View Full Version : Daniel Defense Omega Rail?
rob_s
09-21-2007, 08:09 AM
Looks interesting. Stickman has a bunch of threads going on it, but these two are the most interesting.
Review (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63)
Installation (http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65)
(I guess this "weaponevolution.com" is Stickman's new forum of his own? Looks nice so far!)
I don't think that anyone will rush out and replace existing rails with this thing, but for non-LEOs that don't feel confident in removing their barrel and FSB, or the LEO that can't remove it on an issued weapon, this thing seems like a great idea.
One thing I'm not sure of is the overall height. The bottom rail appears lower than the bottom rail on other forends. DD's bottom rail is already lower than the LT, and I wonder if this one is even lower. Only way to know would be to have Stickman put a caliper on both.
The other is the use of the set screws in the final step of assembly. It seems like it could be possible to over-tighten either the upper or lower screws and throw the whole thing out of alignment, but I guess that really depends on the tolerances of the grooves that surround the teeth on the barrel nut.
gotm4
09-21-2007, 08:18 AM
They look very promising, I'm sure we'll be ordering some.
I looked at the DD site & didn't see it there, anyone have an Idea of the cost & who is selling them?
Yojimbo
09-21-2007, 09:19 AM
Those look very nice indeed! I'd like to try a mid-length set.
Wow, that is an awesome looking set of rails.
Eric Rice
09-21-2007, 09:47 AM
Top rail to bottom rail is 2.42", left to right is 1.90".
The bottom rail is 1.21" below the centerline of the barrel.
Other lengths will be coming, but the 7.0 is rolling out first.
http://www.danieldefense.com/img/raildimscomp.gif
Top rail to bottom rail is 2.42", left to right is 1.90".
The bottom rail is 1.21" below the centerline of the barrel.
Other lengths will be coming, but the 7.0 is rolling out first.
Who is selling these & what's the retail?
Thanks
Eric Rice
09-21-2007, 10:04 AM
Ranier Arms has it listed on thier site, and any of our dealers/distributors can do the same. There is a growing pre-order list. Retail is $249.95 for the 7.0 model.
Eric,
Will Brownell's be handling them?
Thanks
Eric Rice
09-21-2007, 10:28 AM
After they see it, I'm confident they'll pick it up and add it to their catalog.
C4IGrant
09-21-2007, 10:41 AM
The rail does look very promising and will be stocking them for sure!
C4
Eric Rice
09-21-2007, 10:45 AM
The rail does look very promising and will be stocking them for sure!
C4
Of course, I encourage all you crazy kids out there in M4Carbine.net-land to purchase from G&R!
:D
*Disclaimer: This post should not be construed as a recommendation of DD vendor preference. It is only to show courtesy to our gracious hosts.
Hawkeye
09-21-2007, 10:48 AM
Wish I would have known about these (that is if they'll be available in midlength form) about a month ago.. .
tiger seven
09-21-2007, 10:49 AM
I'm glad I put off getting a new rail. I think this is just what I was waiting for.
Thanks!
Derek
Paulinski
09-21-2007, 11:01 AM
Congrats on a new design. I only use DD rails on my guns. ;)
rob_s
09-21-2007, 11:27 AM
Top rail to bottom rail is 2.42", left to right is 1.90".
The bottom rail is 1.21" below the centerline of the barrel.
Other lengths will be coming, but the 7.0 is rolling out first.
http://www.danieldefense.com/img/raildimscomp.gif
That is a GREAT drawing to have. Thank you for posting. How's that thing go? right click, save as?:D
rob_s
09-21-2007, 11:45 AM
That picture also reveals exactly why the Omega looked taller to me at first; the central "tube" is smaller, meaning that the "arms" are longer to get the rails to the same distance away from the centerline of the bore.
I wonder what the smallest rail that could be made is? In other words, if you used a tube size of the Omega and attached the rails like the M4. Obviously the top rail has to be the height that it is both to clear the gas tube and to match up with the height of the upper receiver, but it seems that all the others could be closer in, allowing a rail plus Tango Down covers to have a slimmer profile (although the covers might start to bump into each other too....).
Oh well, mindless ramblings as I sit waiting for the cable guy.:D
Eric Rice
09-21-2007, 11:58 AM
TD panels on the Omega Rail's side and bottom rails have about 0.25" of space between them.
