aimpoint knock off

[monkeywrench]

Can a person by looking at the knock off tell the difference between the two?

[Shihan]

Its tough with some of the new ones that I have seen. Make sure to buy from someone reputable and not ebay.

[Lumpy196]

Buy it from a dealer you can trust and you dont have to worry if it's an Airsoft knockoff.

[subzero]

Can a person by looking at the knock off tell the difference between the two?

In a word, no.

You can lessen the margin when buying used if the used Aimpoint comes with the box and all of the paperwork (warranty cards and such). From what I have seen, the knockoffs haven't yet progressed to the point where they mimic the Aimpoint packaging.

[Nathan_Bell]

In a word, no.

You can lessen the margin when buying used if the used Aimpoint comes with the box and all of the paperwork (warranty cards and such). From what I have seen, the knockoffs haven't yet progressed to the point where they mimic the Aimpoint packaging.

Don't give the scum any ideas

[PushPull]

Yes / Sometimes.

The most common and best forgery I have seen to date has a few things to look for:

1. "Aimpoint" will be written in white on the side of the sight and on the flip covers.

A real Aimpoint will have the logo laser inscribed (NOT STAMPED) and then anodized over in black. I have seen one fake where the logo was stamped in and then painted over in black.

Real Aimpoint flip covers are raised lettering out of the black plastic itself.


2. The fake has the markings "Comp M2 4 MOA". Below that on the sight it will have an incorrect part number "10338". They also all have the same serial number "240944". 10338 is the part number for a Comp ML2

These are the correct part#'s for Aimpoint sights.

10336 = Comp M2 4MOA
10338 = Comp ML2 4MOA

3. On fakes the windage and elevation adjustments look like small sheet metal screws.

A real Aimpoint will have adjustment screws with slots for an adjustment tool cut all the way across the top of the screw spanning the entire inside diameter of the adjustment turret. Assuming you have the on/off switch at the two o'clock position for a right handed shooter, the top turret adjustment screw for elevation will be marked "UP-L" and the windage turret adjustment screw on the right side will be marked "UP-R". These markings will be on the screws not on the turret.

4. The on/off switch on the forgeries fell like &^%!@ and are pretty stiff. Some also keep rotating through the last position back to off.

Real Aimpoint sights have clean breaking and very distiguished indexing. ALL Comp M2, ML2, M3, ML3, Comp C3 and 9000 series sights have 10 positions including the off position. All Aimpoint switches stop at the last setting.

5. Aimpoint DOES NOT and never has made a green dot.

I have heard people paying upwards of $250 for the forgeries. Don't let the price tag make you think it is a real Aimpoint.

EBay? = Let the buyer beware.

If you suspect you are looking at a fake you probably are. There are many Authorized Aimpoint Dealers to purchase from. Don't trust your life to a knock off. The reliability of the knock off's are very bad.

Please call us if you have any questions about Aimpoint products.

1-877-246-7646

[Failure2Stop]

Post above is better than mine.

[Shihan]

Here are the new fakes I spoke about earlier.

http://www.airsoftvanguard.com/index.php?p=6&id=154&new=&cat2=0&cat1=19&cat0=12&lang=en

http://www.airsoftvanguard.com/index.php?p=6&id=543&new=&cat2=0&cat1=19&cat0=12&lang=en

[Paulinski]

It makes me mad just thinking how people can blatantly copy someone else's design/product :mad:

[PushPull]

Oh yeah...all Aimpoint sights are made in SWEDEN by people who actually care about your safety.

[markm]

Wow!

I had no idea how bad this had become.

[ddemis]

And a knock off of the Acog too, what a bunch of swindlers, probaly made in china they make most of the fake products on the market today.

[C4IGrant]

Hmmm, now where can one find an authorized Aimpoint dealer???

The knock off thing is off the chart. What makes me really mad is when people believe when they are equal to the real deal and start fights about it on certain forums.



C4

[ddemis]

I wonder if Aimpoint or Trijicon can do anything to stop airsoft from selling and advertising those products. The web can be a hard place to control with all the Pirating going on.

