Pistol Point of Aim/Point of Impact

[panzerr]

So I noticed today at the range that the point of aim/point of impact on my M&P with newly installed Warren Tactical sights lies underneath the tritium front dot. I'm not so much a fan. I prefer the POA/POI to be just above the front sight post so I can see what the crap I am shooting at. This got me to wondering what you all prefer and why?

[skyugo]

my glock 19 and HK p7 both hit right behind the dot on the front sight. I prefer that. For one thing i didn't buy these guys to shoot bullseye, so lining it up so that the bullseye is right over my sight isn't really what i'm doing. I think it makes more sense to my lizard brain to set the dot where i want the hole.

as with anything else, your mileage may vary.

[panzerr]

my glock 19 and HK p7 both hit right behind the dot on the front sight. I prefer that. For one thing i didn't buy these guys to shoot bullseye, so lining it up so that the bullseye is right over my sight isn't really what i'm doing. I think it makes more sense to my lizard brain to set the dot where i want the hole.

as with anything else, your mileage may vary.

I can relate to that.

I am no bulls-eye shooter either. I only care about making hits anywhere on an 8" circle at distance.

[Shawn.L]

Pistols are like rifles, only less dramatic and it gets less airplay (unless your concerned about hitting bullet holes at 3 yards and X rings at 25........)

So, depending on your sights and height over bore and individual gun you need to shoot that gun and see where it hits at what range.

My G17 with Hack sights hits at the dot inside 5, and is just over the tip of the post at 25.

[1581zebra]

A few years back I put an Ashley Express ghost ring, and trit front post on my guide gun, and promptly adjusted the sights so that POI was above the post- happy with the precision I could get from her. Imagine my surprise a year or two later when I took a shot at a deer in light just low enough to see the trit dot better than the post, and hit him in the spine instead of the lungs. Who knew? I readjusted the sights to put POI under the dot. I didn't think about that when I adjusted them the first time- I'm glad the deer didn't suffer for my dumbassness. I'll take all my short range guns with the holes under the dot, thank you.

[Magsz]

Pistols are like rifles, only less dramatic and it gets less airplay (unless your concerned about hitting bullet holes at 3 yards and X rings at 25........)

So, depending on your sights and height over bore and individual gun you need to shoot that gun and see where it hits at what range.

My G17 with Hack sights hits at the dot inside 5, and is just over the tip of the post at 25.

This.

I believe warrens are a six o'clock hold past 7 yards. I THINK Mr Warren designed them this way on purpose to make headshots at 15 yards a little easier.

I might be talking out of my rear end so someone correct me if im wrong.

I know that my Warren sights on my Glock 19 shoot this way.

[montrala]

I prefer to have POI under dot at some 10-20yard, then have POI (area) cut in half by top of front sight at some 27yard (25m). This is how I set up my pistols (either by adjustable sights, exchanging sights height or even using file on them).

ISSF target shooters prefer to have POI over POA to keep sights on white background under black zone. This makes keeping proper sight picture easier. This way you aim for small strip of white between top of the sights and bottom of black zone.

For dynamic (IPSC/IDPA/USPSA) or combat use this is irrelevant, so POI is usually somewhere around top of front sight or, since sights started to have "dots" of different type, around this dot.

Also remember that different ammo bullet weight and velocity will move POI up or down, so for one ammo POI is under dot, for other just at front sight and for other "pumpkin on the post" target style.

[boomhower]

I am under the dot fan fan. To me it's just more natural to have the dot on the target. So much so I replaced the sight on my AR with a dot.

[skyugo]

I'm rather surprised us "under the dot guys" are in the minority. it seems like every stock service pistol shoots under the dot. :confused:

[Greg Bell]

Under/behind the dot. Faster for me, and easier for me to keep my focus on the front dot.

[Joe R.]

I prefer point of impact to be one to two inches high at 25 yards.

[vicious_cb]

I prescribe to the "shoot the dot" method at 7 yards which works for most of the pistols Ive shot.

[nobody knows]

I prefer over front sight post. I like my shots where i can see them.