UPSguy
09-21-2007, 01:39 PM
Of course, I encourage all you crazy kids out there in M4Carbine.net-land to purchase from G&R!
:D
Does look like a nice rail!
olds442tyguy
09-21-2007, 03:32 PM
Very nice!
I think it's safe to say you guys have all aspects of the rail market covered now. :D
fast97rs
09-21-2007, 04:38 PM
Very very interesting..... glad that I didn't start ordering accessories yet. :D
I wonder though.... how those who prefer a rail made of a single piece would feel about this two piece rail (such as those that aren't free float).
Would it be just as tough? Would it hold optics sights to zero as reliably as other free float single piece guards would?
I like how it unites with the upper's rail.... very nice "look" and seemless functionallity for optics that can only be found on more expensive uppers.
Like I said.... VERY interesting. Might have too keep an eye on them till they create a slightly longer version.
Jorgy
Eric Rice
09-21-2007, 04:46 PM
Rest assured, fellas. We've beat this hand guard up pretty badly. The testing procedure had parts that made me cringe.
One interesting event during testing was the torque test. We installed various vertical fore grips on the bottom rail, mounted the upper in the vise and tried to get the hand guard to rotate. In one case, after cranking on it for some time, we actually unscrewed the barrel nut!
I'm amazed how rigid this system is.
gotm4
09-21-2007, 04:55 PM
Rest assured, fellas. We've beat this hand guard up pretty badly. The testing procedure had parts that made me cringe.
One interesting event during testing was the torque test. We installed various vertical fore grips on the bottom rail, mounted the upper in the vise and tried to get the hand guard to rotate. In one case, after cranking on it for some time, we actually unscrewed the barrel nut!
I'm amazed how rigid this system is.
I can't wait to get one. I'm thinking of putting one on my Colt 6721/6920 hybrid. The way that the rail indexing off of the bbl nut seem like it would have to crack/break the gas tube rendering the gun a single shot before the bbl nut moved.
Eric Rice
09-21-2007, 04:59 PM
Yes, the gas tube was severely damaged...
UPSguy
09-21-2007, 05:54 PM
At the risk of getting kicked off this forum could whoever edited my original post please tell me why, IM is fine. I didn't cuss anyone out, didn't call anyone names and I thought it was a fair question to my friend Eric.
Again, I think this is probably a very nice product as are most of DD's products. I like the DD stuff I use.
Tasty! Might have to get one for the SBR project.
Shihan
09-21-2007, 10:00 PM
Hey a free float forearm that I can even put on:p
Trim2L
09-21-2007, 11:16 PM
Interesting!
RAM Engineer
09-22-2007, 03:28 PM
Would one of these fit on a Noveske N4 due to their different profile barrel?
Glockster35
09-22-2007, 04:12 PM
I could be very interested in one of these for my next build!
And the price seems about right!
Eric Rice
09-22-2007, 06:31 PM
Would one of these fit on a Noveske N4 due to their different profile barrel?
Yes, no problem.
Remember, the hand guard mounts around the barrel nut, and no AR15 barrel is wider at any point than at the nut.
Can't wait to get my hands on one. I've been bugging Cheaf about a two piece rail for a while now; this one appears to be worth the wait. Like that's any sort of a surprise.:D
Impact
09-22-2007, 09:33 PM
looks great ! it's on my list to replace my KAC RAS
Marler5811
09-22-2007, 10:20 PM
Rest assured, fellas. We've beat this hand guard up pretty badly. The testing procedure had parts that made me cringe.
One interesting event during testing was the torque test. We installed various vertical fore grips on the bottom rail, mounted the upper in the vise and tried to get the hand guard to rotate. In one case, after cranking on it for some time, we actually unscrewed the barrel nut!
I'm amazed how rigid this system is.
Very True. I also had the rail mounted on an upper with a TD vert grip on the lower rail. With the upper attached to a lower, I placed the rifle on the deck. With my right foot on the Ergo Grip, I cranked up on the TD vertical grip in an attempt to cause deflection. I am happy to say that I could not cause the rail to spin before the Ergo Grip snapped in two.
Its rock solid!
Soooooooooooo, who's got one yet? :D
latino83
10-08-2007, 12:19 PM
It hasnt been released yet from what I heard.
