CoryCop25
02-01-12, 23:50
I figured that if anyone was interested in this new product from Battle Arms Development, they could come right here and read what the customers that already have them are saying about them first hand.
I have had a prototype CASS 3P SA 90 degree selector for quite some time. Here is a link to my review of the 90 degree selector.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=82735
Yesterday, I received my production CASS 3P SA-ST selector. Here are my initial observations....
There was no packaging so I will not be able to report on that issue. I am certain that it will be the same packaging as the other products and will come with detailed instructions as necessary.
Finish was second to none just like all of the other Battle Arms Development products. I am not a machinist, but a friend of mine is. He works for Bosch. He has stated that the items that I have shown him were some of the finest pieces of machining that he has seen.
The levers that I have are the standard, short and long thin. All of the dovetails fit together perfectly. As Duffy has stated before, they are hand fitted after finishing.
My initial idea was to install the new CASS 3P SA-ST on my main rifle. Unfortunately, the Timney trigger that I use on that rifle does not cooperate with the selector. I am sure it has something to do with how the Timney trigger is installed in the lower. When you insert the trigger and hammer pins, you tighten down two set screws that lifts the trigger off of the base of the receiver and tightens the trigger mechanism to the pins. I believe that this puts pressure on the selector and makes it harder to select. DON'T LET THIS TURN YOU AWAY FROM THE SELECTOR! I will explain.
As I said, I installed this on a lower with a Timney trigger. I also use the short/short lever combination on all of my rifles. I found that the CASS 3P SA-ST has a VERY positive select from safe to fire and back. The use of the short levers has less leverage than using any of the longer levers. I swapped out other centers and levers and the stiffness was partially the Timney trigger but mostly the short levers. I did about a hundred cycles of the safety and managed to get a blister on the top of my trigger finger from switching to safe. I re installed my existing standard 45 degree selector with short/short levers on my main rifle and moved the new CASS 3P SA-ST to my Recce rifle.
This rifle is on a Noveske lower with a Giessele SSA trigger. Again I chose the short/short lever combination. This combination of safety and trigger felt better. Due to the very positive "clicks" on the safety, the use of the short/short combination was again a bit stiffer but a little more manageable than the other rifle. The CASS 3P SA-ST will now live on this rifle. I was working on the rifles this evening so I did not have good light to take any photos so I will post some later.
To sum up my initial observations of the CASS 3P SA-ST selector, I will have to say that the quality and craftsmanship is second to none as expected from Battle Arms Development. My suggestion is to use a different combination of levers than short/short when using this safety. If you are stuck on the short/short combination like I am, stick with the standard short throw safety. Either way, the BAD A.S.S. line of selectors are second to none.
I have had a prototype CASS 3P SA 90 degree selector for quite some time. Here is a link to my review of the 90 degree selector.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=82735
Yesterday, I received my production CASS 3P SA-ST selector. Here are my initial observations....
There was no packaging so I will not be able to report on that issue. I am certain that it will be the same packaging as the other products and will come with detailed instructions as necessary.
Finish was second to none just like all of the other Battle Arms Development products. I am not a machinist, but a friend of mine is. He works for Bosch. He has stated that the items that I have shown him were some of the finest pieces of machining that he has seen.
The levers that I have are the standard, short and long thin. All of the dovetails fit together perfectly. As Duffy has stated before, they are hand fitted after finishing.
My initial idea was to install the new CASS 3P SA-ST on my main rifle. Unfortunately, the Timney trigger that I use on that rifle does not cooperate with the selector. I am sure it has something to do with how the Timney trigger is installed in the lower. When you insert the trigger and hammer pins, you tighten down two set screws that lifts the trigger off of the base of the receiver and tightens the trigger mechanism to the pins. I believe that this puts pressure on the selector and makes it harder to select. DON'T LET THIS TURN YOU AWAY FROM THE SELECTOR! I will explain.
As I said, I installed this on a lower with a Timney trigger. I also use the short/short lever combination on all of my rifles. I found that the CASS 3P SA-ST has a VERY positive select from safe to fire and back. The use of the short levers has less leverage than using any of the longer levers. I swapped out other centers and levers and the stiffness was partially the Timney trigger but mostly the short levers. I did about a hundred cycles of the safety and managed to get a blister on the top of my trigger finger from switching to safe. I re installed my existing standard 45 degree selector with short/short levers on my main rifle and moved the new CASS 3P SA-ST to my Recce rifle.
This rifle is on a Noveske lower with a Giessele SSA trigger. Again I chose the short/short lever combination. This combination of safety and trigger felt better. Due to the very positive "clicks" on the safety, the use of the short/short combination was again a bit stiffer but a little more manageable than the other rifle. The CASS 3P SA-ST will now live on this rifle. I was working on the rifles this evening so I did not have good light to take any photos so I will post some later.
To sum up my initial observations of the CASS 3P SA-ST selector, I will have to say that the quality and craftsmanship is second to none as expected from Battle Arms Development. My suggestion is to use a different combination of levers than short/short when using this safety. If you are stuck on the short/short combination like I am, stick with the standard short throw safety. Either way, the BAD A.S.S. line of selectors are second to none.