Can these be made with more grooves of a smaller size on the handguard to look more authentic?

- Since it is a "Spike's Tactical" production...it will be "Spikes Tactical" Authentic. :p

Where will the make/model/serial be engraved?

- They will be engraved with make and model... since it is a FLARE launcher and not a firearm, it will not need a serial.

These will be regular title I firearms right?

- No sir! It is a 37 mm FLARE launcher.. which is not a "Weapon."

Matt in AZ

09-16-2007, 01:17 PM

Will the final prodution models use countersunk screws for a nicer finished product?

This was my first observation as well.

However, I do not know if you are looking for observations, comments, or reviews at this time.

You have developed a great product. If you are indeed seeking observations, comments, and reviews, my recommendation would be you solicit them in the Custom Build section of the Tactical Gear section. You may want to constrict the comments to machinists, professional builders, armorers, and engineers in order to filter the extraneous ideas.

I predict you will find a lot of support here, as I am sure many in that group of people have taken products to market in the past.

If you believe you have the situation well in hand, press on and let us know when these 37mm Launchers hit the market.

ech01

09-16-2007, 07:22 PM

Matt (and all of this thread's viewers),

On behalf of Spike's Tactical, i thank you for your support and your comments.

I'm just posting the pictures up to get a little exposure to our customers, friends, and (hopefully) potential customers for the 37mm launcher.

Since I am not the "dealer" I am restricted to some things that we would like to post on here. However, we are working on becoming a "dealer" on this website. We like this M4carbine.net alot and plan to support it in as many ways possible. :cool:

Comments and Questions would be AWESOME from anyone and everyone. :D

=ZoomZ=

09-17-2007, 09:40 AM

Wall thickness of the trigger reciever does not allow for counter sunk screws .

The bead blasted finish of the prototype and the close up picture makes the stainless button head screws stick out like a sore thumb .

In production , the launcher will be black and the black button heads screws will almost blend right in .

As a matter of fact , the launcher will be anodized today and by thing evening there should be pictures up of the same launcher in black .

=ZoomZ=

Lumpy196

09-17-2007, 10:57 PM

Well that should scare the restless natives...

ech01

09-18-2007, 12:16 AM

Updated Pictures

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/ech01/37mmblack1.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/ech01/37mmblack.jpg

Shihan

09-18-2007, 12:37 AM

I needs me one!

Armati

09-23-2007, 12:58 AM

Looks snakey but I think that top rail is about twice as high as it needs to be. Any way you can bring that down some?

=ZoomZ=

09-23-2007, 03:46 AM

Looks snakey but I think that top rail is about twice as high as it needs to be. Any way you can bring that down some?

Whats does "snakey" mean ?

Sweep

09-23-2007, 07:50 AM

over all length ? whats the shortest these come ?

Armati

09-23-2007, 11:08 AM

Whats does "snakey" mean ?

Slick, cool, evil, mean, bad ass.

In other words, the launcher has good lines but it's fit to the rail makes it look awkward.

=ZoomZ=

09-23-2007, 12:49 PM

Slick, cool, evil, mean, bad ass.

Gotcha .

over all length ? whats the shortest these come ?

12.5 inches .

ech01

09-23-2007, 01:38 PM

"Snakey" ... I like that! :D

updated pics I recieved from Angela:
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/ech01/37MMLauncher1_Small.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/ech01/37MMLauncher2_Small.jpg

AR15barrels

09-23-2007, 01:54 PM

=ZoomZ=

09-23-2007, 07:28 PM

Very nice Echo ,, that looks even better than i thought it would .

=ZoomZ=

10-02-2007, 03:06 AM

Where is the clamping machanism that retains this to the lower rail of the handguard?

Do I understand correctly that the large stainless button unlocks the breech and allows it to slide forward?

Is there an extractor within the breechface that retains the fired cartridge case so that it falls out when you open the breech to reload?

The main rail of the launcher has a female pic rail machined into it and locks in place with 4 x 5/16-18 dog nose set screws with nylon locking elements for ease of positioning and strength .

The Stainless locking system is a new design and locks on to 3 times more surface area than the typical lever locking units .

The Stainless Steel was used for the prototype , production models will be made of 1018cr steel and a mil-spec black oxide coating .

There is no extractor in the unit because there simply was no need for it .

After firing countless rnds of different types , not one stuck in the tube and all came out with no effort at all .

There is a thumb cut out if you do actually have to grab the casing for some reason .

Elevate the gun barrel , push the button , slide the launcher tube forward and the casing falls out .

Sorry i didnt see this post before or i would have responded sooner to your questions .

bushmasterar15

10-06-2007, 10:09 PM

This is something I need just looks like fun.

=ZoomZ=

10-06-2007, 11:00 PM

We are running the first batch of launchers right now :)

I might just have to keep launcher #1 for myself :P

AR15barrels

10-16-2007, 04:22 PM

I got to handle the prototype when I bumped into Spike walking around at Knob Creek on Saturday.
Alas, they were not ready for purchase "at the creek" as originally mentioned above.
Not a problem though.
These are worth waiting for. :)

ech01

10-16-2007, 05:12 PM

New Video on Youtube of the Havoc:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qktD6TQiZQ4

And if you were there, here is our video of the Road Trip to Knob Creek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr3b4D9dECg

AR15Barrels (Randall), did i get the honor of meeting you?? I was with Spike pretty much the whole time snapping pictures for videos...I was the chinese guy with the mohawk. :p

tiger seven

10-16-2007, 05:23 PM

I was at Knob Creek all day Saturday, but somehow I missed this. Looks nice, though.