Hawkeye
10-08-2007, 12:31 PM
Is there anything on the rail that I'm missing that helps prevent any rotation issues, or is it just relying on pressure from the screws to the from of the barrel nut and from the rail pressing against the rear of the barrel nut?
rob_s
10-08-2007, 12:43 PM
That's all I see too Hawkeye. Although it's really all that's holding on their standard M4 rail as well, and I've never had an issue with those either.
Hawkeye
10-08-2007, 01:18 PM
That's all I see too Hawkeye. Although it's really all that's holding on their standard M4 rail as well, and I've never had an issue with those either.
I agree. No issue, just wondering if I was missing anything.
rob_s
10-08-2007, 01:30 PM
I agree. No issue, just wondering if I was missing anything.
I actually thought the exact same thing when I first saw it. I would also like to hear the official DD answer.
Stickman
10-08-2007, 01:51 PM
Soooooooooooo, who's got one yet? :D
.................. :)
czydj
10-08-2007, 06:15 PM
Very True. I also had the rail mounted on an upper with a TD vert grip on the lower rail. With the upper attached to a lower, I placed the rifle on the deck. With my right foot on the Ergo Grip, I cranked up on the TD vertical grip in an attempt to cause deflection. I am happy to say that I could not cause the rail to spin before the Ergo Grip snapped in two.
Its rock solid!
That is some kind of destructive product testing... I like it! :D
Eric Rice
10-24-2007, 11:50 AM
I actually thought the exact same thing when I first saw it. I would also like to hear the official DD answer.
As stated above. The hand guard literally becomes a barrel nut wrench when installed. You'll only have rotation if your barrel nut rotates. If that happens, you have bigger problems. An Omega Rail installed on a properly tourqued barrel nut will not rotate.
Anyone have theirs yet?
latino83
10-24-2007, 09:34 PM
Got one from Grant and I'm loving it. THANKS GRANT A++++++++++
Steve
10-24-2007, 09:47 PM
I had a chance to finger one in ohio of recent that Eric had with him,
it took about 3 minutes to put it on my smith wesson mp.
great gear for sure,
Eric Rice
10-24-2007, 09:53 PM
I had a chance to finger one in ohio of recent that Eric had with him,
it took about 3 minutes to put it on my smith wesson mp.
great gear for sure,
Speaking of that, e-mail me your shipping info, Bro...
EmanP
10-25-2007, 03:17 PM
What's the weight on one of these with all associated parts?
GIFFMANN
10-25-2007, 03:26 PM
What's the weight on one of these with all associated parts?
Mine weighed at 7.3 ounces. This is the rail and the screws to attach the bottom rail. Does not include Delta Ring.
Giff
C4IGrant
10-25-2007, 04:27 PM
Omega with Delta ring assembly, barrel nut and HG cap is an even 10 ounces.
C4
C4IGrant
10-25-2007, 04:47 PM
As stated above. The hand guard literally becomes a barrel nut wrench when installed. You'll only have rotation if your barrel nut rotates. If that happens, you have bigger problems. An Omega Rail installed on a properly tourqued barrel nut will not rotate.
Anyone have theirs yet?
Yep! :D
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Daniel%20Defense/7%200%20Omega%20on%20LMT%20side%20view.jpg
DialTone301
10-25-2007, 05:06 PM
Is there going to be a mid length version? If so when will it be available?
EmanP
10-25-2007, 05:12 PM
Man, that is light, thanks.
Eric Rice
10-26-2007, 10:22 AM
Is there going to be a mid length version? If so when will it be available?
Yes.
No ETA, but soon. :D
DialTone301
10-26-2007, 10:25 AM
Thanks for the info.
Steve
10-26-2007, 11:05 AM
Speaking of that, e-mail me your shipping info, Bro...
Inbound.
Steve
10-26-2007, 11:08 AM
I was really impressed with how light and easy that rail was to install and how it matted up to my gun.
only question..... why did it take so long to be made,.
Stickman
10-26-2007, 03:15 PM
I was really impressed with how light and easy that rail was to install and how it matted up to my gun.
only question..... why did it take so long to be made,.
Next question, who is going to copy it....
Shihan
10-26-2007, 05:38 PM
Next question, who is going to copy it....
Samson:eek:
I'm certainly impressed by the light weight, definitely a plus!
