paulosantos
10-28-2007, 12:14 AM
I tried this once before and I didn't get too much interest. I really like the ACOG's but the one thing that really bugs me is the fact that there are no reticles that really match the 6.8SPC, 6.5Grendel, or even the 556 with the 75 or 77 Gr. bullets. I have the Horus Talon scope and the nice thing about the reticle is that it is not caliber specific. Now if Trijicon could combine the ruggedness of the ACOG and the non-caliber specific reticle like the Horu Talon, I would consider an ACOG.
I spoke with a representative from Trijicon today and in order for Trijicon to be able to make an ACOG with this type of reticle, they would require about 1,000 people to be interested in an ACOG with a custom reticle. Another way it can be done is if a dealer is interested and can be the middle man in that respect.
So if anyone is interested in an ACOG with a custom reticle like mine or something similar, just sedn E-mails to info@trijicon.com. Just keep in mind that even if we get 1,000 people, it will take over a year to finally get the scopes done. So please, if you are interested send them E-Mails.
I have drawn up a reticle based on the ACOG TA01 reticle and it is not caliber specific. It is based on the Mil-Rad System (Or whatever it is called.). Below are the pics and the center line is the zero line and each large line underneath is 1Mil marks and the smaller lines in between are .5 Mil marks.
DAY
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f376/paulosantos/ACOGDay.jpg
NIGHT
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f376/paulosantos/ACOGNight.jpg
Just an example on the trajectories for the 6.8SPC:
Ammo: Hornady 110 Gr. V-Max.
Velocity: 2550fps.
Zero: 100 yards.
100 Yards: 0 Mil.
200 Yards: -0.6Mil.
300 Yards: -1.5Mil.
400 Yards: -2.6Mil.
500 Yards: -4.0Mil.
600 Yards: -5.6Mil.
Here is the reason I don't like the ACOG reticles:
I put in the calculations on the ACOG TA01NSN scopes, which are calibrated in METERS for the M855 bullet which has a BC of .304 and velocity of 2900fps out of a 14.5" barrel.
Here are what the lines represent in Mils.
100 Meters: o Mils.
200 Meters: .5 Mils.
300 Meters: 1.3 Mils.
400 Meters: 2.5 Mils.
500 Meters: 3.9 Mils.
600 Meters: 5.6 Mils.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f376/paulosantos/untitled-1.jpg
Now if you look at my eample using the 6.8 ammo, it is pretty close:
Ammo: Hornady 110 Gr. V-Max.
Velocity: 2550fps.
Zero: 100 yards.
100 Yards: 0 Mil.
200 Yards: -0.6Mil.
300 Yards: -1.5Mil.
400 Yards: -2.6Mil.
500 Yards: -4.0Mil.
600 Yards: -5.6Mil.
Now, what if I I have a target that is 250 yards away (1 Mil), where is my holdover now? With a Mil-type reticle, it is much easier and more accurate?
When I spoke with the Trijicon representative, his main concern was who would be buying an ACOG like this? And we both agreed that it would be the civilian shooters like the 3-gunners, Hunters, and target shooters, who would buy these ACOG's. The problem is getting 1,000 people to want these and they will definitely make them.
The reticles above would be for a TA01 type ACOG which cost around $990.00. I also have a different version which would be for the TA31 type ACOG's and the reticle would look something like this:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f376/paulosantos/ACOGDonut.jpg
So if anyone is interested, just send Trijicon an E-Mail indicating you are interested. Thanks guys.
I spoke with a representative from Trijicon today and in order for Trijicon to be able to make an ACOG with this type of reticle, they would require about 1,000 people to be interested in an ACOG with a custom reticle. Another way it can be done is if a dealer is interested and can be the middle man in that respect.
So if anyone is interested in an ACOG with a custom reticle like mine or something similar, just sedn E-mails to info@trijicon.com. Just keep in mind that even if we get 1,000 people, it will take over a year to finally get the scopes done. So please, if you are interested send them E-Mails.
I have drawn up a reticle based on the ACOG TA01 reticle and it is not caliber specific. It is based on the Mil-Rad System (Or whatever it is called.). Below are the pics and the center line is the zero line and each large line underneath is 1Mil marks and the smaller lines in between are .5 Mil marks.
DAY
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f376/paulosantos/ACOGDay.jpg
NIGHT
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f376/paulosantos/ACOGNight.jpg
Just an example on the trajectories for the 6.8SPC:
Ammo: Hornady 110 Gr. V-Max.
Velocity: 2550fps.
Zero: 100 yards.
100 Yards: 0 Mil.
200 Yards: -0.6Mil.
300 Yards: -1.5Mil.
400 Yards: -2.6Mil.
500 Yards: -4.0Mil.
600 Yards: -5.6Mil.
Here is the reason I don't like the ACOG reticles:
I put in the calculations on the ACOG TA01NSN scopes, which are calibrated in METERS for the M855 bullet which has a BC of .304 and velocity of 2900fps out of a 14.5" barrel.
Here are what the lines represent in Mils.
100 Meters: o Mils.
200 Meters: .5 Mils.
300 Meters: 1.3 Mils.
400 Meters: 2.5 Mils.
500 Meters: 3.9 Mils.
600 Meters: 5.6 Mils.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f376/paulosantos/untitled-1.jpg
Now if you look at my eample using the 6.8 ammo, it is pretty close:
Ammo: Hornady 110 Gr. V-Max.
Velocity: 2550fps.
Zero: 100 yards.
100 Yards: 0 Mil.
200 Yards: -0.6Mil.
300 Yards: -1.5Mil.
400 Yards: -2.6Mil.
500 Yards: -4.0Mil.
600 Yards: -5.6Mil.
Now, what if I I have a target that is 250 yards away (1 Mil), where is my holdover now? With a Mil-type reticle, it is much easier and more accurate?
When I spoke with the Trijicon representative, his main concern was who would be buying an ACOG like this? And we both agreed that it would be the civilian shooters like the 3-gunners, Hunters, and target shooters, who would buy these ACOG's. The problem is getting 1,000 people to want these and they will definitely make them.
The reticles above would be for a TA01 type ACOG which cost around $990.00. I also have a different version which would be for the TA31 type ACOG's and the reticle would look something like this:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f376/paulosantos/ACOGDonut.jpg
So if anyone is interested, just send Trijicon an E-Mail indicating you are interested. Thanks guys.