What's the worst that could happen if you ccw?
I heard today that Starbucks is taking some heat for allowing people to carry in their stores. More accurately, just refusing to not allow it.
My question is, if you can carry legally in your state but some store decides to put a rule against it, what could happen? They ask you to leave? Get you for trespassing if you refuse? No way their "rule" could trump any state or federal law right?
Re: What's the worst that could happen if you ccw?
M-K is right. The law varies by state. In WI, signs have force of law. In other states, they may not. Similar to having a duty to notify an LE upon a traffic stop. In WI, you don't. In MI, you do. Best to know each state when traveling through.
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What's the worst that could happen if you ccw?
First off, if you're carrying "concealed" they should never know. If they do happen to see you they will more than likely ask you to leave. If you don't leave, you would definitely risking a trespassing charge. If you're a squared away individual, most people will never notice anything. If you're one of those, "look at me! I'm making a statement! I'm going to videotape my coffee drinking experience to put on YouTube!" kind of guys...YMMV.
What's the worst that could happen if you ccw?
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Moose-Knuckle
Every state has their own laws on the matter.
For instance here in TX . . .
Keep in mind that the section describing "proper signage" is pretty detailed. Any sign they post has to comply or it's not valid.
What's the worst that could happen if you ccw?
They seem to be giving conflicting information on their website. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, if you're licensed to carry you may do so in an establishment that's liquor sale make up less than 50% of their business. If its over 51% it would be a felony, but the sign would require large red letters. The devils in the details.
http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/laws/sign_requirements.asp
OP it goes without saying you should know your state laws. A Starbucks and a state run liquor store are slightly different. I would imagine they don't want you rolling into the DMV packing heat either.
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Moose-Knuckle
What's the worst that could happen if you ccw?
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rocsteady
My question is, if you can carry legally in your state but some store decides to put a rule against it, what could happen? They ask you to leave? Get you for trespassing if you refuse?
A business can ask you to leave for pretty much any reason. It's their business. Regardless why a business might ask you to leave, you must comply or you are trespassing.
As for CCW, as M-K notes, state law varies. Here in WA state, signs have no legal weight. Basically they are "we don't like your kind" signs. I'll note that even in the very liberal metropolitan Seattle, I've VERY RARELY seen a no firearms sign (aside from legaly required areas like bars).
In most cases, I think Starbucks takes heat because *open* carry. If you think about it, nobody protests the 99.99% of other places that don't post. It is only a problem for them due to the activism on both sides.
-john