Grant, we need to get you a better camera bro :p
Mine is in, thanks Grant!!
This rail is great, no mods to the rifle, installed in 10 minutes, free floating, reasonably priced, and a high quality product made in the U.S. of A.
What more can you wish for.
Only thing left on the AR15 list is a 1:7 barrel, but I don't think I will ever shoot heavier than 69gr out of this S&W pea shooter.
I hereby consider the AR15 project finished.... :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/tx_dutchman/Rifles/AR15/DSC03853.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/tx_dutchman/Rifles/AR15/DSC03854.jpg
Steve
10-26-2007, 10:10 PM
Awesome for sure,
cant wait to get one.
Shihan
10-27-2007, 03:14 AM
I hereby consider the AR15 project finished.... :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/tx_dutchman/Rifles/AR15/DSC03853.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/tx_dutchman/Rifles/AR15/DSC03854.jpg
Now your ready to start on a new one:p
Stickman
10-27-2007, 03:40 AM
Shihan,
Highly doubtful.
Shihan
10-27-2007, 06:21 AM
Shihan,
Highly doubtful.
You must know something I dont. Everytimt I buy a new one I swear its going to be my last.
C4IGrant
10-27-2007, 10:21 AM
I'm certainly impressed by the light weight, definitely a plus!
Grant, we need to get you a better camera bro :p
Really? It is a 5M Sony and I have Adobe CS SW for editing. I always think my pics turn out very well, but no where as nice as Stick's stuff though.
C4
rob_s
10-27-2007, 11:26 AM
If a midlength is in the works, anyone know what it may be likely to fit over in terms of low-profile gas blocks? From the pic DD posted on the first page of this thread, it appears that the Omega sits very close to the barrel. Anyone have an muzzle-back pic yet?
Doesn't look like it would even fit over DD's own gas block (http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/browse&category=gasblocks), but we might get lucky and get it to fit over the Noveske (http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=gb750ss2&cat=9&page=1&search=&since=&status=) and/or Larue (http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=45) versions.
http://www.danieldefense.com/img/raildimscomp.gif
Code3Patriot
10-27-2007, 02:04 PM
Does anyone know if it will fit a Vltor MUR-1 upper without modifications? I'm a little wary after finding out LaRue rails don't fit the MUR-1.
Gun Runner
10-27-2007, 02:20 PM
I hereby consider the AR15 project finished.... :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/tx_dutchman/Rifles/AR15/DSC03853.jpg
If it's "finished" then what is the rail system for?
Rails are for mounting stuff on, you have nothing on your's, and you declare it "finished"??
If it's "finished" then what is the rail system for?
Rails are for mounting stuff on, you have nothing on your's, and you declare it "finished"??
Well, I consider the rifle itself finished. I got the rail to avoid the hand-guard barrel contact and rail mounted accessories can always be added later. Maybe a little cool-aid slipped in here and there, but not too much :D
This rifle is currently used for paper punching, shooting cans, horse apples, etc., and is the SHTF rifle for my SO. The FAL was just too intimidating for her small frame, making her not wanting to shoot it.
Gun Runner
10-27-2007, 03:16 PM
I got the rail to avoid the hand-guard barrel contact.
Why do I always forget this is a free floater? :)
That's reason enough to get one, mine should be in next week.
Eric Rice
10-27-2007, 11:36 PM
If a midlength is in the works, anyone know what it may be likely to fit over in terms of low-profile gas blocks? From the pic DD posted on the first page of this thread, it appears that the Omega sits very close to the barrel. Anyone have an muzzle-back pic yet?
Doesn't look like it would even fit over DD's own gas block (http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/browse&category=gasblocks), but we might get lucky and get it to fit over the Noveske (http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=gb750ss2&cat=9&page=1&search=&since=&status=) and/or Larue (http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=45) versions.
Rest assured, we wouldn't build a rail that would preclude the use of our own products.
While the Omega Rail does fit over lo-pro gasblocks, that really isn't the focus of the features of this hand guard.
Nice rifle Rik.
Eric Rice
11-16-2007, 12:37 PM
Omega is up on Brownell's site with a nice description.
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=24634
Any questions about the 7.0 that are out there? Anyone break one yet? ;-)
rob_s
11-16-2007, 12:56 PM
Rest assured, we wouldn't build a rail that would preclude the use of our own products.
