Real nice work Steyr. Despite your somewhat rough initial few days here, there was little doubt that you'd be a great fit eventually.
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Real nice work Steyr. Despite your somewhat rough initial few days here, there was little doubt that you'd be a great fit eventually.
:D
I think there will eventually be hope for you as well.
:D
Seriously, the first day somebody should have simply told me it wasn't arfcom and explained the difference. I'm still not sure exactly what constitutes a "professional" GD post, but I seem to be getting by.
There are 4 SARs. 3 are Greek HK contract, one is a US clone.
1. The SAR 3 (basically identical to the 91)
2. The SAR 3/8 overstamp (same rifle but with a 8 stamped over the 3).
3. The SAR 8 (thumbhole stock and pressed on fake flash hider)
4. The SAR 8 (non Greek production, aluminum receiver)
The SAR 3 and 3/8 overstamp have a removable flash hider. Only the thumbhole stock SAR 8 is pressed on.
Since you are talking about a paddle mag and refinish anyway, might as well use a SAR 8 if you can find one and have the pinned on flash hider removed and replaced with the correct one.
Of course price and what becomes available will be your main criteria.
The 3/8 overstamp guns weren't even pinned on, just a muzzle nut.
I've owned real HK 91's and Greek G3 and SAR 3/8, and there honestly was no discernible difference in quality.
Another HK smith to look at, who I know personally and have shot his work on machine guns, is Mike @ TSC.
http://www.tscmachine.com/
Most of the pictures I'm finding of SAR 8's show an odd shortened muzzle device like this one.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=224672261
Some show what looks like the correct muzzle device without the ports machined out. I found one SAR that may be an overstamp since it seems to have the proper hider on it. If I do go for the SAR-8, I'll end up saving alot of cash I can use to have it refinished and add the paddle as well. I'm just getting hung up on the whole Real German vs. Licensed by situation. I'm not totally concerned with the collector value but it is great to say I'd have an original German version. It's cool to say I have one that matches my lineage too though. I guess since they both seem to be great rifles, I'll just decide based on cost, condition and the somewhat on collector value as well.
Just realized you're in NY, so you need either a real HK, Springfield SAR-3, or Pars G3S, or one that's already been debanned.
I'm exempted from all that absurdity as an LEO and only have to worry about it when I'm ready to retire. At that point I'll be ready to move out of state anyway. My concern at this point is to get a rifle that's as close to the real deal and in as close to excellent condition as possible, barring cosmetics. After hearing from you and Steyr, I'm leaning towards the SAR since it is a contract rifle and I'm sure I and my father will get a kick out of it being Greek made. Chances are it'll be somewhat newer and hopefully in better condition. And I won't feel guilty refinishing it and adding a paddle to it. The website you linked mentioned having it converted to a G3 with refinishing and stamping the receiver as well. Is it ok to use a full auto carrier in it, since it's advertised on the site as an option? Not sure what's legal with this particular design.
Those prices were to convert to a machine gun....might want to shoot Mike an email and ask about unbanning a SAR-8.
Some of Mike's work.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EASA97e5Cpg