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12-01-17, 12:56
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Guy who shoots pistol in home, expecting it to be less loud:

“MAWP....MAAWP”
12-01-17, 13:11
usmcvet

Listen to Clint Smith's short video. https://youtu.be/_APnhoIYeD0

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12-01-17, 13:17
MistWolf

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Originally Posted by 26 Inf

...I've always found the the unsuppressed 9 or .45 to be more pleasant than the suppressed AR. It could be that my Omega just sucks, though.

I have a couple of suppressed shorties in 5.56. Both have an Omega with the 22 caliber flat cap. I find their report much more comfortable than from an unsuppressed 9mm or 45 ACP or any standard unsuppressed centerfire pistol caliber.

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Originally Posted by Diamondback

The first question we need to ask is Expected Maximum Engagement Range. If we're looking at a range outside of about 300 yards necessitating magnified optics, fixed front sights become a liability, but for unmagnified use their simplicity as "one less moving part to fight with" becomes an advantage. Whether that fixed sight is a rail-mount on a free-float or a Front Sight Base gas-block is up to user preference, though rail-mount does allow you to place the sight closer to the muzzle using more of the total length for sight-radius.

Iron sights are a matter of opinion. I shoot a shorty out to 300 yards or more using just an Aimpoint Micro. I don't use a magnified optic because I don't want the extra weight on either shorty. Neither shorty uses iron sights because a front sight interferes with mounting a flashlight in the 12 o'clock position. I've been running an Aimpoint Micro for a few years, fair weather, cold weather, rain, sleet and snow. Not once have I ever said to myself "Boy, am I glad I have BUIS!" Usually, my thought has been "I could see better without that damned front sight in the way!"

With iron sights, a 1/3 lower co-witness mount works better than an absolute co-witness mount. When looking through an RDS, I can see better with the 1/3 lower co-witness mount because I can look over the front sight for a less cluttered view.

The above is just my personal experience and is subjective. The inclusion of BUIS should be based on the needs, wants and preferences of each individual which will evolve with experience. Present the pros and cons and let your readers decide for themselves.

Below, is the real reason I want to respond to your post-

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2. Shorter barrels require different buffer systems than normal to operate reliably; depending on length requirements the Vltor A5, Geissele Super 42, or PWS H2+Sprinco Blue buffer systems are your best choices.

Shorties don't need special springs or buffers. They need, like any other AR, a balanced operating system. One of the softest shorties I've fired uses a carbine RE, H buffer and Colt carbine spring and that's with a suppressor. The reason it shoots soft is because the gas flow is right. It would be a disservice to your readers to have them thinking shorties need special buffers or special springs, when all any AR needs is a balanced operating system and quality springs.
12-01-17, 13:18
Diamondback

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Originally Posted by RVTMaverick

Hey Diamondback,
I'm just wondering WHY,... why are you writing this, for this group of people you mentioned?
Is there a goal to try and turn these peps or? Again, just wondering.... Also, the way you wrote (or I read it, Scary LOL) all the information seemed very well informed, much more so than Me... Which leads me say, I must misunderstood the whole thing I guess... I was taking the write up as, more or less, a How To/Suggestions for Builds.... Then as I am reading the replies You already have received, I realized I completely Missed the Boat. :confused::suicide2:

Mainly, it's because a lot of these people see me as "That Gun Guy Friend to ask for free advice"... since several have been starting to get curious about AR pistols of late, I was thinking to start them with a "primer," not so much a "detailed cookbook." I figure more in-depth followups can be future pieces, since I'm usually shooting for 600-800 word length a week. Some of these people are craftsman-types in other hobbies, so I wanted to do something a little better for their DIY and "personal touch" streaks than "buy a stripped lower and a DD Mk 18 URG, slap on an A5 buffer system plus Concussion Reduction Device and grip of choice, BOOM, done."
12-01-17, 13:30
grizzlyblake

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Originally Posted by usmcvet

Listen to Clint Smith's short video. https://youtu.be/_APnhoIYeD0

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I sure don't walk through my house with my pistol held straight out like Clint was doing. Neat demo, but not exactly accurate. Even just shooting on a square range I am much tighter than that with my rear sight no more than 12" away from my nose.

I'm also not very concerned about a home invasion. In this area we generally only see armed home invasions to an occupied house if the house is a drug house or there is some other activity warranting that behavior. It's being out amongst the general public that's shaky.
12-01-17, 15:53
RHINOWSO

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Even just shooting on a square range I am much tighter than that with my rear sight no more than 12" away from my nose.

Like this tactical guru??? :D

Tight. :p

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12-01-17, 15:58
26 Inf

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Originally Posted by MistWolf

I have a couple of suppressed shorties in 5.56. Both have an Omega with the 22 caliber flat cap. I find their report much more comfortable than from an unsuppressed 9mm or 45 ACP or any standard unsuppressed centerfire pistol caliber.

Would the 22 caliber flat cap make that much difference? 223/556 seems sharper to me.
12-01-17, 17:00
Outlander Systems

That's a General.

10/10 Dude's a champion. If he's getting hits and qual'ing with his Joes, who gives a **** if hes not tactical turtling like Chris Coastie?

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Originally Posted by RHINOWSO

Like this tactical guru??? :D

Tight. :p

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12-01-17, 17:38
RHINOWSO

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Originally Posted by Outlander Systems

That's a General.

10/10 Dude's a champion. If he's getting hits and qual'ing with his Joes, who gives a **** if hes not tactical turtling like Chris Coastie?

Plenty more fail in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc-pQH9GSxA

But it was more of a comment to the brah who puts his pistol 12" in from of his grape than a dig on how horrible Army (and .MIL) pistol training is. Rock solid, I'm sure he kills it with recoil management! :D
12-01-17, 18:38
MegademiC

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Originally Posted by grizzlyblake

I sure don't walk through my house with my pistol held straight out like Clint was doing. Neat demo, but not exactly accurate. Even just shooting on a square range I am much tighter than that with my rear sight no more than 12" away from my nose.

I'm also not very concerned about a home invasion. In this area we generally only see armed home invasions to an occupied house if the house is a drug house or there is some other activity warranting that behavior. It's being out amongst the general public that's shaky.

You shouldn’t be clearing a house with the gun shouldered and pointing straight out either.

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