While the Omega Rail does fit over lo-pro gasblocks, that really isn't the focus of the features of this hand guard.
Nice rifle Rik.
Noted.
I was asking for a specific application, which was someone that was buying a 14.5" Noveske barrel with a permanently attached muzzle device, and was curious to know if the longer rail would fit over it.
rob_s
11-16-2007, 01:02 PM
I do have kind of an odd question...
Is the Delta ring actually needed? In other words, if you have a barrel without a delta ring, can you still install and use the Omega?
scottryan
11-16-2007, 01:15 PM
They need to continue the angle on the bottom of the cantilever that goes over the delta ring. This would make this portion of the rail stiffer.
They also need to do away with the scallop cuts on the edge of the rails. Other than that, it is perfection
scottryan
11-16-2007, 01:16 PM
I do have kind of an odd question...
Is the Delta ring actually needed? In other words, if you have a barrel without a delta ring, can you still install and use the Omega?
I was wondering that myself.
I would just leave the delta ring off, if I was doing a build from ground up if this is true.
C4IGrant
11-16-2007, 01:50 PM
I was wondering that myself.
I would just leave the delta ring off, if I was doing a build from ground up if this is true.
Delta ring is not needed, but looks horrible if you leave it off. It also creates a possible burn hazard.
C4
scottryan
11-16-2007, 03:00 PM
Delta ring is not needed, but looks horrible if you leave it off. It also creates a possible burn hazard.
C4
That is what I was wondering. How much of the barrel nut does it cover? Probably as much as a regular handguard, just the teeth?
C4IGrant
11-16-2007, 03:04 PM
That is what I was wondering. How much of the barrel nut does it cover? Probably as much as a regular handguard, just the teeth?
The majority of the barrel nut is exposed and I had the thought that I could fit my thumb in there (on a reload) and burn it real bad.
C4
markm
11-16-2007, 03:41 PM
I see brownells just sent out a NEW PRODUCT email featuring this rail system.
scottryan
11-16-2007, 05:52 PM
The majority of the barrel nut is exposed and I had the thoughr that I could fit my thumb in there (on a reload) and burn it real bad.
C4
I agree.
Jack_Stroker
11-17-2007, 02:41 AM
Well my Daniel Defense Omega rails just came in today. Super easy to mount, very high quality, nice and light. I just can't say enough good things about them.
rhino
11-17-2007, 09:56 AM
I was unable to resist the peer pressure.
My DD Omega should be here early next week.
Wayne G.
11-19-2007, 04:52 PM
tag..
rhino
11-19-2007, 07:46 PM
My DD Omega arrived today (thanks, Grant!).
I won't waste your time with an assessment of how well I like it because 1) I have no experience for a comparison, 2) most people don't care what I think.
I will say that it was incredibly easy installing it. It took me longer to get my flashlights mounted on it where they "feel good" than it did to install the Omega. The hardest part was when I dropped one of the screws ... it took me a while to find it on a dark rug. :D
And to illustrate just how easy it really is, keep in mind that I am so inept with tools that I have inspired multiple city ordinances barring me from using any tool that is motorized or that can harm a vertebrate. Even I was able to do it! It's that simple and the instructions are clear and concise. It says that all you need is the included allen wrench and a flat blade screwdriver ... and that's all you really need. I did use a tool I have for holding the delta ring back, but it could have been done without it.
It feels a lot more solid than my original M4-style handguards with a piece of cheap picatinny rail bolted to the lower half. I also think that if the Omega is heavier than that combination, it's not by much. Oops ... I'm starting to talk about how I like it. Sorry.
Now I just need to find some k00l kIDz locally so they can approve me to sit at their table at lunch for a couple of days. :D
jmoore
11-19-2007, 10:27 PM
My DD Omega arrived today (thanks, Grant!).
I won't waste your time with an assessment of how well I like it because 1) I have no experience for a comparison, 2) most people don't care what I think.
I will say that it was incredibly easy installing it. It took me longer to get my flashlights mounted on it where they "feel good" than it did to install the Omega. The hardest part was when I dropped one of the screws ... it took me a while to find it on a dark rug. :D
And to illustrate just how easy it really is, keep in mind that I am so inept with tools that I have inspired multiple city ordinances barring me from using any tool that is motorized or that can harm a vertebrate. Even I was able to do it! It's that simple and the instructions are clear and concise. It says that all you need is the included allen wrench and a flat blade screwdriver ... and that's all you really need. I did use a tool I have for holding the delta ring back, but it could have been done without it.