[twodollarbill]

Leupold has posted a "Counterfeit Mark 4 Riflescope Warning" on their website.
They know that counterfeits are a big problem for us and them.
Leupold tracks their scopes by serial number, so if you find one for sale
from someone you don't know, you can call them to confirm it's the real deal.
I used this service on my last M1 16x I bought on the internet, I'm glad I did.

[czydj]

Glad I never found that site...

[nationwide]

It makes me mad just thinking how people can blatantly copy someone else's design/product :mad:

There's a market for it :rolleyes:




Just not in MY safe! ;)

[User Name]

[QUOTE=ddemis;91891]I wonder if Aimpoint or Trijicon can do anything to stop airsoft from selling and advertising those products.

In the US absolutely. Not in China or Japan (the countries of origin) where I believe the copyright law's don't apply. I have an airsoft "Colt M4" with identical proofs as a real one that I ordered from overseas. They are great training aids if used properly. Much cheaper obviously than Simunitions sp?. I'd personally rather see knock off quality equipment for airsoft training than not. Though I would be just as happy if it did'nt say "Aimpoint" so that people would not be dooped by fake Aimpoints sold as the real deal. Just my 2 Cents.

[Boom]

Hmmm, now where can one find an authorized Aimpoint dealer???

The knock off thing is off the chart. What makes me really mad is when people believe when they are equal to the real deal and start fights about it on certain forums.



C4

Oh God please don't let that start again. :D

[supertac]

Yes / Sometimes.

The most common and best forgery I have seen to date has a few things to look for:

1. "Aimpoint" will be written in white on the side of the sight and on the flip covers.

A real Aimpoint will have the logo laser inscribed (NOT STAMPED) and then anodized over in black. I have seen one fake where the logo was stamped in and then painted over in black.

Real Aimpoint flip covers are raised lettering out of the black plastic itself.


2. The fake has the markings "Comp M2 4 MOA". Below that on the sight it will have an incorrect part number "10338". They also all have the same serial number "240944". 10338 is the part number for a Comp ML2

These are the correct part#'s for Aimpoint sights.

10336 = Comp M2 4MOA
10338 = Comp ML2 4MOA

3. On fakes the windage and elevation adjustments look like small sheet metal screws.

A real Aimpoint will have adjustment screws with slots for an adjustment tool cut all the way across the top of the screw spanning the entire inside diameter of the adjustment turret. Assuming you have the on/off switch at the two o'clock position for a right handed shooter, the top turret adjustment screw for elevation will be marked "UP-L" and the windage turret adjustment screw on the right side will be marked "UP-R". These markings will be on the screws not on the turret.

4. The on/off switch on the forgeries fell like &^%!@ and are pretty stiff. Some also keep rotating through the last position back to off.

Real Aimpoint sights have clean breaking and very distiguished indexing. ALL Comp M2, ML2, M3, ML3, Comp C3 and 9000 series sights have 10 positions including the off position. All Aimpoint switches stop at the last setting.

5. Aimpoint DOES NOT and never has made a green dot.

I have heard people paying upwards of $250 for the forgeries. Don't let the price tag make you think it is a real Aimpoint.

EBay? = Let the buyer beware.

If you suspect you are looking at a fake you probably are. There are many Authorized Aimpoint Dealers to purchase from. Don't trust your life to a knock off. The reliability of the knock off's are very bad.

Please call us if you have any questions about Aimpoint products.

1-877-246-7646

The inside diameter of the sight is smaller and the glass has a bluer hue on most knockoffs. I bought a rifle once that had one on it. The clonepoint was not paralax free like they advertise, it had poor quality glass, it didn't hold zero, overall, a POS...

[Harv]

Lumpy196

Buy it from a dealer you can trust and you dont have to worry if it's an Airsoft knockoff.

WOW... there is an incredibly simple and easy idea to follow instead of spending hours analyzing poor quality web site pictures and comparing minute details in the hopes of not getting burned .especially if your a cheap ass and are hoping that the $150 deal you found REALLY is a real Aimpoint and not a knock off...

I have no sympathy for any one who get's burned on one.. cause there is a easy way to avoid it.. see above...