Derek

AR15barrels

10-16-2007, 05:30 PM

AR15Barrels (Randall), did i get the honor of meeting you?? I was with Spike pretty much the whole time snapping pictures for videos...I was the chinese guy with the mohawk. :p

In the picture sequence, I'm the big guy in the light gray t-shirt holding the Havoc.
Spike is to my right, ambulance and firing line behind us.
Next to last picture of the day 3 sequence. (last picture is a woman in the parking lot/campground)

Shihan

10-16-2007, 06:30 PM

WB Randall
I knew I should have went instead of playing Karate Master and teaching a seminar:mad: Thw last time I was in KY was for Basic and that was many, many moons ago.

midget militia

10-16-2007, 07:05 PM

Shihan

10-16-2007, 08:11 PM

I have a 37mm launcher made by RPB, looks much more like an m203. A good resource for these launchers can be seen at 37mm.com, alot of good info on various launchers, and even has info on how to reload your own ammo. Firequest.com also has launchers, and ammo including an adapter that lets you shoot 12 gauge type flares. Cobray also makes m203 type launchers that looks similar to an m203, and even clamps around the notch on an m4 barrel. Been playing with my launcher for a couple years, and is recommend it.

Midge

Welcome to the board. I dont think Spikes was concerned with having it look identical to a M203. This board as your new here and probably dont know isnt a home for "Posers" and the interest IMO is that the Spikes product is different and not trying to be what it is not. Anyway wecome, take off your shoes and stay awhile.

=ZoomZ=

10-16-2007, 08:52 PM

Alas, they were not ready for purchase "at the creek" as originally mentioned above.
Not a problem though.
These are worth waiting for. :)

Its all my fault they were not ready , i tried to have them ready for knob creek but it didnt work out that way . :(

All the other manufacturers make these parts from extrusions and cast parts .

Spike and i went over our options and decided to do all solid billet parts even tho it would take more time .

Today as i was setting up the last operation on the trigger and the bolt i can see why the others make them from castings but we wanted to build a better product with tighter tolerances and thats exactly what we are going to have , its just taking me a little longer than i thought it would :(

After this first batch of 100 launchers , all the cnc programming and fixturing will be done and i wont have to beat myself up figuring out how to hold or manufacture these parts .

The next batch will take half the time to produce .

These launchers are very unique and no one makes anything like them so they will be worth waiting for imo.

Gibbles

10-16-2007, 11:33 PM

I like, but what I would really want is something that looks more like the real thing, take LMT's rail mounted launcher, I love that thing. I just can’t justify the $1400 for something I'll rarely use + the $200 tax stamp.
$300 is easier to justify though.

ech01

10-17-2007, 12:36 AM

Ahh!! I remember you!! I dont recall you letting us know you're a fellow M4Carbiner though. I'm glad I snapped a picture of you in it...i hope you didnt mind? I do recall asking you for permission. =) Well, in that case, it WAS an honor meeting you and I hope you got good vibes from us.

Spike wanted a reliable, durable, original, and high quality product and with Russell's help, he got just that.

I'm not sure if you can tell, but he only carries and supplies us reliable, durable, original and high quality products. What I feel makes him stick out is that he backs his products up 100%.

For the size of his company and the amount of output he produces... I dont know anyone else that has their cell phone number as the company number on his business cards

Back to the Launcher... those of you who have already preordered them..LUCKY. I'm not getting any of the first batch :mad:

Its okay though, customers come first.

AR15barrels

10-17-2007, 11:34 AM

I dont know anyone else that has their cell phone number as the company number on his business cards...do you?

My cell phone number is my company number on my business cards too.

ech01

10-17-2007, 12:37 PM

I think thats a sign of excellent Quality Assurance, Randall

Well then, i guess we're all in good company of honest, caring and intelligent professionals. :D

=ZoomZ=

10-31-2007, 10:22 PM

Wipe em down , box em up and ship em out !

http://catchcans.com/videos/Pictures/37mm%20launchers.jpg

http://catchcans.com/videos/Pictures/37mm%20launchers%202.jpg

scottryan

10-31-2007, 10:36 PM

Hangs too far below the gun. Worse than a rail mounted M203.

=ZoomZ=

10-31-2007, 10:47 PM

fyi , it fits tigher to the gun than a 203 by over 3/4" from center line of the barrel to the bottom of the launcher because of the new billet trigger frame/guard.

scottryan

11-01-2007, 12:04 AM

fyi , it fits tigher to the gun than a 203 by over 3/4" from center line of the barrel to the bottom of the launcher because of the new billet trigger frame/guard.

Huh???

The bottom of the trigger guard in your pictures is at least an inch lower than the bottom of a trigger guard on a M203.

Anybody can see that:

http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=524464&size=big&password=&sort=7&thecat=500

http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=524463&sort=7&thecat=500&password=

http://www.hunt101.com/img/524463.jpg

http://www.hunt101.com/img/524464.jpg

http://www.hunt101.com/img/524463.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=524463&c=500&z=1)

http://www.hunt101.com/img/524464.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=524464&c=500&z=1)