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We are talking about THREE versions.Quote:
Originally Posted by 96 SS
Carbine "as imported" = neutered crap (modified magazine well for 10 round ONLY magazine).
There are TWO versions of the pistol, both make nice SBRs or in the case of the 94P a fine 922r carbine.
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Originally Posted by KTR03
Wouldn't you end up with an unregistered SBR (10" barrel) every time you removed the can to clean things?
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Originally Posted by sadmin
CORRECT. The 94P has a standard magazine well that accepts high capacity magazines. The AT 94 A2 does NOT. So you could do it two ways.
1. Start with the AT 94 A2 Carbine and make a compliant domestic semi (922r) which will allow you to modify the magazine well for high caps.
2. Start with the AT 94P pistol and make a compliant domestic semi (922r) carbine and there is no need to modify the magazine well.
In both cases you will end up with an identical 16" barrel 922r carbine. Starting with the pistol is easier and cheaper. The last picture in the OP is one of the pistol versions (AT94P) as a semi auto carbine.
I wish they made a full size pistol version with a 3 lug barrel.
YES..Quote:
Originally Posted by scottryan
That's the only reason keeping me from wanting to pick one up.
I've been eying this thing for some time now, but the price and the lack of a full size pistol has had me looking elsewhere. I managed to find a 94 clone for sale on gunbroker for a decent price and when it gets here I'll test it out. Although I am not suggesting that it will be better than the MKE.
It is really nice that you are doing this review because there seems to be a niche market for these clones. I also like this community and it's good to hear different opinions compared to other sites that specialize in HK.
That said, I really want a UMP to go with the 94 now...
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Originally Posted by Thomas M-4
Agreed.
As it sits now, the full size MP5 is too much work to get a proper gun.
If it came with a 3 lug factory barrel I would buy one or more.
Can't figure out how someone who bashes SIG about their quality can stand to OWN a Turkish copy of the MP5. With all the garbage you guys spew about QUALITY and TIER1 manufacturers, isn't this a bit hypocritical? Why don't you just get a real MP5?
You guys know they aren't being imported any longer, only 1 batch made it into the USA before being cut off. What about spares? HK parts will not work in them.
You guys do know that the rifle versions cannot take high cap mags? Did you also know the lower is welded to the stock? You have to do a lot more work on these than they are even worth. Get a real HK.
Hey Man,Quote:
Originally Posted by SteyrAUG
Don't want to hijack your thread, so we can continue this on PM if you'd like...but its "what all the cool kids" in WA state are doing. Basically the permanently attached Sleeve looks like a longer version of a Noveske pig. As long as it is permanently attached its part of the barrel it counts towards overall length. That way when you go out of state to use the can you can put it in and shoot quietly. When you are at the range in WA, you shoot it loud without the can. Although, our laws look like they are about to change, in which case cans will be good to go bu the summer.
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As to the other constructive response about why don't you get a real MP5, its because I dont want to spend 4 grand on one, and frankly if styer aug says these are good to go, that is good enough for me.
Made on HK tooling? Takes collapsible stocks? Paddle mag release? Roller locked?
I'm interested.
It's not like I'm going to make it FA anytime soon.