BATFE! What kind of operation are you guys running? E-form/E-file is un-useable.

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Originally Posted by HD1911

Thanks for the clarification!

Maybe I could ask a couple more questions then, since you guys are on a roll.... If I were to do a Form 1 SBR with an existing lower I already have, I won't have to go through a Class 3/SOT Dealer correct? just have the Lower Engraved before I put a less-than-16" upper on her, once I've gotten the Tax Stamp back?

Also, once you have that Form 1 SBR Lower, can I then, say, have 3 different 10.5" uppers laying around, even though I have just that one SBR Lower... while still having 16" and 18" Rifles around in close proximity?

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Correct. There's no dealer involved when you file a Form 1.

Multiple uppers are fine with a registered lower.

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Originally Posted by BigWaylon

Correct. There's no dealer involved when you file a Form 1.

Multiple uppers are fine with a registered lower.

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Sweet. So I can buy a carbine Milspec lower, have it shipped to my FFL, take it home after 4473, submit my Form 1 Trust via E-File and pay $200 Tax Stamp, and while waiting for it to get approved, send off lower to be Engraved (engraving a must?)... then once approved, order an SBR Upper, slap it together and I'm good to go? That simple? Out of order on events at all?

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Originally Posted by HD1911

Sweet. So I can buy a carbine Milspec lower, have it shipped to my FFL, take it home after 4473, submit my Form 1 Trust via E-File and pay $200 Tax Stamp, and while waiting for it to get approved, send off lower to be Engraved (engraving a must?)... then once approved, order an SBR Upper, slap it together and I'm good to go? That simple? Out of order on events at all?

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All looks good to me.

Two notes:
1. Remove the question mark from "engraving a must?"
2. You could go ahead and file the F1 in EForms once you get the S/N when buy it...might save you a week or more, instead of waiting until you pick it up from FFL

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Originally Posted by BigWaylon

All looks good to me.

Two notes:
1. Remove the question mark from "engraving a must?"
2. You could go ahead and file the F1 in EForms once you get the S/N when buy it...might save you a week or more, instead of waiting until you pick it up from FFL

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Copy that, must engrave. Either side of Magwell is ok, I assume?

Would it be bad juju to have a 10.5/11.5" upper sitting here waiting for Form 1 approval?

Statutes states "conspicuously placed" on frame, receiver, barrel or pistol slide (if applicable). Most common locations are:
1. Right side over trigger pins
2. Right side of magwell
3. Front if magwell
4. Under trigger guard/around trigger hole

ATF Ruling 2013-3 spells it out fairly clearly.

The legal answer is don't have it around unless you have a legal configuration pistol lower or SBR lower. Not that anybidy would condone your behavior, but if you order it and don't post about it, who would know?

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Originally Posted by BigWaylon

Statutes states "conspicuously placed" on frame, receiver, barrel or pistol slide (if applicable). Most common locations are:
1. Right side over trigger pins
2. Right side of magwell
3. Front if magwell
4. Under trigger guard/around trigger hole

ATF Ruling 2013-3 spells it out fairly clearly.

The legal answer is don't have it around unless you have a legal configuration pistol lower or SBR lower. Not that anybidy would condone your behavior, but if you order it and don't post about it, who would know?

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Rodge-o. Thanks for all your help. Much appreciated, sir.

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