I shot a chrono the other day with my buddy and I absolutely loved it. Cant remember the name but it was the size of a tablet with a circle on top for aiming to target. No wires, no taking off your can, the simplest chrono on planet earth and it was just awesome. Just sit beside gun and point to target and it reads the data.
Well my friend said buy the Garmin its just as good and much smaller and cost less. His was a grand. The Garmin is $600.
Anyone used one of these and have feedback?
PB
A caller to the Gun Talk Radio show had a great range report on one he bought.
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000637363443
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There's a big thread on The Hide about these...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pappabear
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting...graph.7189898/
-Rainman
That was a pretty thing endorsement from the Hide.
PB
I have the more expensive Andi-Scan that preceded the Garmin unit by about a year and it works fantastic. Glad I found it before plopping down dollars on that huge lab radar crap which would have been just one more large thing to lug around with my gear.
https://hkguns.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-...94893830-5.jpg
The Garmin looks to be a similar form factor.
These are wonderful devices and labradar is obsolete just like that..... Plop them on a small tripod or rail attach and you're never without a chronograph. This one literally fits in your front pocket.
I've never missed a shot with this one.
With the Garmin at a cheaper price point and available in the US, you're going to see a lot of those labradars up for sale real cheap, real soon.
They’re getting great reviews on Sniper’s Hide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pappabear
Small enough to mount to the rifle if you want to. Area 419 is making an ARCA rail mount, and some other company is making a pic rail clamp you could mount to a diving board scope ring cap.
Very cool bit of kit, on my list for next year.
Here is what I have been told by a couple of guys that have them.
They are , easy.to use. Seem to be just as accurate. Small.
But if you want data, Labrador is the way to go. They gather and organize data better
Garmin uses some proprietary PIT files.
I haven't used one side by side yet.
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Just a matter of time until someone makes a nice phone app to work with the Garmin for all your data logging and organizing needs.
Garmin has a bluetooth app for that already. It's called Shotview, free and works as advertised. It threw me at first because it doesn't transfer data until after you end the session. I'm happy with the setup. just stick kinda pointed down range and it works. aiming isn't critical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coal Dragger
Papa, you'll be happy with it.
Data fields are MIN/MAX, ES, STD DEV, each shot high/low from Delta AVG. If you put in the bullet weight, it'll do KE and power factor for you.
Anyone looking for a lightly used MagnetoSpeed V3? :)
The bigger the chrono, the sweeter the juice.Quote:
Originally Posted by HKGuns
The Garmin arrived, heading out to test it today. We delayed our shooting hour since its 32 degrees at our hide this am.
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http://i.imgur.com/Aw8Murn.jpg
Test shot with air rifle :
http://i.imgur.com/8GRL8is.png
Range report to follow
PB
I'm going to end up in Chronoholics Anonymous.
Mine arrives today. I am pretty stoked to get out to the range with it.
Anyplace special that stocks this Garmin Chronograph or a good place to pick one up online/in-store? Looks like everyone is out for 3-5 weeks.
Edit found in-stock at Walls Rifles from Hide discussion.
So, what's the scoop on those things guys? I'm sure they work but are there any irregularities or early issues? I have looked at them from the start so I'm just wondering. I have a couple of old-school Cronos and they work fine, it's just the setup that's a pain, which only takes 10min or less. Thanks for any info.
With this chrono you can get every round fired at every target from every gun. Just move the chrono so it's pointed where your target is and bingo.
We're figuring stuff out that we'd NEVER have known. Which barrels are quirky/have tight chambers, etc.
I’ve used Oehlers, CEDs, LabRadar, and now the Garmin. I can’t speak to accuracy because I have no way to calibrate the unit but the readings are within 7-10 fps of the LabRadar and generally the same difference on each shot. It may be due to where each unit starts reading the bullet velocity. It’s very small and easy to set up in seconds. It’s also very easy to use. It’s incredibly reliable in picking up each shot and not particular about being precisely pointed. It also picks up everything I’ve tried so far which is high velocity rifle, handgun, and 22lr. I’m especially happy that it works well with suppressed guns. I had an aftermarket trigger for the LadRadar that worked with suppressed guns but it was a little wonky. I almost always shoot at home so I don’t know how well it works at ranges with multiple shooters. So far this is one of those rare pieces of gear that seems too good to be true but really is that good.Quote:
Originally Posted by m1a_scoutguy
Thanks, guys, for the info. I have been looking at these and they seem pretty cool and much easier than my old-school standard cronos. Not a big deal but I wonder if they would work inside? I have a Caldwell with LED attachments that I use @ our indoor range this time of year for handgun stuff. Not critical warm weather is only 3 months away in my area, LOL Seems like more places are getting them in stock, just looking for the best deal. Thanks again.
I used mine at an indoor 25 yard range a couple days ago. I was against the left wall, there was one empty lane on my right, and a shooter in the 2nd lane over. All my shots were recorded, and no extras.
I’m sure I’ll end up placed between two occupied lanes soon enough.
No experience indoors but when I’m feeling extra lazy I shoot by the side of the house to get a quick velocity and only have about 12-15 yards to get a reading. No problems.
This is what Garmin says about shooting indoors:
Using the Xero C1 Pro Chronograph at an Indoor Shooting Range
Using the Xero C1 Pro Chronograph at an indoor shooting range can present some challenges not present outdoors. Indoor ranges can mean lots of other shooters nearby, reflective surfaces, possibly other electronics nearby, and therefore more noise that the chronograph may appear to be analyzing. Below are some helpful tips that can be used to help improve your results.
-Ensure you have your chronograph set to the appropriate speed range for your firearm and ammunition. Changing ammunition, suppression, etc., may require changing your setting.
-Ensure the target is sufficiently far enough away for the chronograph to be able to register the speed correctly.
-If users of multiple bays nearby are not centered in their bays they may actually be too close. A separation of at least 5 feet is preferable.
-Shooting too quickly together.
-Try moving the chronograph left, right, forward, back, up, down.
Cool, good info. My bonus is that the range I go to is a private one and if I was shooting indoors, I would be the only one shooting so there shouldn't be any interference. Maybe a slight adjustment here or there but seems like it will work if I need it. Well, I was all ready to go buy one @ GovX website, it was $591.00 shipped when I put it in the cart last week but now out of stock, oh well. Maybe I'll wait or more than likely I'll go snoop around and see if there are any deals out there. Thanks again for the info.Quote:
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