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Due around May.
Price: $1900 MSRP
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Due around May.
Price: $1900 MSRP
What were your first impressions?
I did get to shoot it.
It takes a slightly different approach to the concept than other designs such as the AUG. It also has some similarities.
The ejection can be changes from right to left hand side. This is nothing new.
The charging handle can be moved to either side of the rifle (AUG can't do this).
When it's fired from the left side (right hand configuration) the brass deflector sends spent cases forward. There is no chance of it hitting your face.
Mag release is a trigger like device in front of the magazine. It's very easy to use. My concern is that a sling or mag pouch might cause an unintentional mag release, but I've not confirmed this as I had neither a sling or chest rig available.
The bolt release is brilliantly simple. Push the new mag in, push up with your thumb (already in position) and boom, the bolt rides home with a new round.
The trigger pack is tiny and sits just behind the magazine well. It can stay in the rifle when you remove the bolt. It requires two pins to be pushed out (captive) to drop the trigger pack.
The flip up sights are integrated into the 1913 rail. The front sight has tritium.
The front handguard is removable and rails can be installed.
It will be released as a 5.56 but a 9mm conversion kit will be immediately available as well. You can change calibers yourself.
The barrel is a quick release barrel.
It will have QD mounts front and rear and on both sides.
7.2lbs empty.
Decent trigger, not your typical bullpup mushy, creepy trigger. Not a match trigger, but a solid military trigger.
Recoil is about what you would expect. The balance of the rifle is nearly perfect, you can keep this rifle shouldered and in the ready position much longer and more comfortably than a rifle like the M4.
Overall, I'm impressed. I think it has the potential to be the best bullpup on the market. I'll reserve judgement until I get my own copy to bang around on.
Due around May. Price is said to be $1900 MSRP. Expect a street price to be less than that once the dust settles from the initial release.
Plant is up and running, employees hired, production starting. Just waiting on the ATF and some licensing issues.
I want, any idea who will be distributing these rifles?
Fugly.
No chance I'll ever buy it unless it was extremely fun to shoot.
I really like the Tavor, but of course I'm somewhat biased. The two biggest complaints that people in Canada have had with the Tavor are the LOP (for some) and the trigger (there's actually a spring you can remove in the trigger unit that softens it up a bit). Our version comes with an 18.5" barrel which is not as accurate as the 16" one. A few of us have the factory IWI CTAR 15", which is an absolute riot and very accurate to boot.
The great news for the US Tavor is that you're getting a polished design care of your neighbours to the north (think of us as your resident beta testers :)). The flat top is actually the second generation, which also features a redesigned bolt and firing pin that addressed an issue with slam-fires when using commercial grade primers.
We're looking forward to the X95.
Where is this rifle manufactured?
BUIS look flimsy.
I am excited to see this come about. As a guy who ran an issued AUG-P bullpup for several years all I can say is until you've spent some time behind one you just don't understand the advantages the platform brings to the game. I figured these would ring in around 2K, I am hoping that there might be a packaged optic too. May isn't really that far away and I am anxious to see this hit shelves.
Different model, same concept.
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i highly doubt many people will add this to their collection for $1900 :suicide:
I agree.
When you consider that other quality non-AR, non-AK options out there are $2000+ on the shelf (SCAR, FS2000, AUG A3)... and none of them have the cachet of being the new Israeli hotness. And the SCAR 17S is nearly $3000 and FN still can't keep up on them.
Going to be selling fast enough to keep the Canadian shelves on back order for a while.
I just think it's great the people are working to make available things like this and the Steyr AUG. I don't think there will be a problem selling the Tavor.
I highly doubt you are correct.
How many people own more than one $1000+ AR?
How many people own $1500+ AR's?
How many people own multiple $500+ pistols?
How many people own 5.56 rifles with a $2000+ cost?
Now add optics, accessories, and stamps to the above guns and you can easily hit $3,000+ for a single AR.
This isn't even including the cost of large caliber semi autos or quality bolt guns...
You talk about adding this to a collection, this IS a rifle to add to a collection.
If you decide to add an umarex pistol to your "collection" instead of this, great... that means more availability for the rest of us.:D
Most of us paid in excess of $3,000USD in Canada for ours. Lead times from the time we ordered were about 6 months, it took almost a year for IWI to release a modified bolt - and replacement parts are not easy to source.
I'm not saying there's not a lot to like with a $1,900USD price tag and being nationally-manufactured, just that there's an awful lot to like. :D
The Tavor isn't for everyone - it's either a "love it" or "hate it" kind of impression, and AR purists are usually the worst when it comes to finding fault and nitpicking. However, if you love black rifles and the fun of trying out new toys - this is truly one to add to your collection.
I shot one last week in Canada and I like it; it is a Bullpup of course and the USA is not the most Bullpup friendly country but from the limited time I had with one I would say it is one of the best of its type on the market today
Looking forward to seeing them here in the states
LAV
I like the looks of the Tavor, I think it will sell, especially if the price comes down a little. I have seen pics of the IDF model and I think I saw a fold into the hand guard bipod. I am probably wrong. I will be eagerly reading the first user reports here in the US.
Should have the 18" barrel. This is going to be another screwed up assault rifle on the US market, that is going to follow all the SCAR, ACR, SG556, HK MR556, Beryl, etc
I doubt your understanding of the firearms industry and niche markets.
As far as the Tavor goes, I really hope this actually makes it across the finish line in its current form and price point. I have my doubts, but am hopeful that I am wrong. It looks like it could be an outstanding pup at a great price. If proven reliable, it would make an excellent truck gun with a Micro, SF and VCAS on it.
I don't know a lot about bullpups, but in my experience they do offer a very compact shooting package without sacrificing barrel length. It does look like achieving an ambi WML solution might be difficult... MA, any thoughts on that?
I love bullpups and the Tavor is one that I have been waiting for for quite a while. A compact, reliable rifle is what I prefer for work (currently using an A3 AUG, but would love to use a Tavor).
Who will manufacture the barrel and are its specs identical to the military production? I ask since the AUG A3 is a major competitor and is using a very nice FN barrel.
Looks great, I've been waiting for these things for years. I'm definitely looking forward to getting my hands on one.
I have, and will be trying to counsel Scottryan about imported assault rifles, and markm about LWRCi.
I will post results here for lols.
If you'd like some counseling for your feelings about SIG, toss me a PM.
Our convorsations will be confidential, but your progress reports will be posted. :neo:
Looks like this will be my first bullpup rifle! I better save up for it now and stash the money away.
Question for those who shot both Tavor and FN2000: How the they compare recoil wise? Is the tapped short stroke piston of the FN smoother than the long stroke piston of the Tavor?