[jjw]

we are a large aimpoint dealer and obviously they are the best in the world with eotec a match depending on personal preference. i use both, i like both

we also sell a aimpoint CLONE making no effort to label it a aimpoint. It called a S.P.O.T. and its great for entry shooter, spares ,games guns, etc. it is clearly labeled a s.p.o.t. and make no representations as being an "aimpoint"

we sell a ton over (600 units) in 3 years and use it my self on a lot of"toys" only had 4-5 fail BUT i would never consider it a serious o.t.d. gun or a real deal guys usage. i have 1 on a beretta sotorm 9mm and have 5,000 rds on it.
before that ken hackathorn used it on a lot of uns all the way up to a sniper rifle. when i took the line on i gave 2 to ken hackathorn and he is using it to this day, he changes around a lot but , he still uses the 2 i gave him.

never buy from anyone u don't know (eBay-etc) this unit retails for 139.00 and is worth every penny. hope i am not stepping on anyone's toes, there is a lot junk out there. good inexpensive red dots are out there.

jjw (b.l. farley) and yes i am in the equipment business so be aware. i just wont sell junk.

www.odspec.com

good luck

[Chris_C]

The support for these clones at the TOS is really starting to grow and gain support from unexpected ppl.

[jjw]

pardon the obvious what is tos ???? web site, company, etc

tks in advance

jjw (b.l. farley)

[Submariner]

pardon the obvious what is tos ???? web site, company, etc

tks in advance

jjw (b.l. farley)

The Other Site (arfcom).

[bushy]

I bought a comp M2 and it has the etched M2 ont the side and a 10 position switch of which the first 3 or 4 don't show the dot I am assuming this is for NVG....The only thin is the scope covers are not the flip ups they are scope caps...Is this a real Aimpont set up?

[Damascus]

I bought a comp M2 and it has the etched M2 ont the side and a 10 position switch of which the first 3 or 4 don't show the dot I am assuming this is for NVG....The only thin is the scope covers are not the flip ups they are scope caps...Is this a real Aimpont set up?

Can you post some pictures of it? And, how much did it cost? New or used? Is the red dot crisp and round, or is it "blurry' and reflects red light around the edges? All the knockoff's I've handled (all M4 copies) looked almost identical on the outside, but were a lot lighter, and you could tell immediately that it was fake as soon as you looked at the glass.

[IroquoisSnakePlissken]

For slightly more, or even of equal cost, you could get an RDS from a reputable manufacturer, with a real warranty, and a name they will stand behind.

Steer quite clear of the bogus sighting systems. They will leave you burned.

Additionally, the money you saved on buying the bogus optic will not be a savings when said optic is replaced thricefold due to shock destruction, water damage, etc. As well, the bogus optic will eat batteries like a ravenous Ranger, further increasing operating cost. You would spend more in batteries in one year than the difference in buying a real Aimpoint, which, once purchased, can be red-loctited onto your rifle, since your blaster will break before that Aimpoint does...

Last, but certainly not least, the Aimpoint is made by Vikings...in Sweden. These motherfuckers have been munching pork and lighting Hadji up since 800 A.D. Support the Vikings, not sweatshop labourers, slaving away in dank Commie dens, assembling cheap-o optics held together with electrical tape.

You get what you pay for. My policy is to divde the cost of my rifle by a factor of 3, and spend that amount on an optic. If you have a $900 gat, drop 3 bills on a scope.

There's a saying that Americans will put a $100 scope on a $1000 rifle, and Europeans will put a $1000 scope on a $100 rifle.

[bushy]

Thanks for all of the great info. it has been quite an education and I feel like a dumbass for buying it on sleezebay but, as it turns out, it is the real deal I took it to a local gun shop and several guys looked at it and confirmed that it is real but it certainly has not been worth the anguish i put myself through buying it and then wondering for so long. Not that it was such a great deal but where I bought it worried me. This is the first time I have ever bought something like this from anything but a pro and I wont be doing it again and I count myself very lucky and I do love it it is a really nice sight it works great for my eyes. I am interested in trying out an ACOG or an Eotech 512/552 or the like. Does anyone have 1 for sale or trade. Thanks again.