It feels a lot more solid than my original M4-style handguards with a piece of cheap picatinny rail bolted to the lower half. I also think that if the Omega is heavier than that combination, it's not by much. Oops ... I'm starting to talk about how I like it. Sorry.
Now I just need to find some k00l kIDz locally so they can approve me to sit at their table at lunch for a couple of days. :D
I have to agree with everything Rhino said. Quick service from Grant, easy installation (even for a techo-idiot like me), rock solid yet liightweight system, with the longest part of installation being the tightening of the hexhead screws.
Nice knowing I'll have plenty of options mounting a light and perhaps VFG.
rhino
11-25-2007, 03:48 AM
Okay . . . if you're irritated by (potentially) stupid questions, you are warned to skip this message.
I've got my Omega installed. I also have a handful of those nifty "ladders" that I know I'm supposed to use to protect the exposed/unused portions of rail.
I've never used them, but from photos and such I assumed they would be softer and more flexible. These are rigid and it's not obvious to me how to get them "installed." Do they slide on from the end? Do you just press really hard and they pop into place? Do I need a biga** hammer?
Thanks for advice on how to get tab A into slot B.
EmanP
11-25-2007, 04:23 AM
I just got a whole slew of them and one of them was extremely hard and rigid. Not soft and pliable at all and I had to send it back. Could be that you got a bad one, set?
donr101395
11-25-2007, 05:08 AM
Okay . . . if you're irritated by (potentially) stupid questions, you are warned to skip this message.
I've got my Omega installed. I also have a handful of those nifty "ladders" that I know I'm supposed to use to protect the exposed/unused portions of rail.
I've never used them, but from photos and such I assumed they would be softer and more flexible. These are rigid and it's not obvious to me how to get them "installed." Do they slide on from the end? Do you just press really hard and they pop into place? Do I need a biga** hammer?
Thanks for advice on how to get tab A into slot B.
Just line up the slots and push hard. Once you get one end started they go on easy. They are much more rigid than the other ones I have used.
QuickStrike
11-25-2007, 09:27 AM
Okay . . . if you're irritated by (potentially) stupid questions, you are warned to skip this message.
I've got my Omega installed. I also have a handful of those nifty "ladders" that I know I'm supposed to use to protect the exposed/unused portions of rail.
I've never used them, but from photos and such I assumed they would be softer and more flexible. These are rigid and it's not obvious to me how to get them "installed." Do they slide on from the end? Do you just press really hard and they pop into place? Do I need a biga** hammer?
Thanks for advice on how to get tab A into slot B.
Yeah, they are kinda tough to snap in.
I found that by pressing down where you want it to snap in AND wiggling it into place on the other end works really good...
Rmplstlskn
11-25-2007, 01:06 PM
Waiting for a 9" mid-length OMEGA...
DD need any beta-testers? :D
Rmpl
Glockster35
11-25-2007, 01:32 PM
If they are hard, and not pliable, try heating them with a hair dryer first, this should make them a bit more pliable.
I had several that were a real pain to install, and I pulled out my heat gun, and now they are much better!
rhino
11-25-2007, 11:18 PM
Thanks for all of the advice!
Now I'm just concerned that after I cut them and install them I'm going to change my mind about where I want everything located. :D
rob_s
11-26-2007, 09:43 AM
Okay . . . if you're irritated by (potentially) stupid questions, you are warned to skip this message.
I've got my Omega installed. I also have a handful of those nifty "ladders" that I know I'm supposed to use to protect the exposed/unused portions of rail.
I've never used them, but from photos and such I assumed they would be softer and more flexible. These are rigid and it's not obvious to me how to get them "installed." Do they slide on from the end? Do you just press really hard and they pop into place? Do I need a biga** hammer?
Thanks for advice on how to get tab A into slot B.
What I do....
Hook the ladder on the top portion of the rail.
Put my fingers on the "rungs" to apply pressure in toward the rail.
Hook my thumb-tips under the edge of the ladder and pull down.
The combination of pulling slightly with the thumbs to get as much stretch as possible, and pushing in with the fingers to cause the edges to bow out usually gets it.
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