What does remanufactured ammo mean?
Is it safe to use for plinking?
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What does remanufactured ammo mean?
Is it safe to use for plinking?
Remanufactured means the ammo is once fired hence reloads. If the company that made the ammo has a good rep it should be fine. But be warned there are several companies that make mistakes. If you do not know where the ammo came from be careful when shooting it.
You can also reload your own ammo
Black Hills remanufactured....top notch.
Georgia Arms remanufactured....decent plinking ammo.
Maine Cartridge.........run, run away.
ONLY REMAN I use is Black Hills only I love there Blue Box 77gr and 75
Hell I like them all!
Dont buy ULTRAMAX for your Nice M4
Back in the day to keep it cheap I would buy M193 or Q3131 by Winchester
you can buy surplus M193 Like IMG
I found the IMG to be pretty good stuff and it shoots just like the Q3131
Use caution when buying remanufactured ammo. In my experience remanufactured ammo blows up *a lot* more firearms than new factory ammo.
I had a .45 remanufactured round from Houston Cartridge Company blow up a Les Baer Thunder Ranch Special 1911. And spent the better part of a year getting Houston Cartridge Company to take responsiblity for their double charged round.
Last year I went through 6,000 rounds of Georgia Arms Canned heat in .223. Good ammo, so I thought...... Earlier this week I received an email showing pics of a destroyed AR15 (upper receiver excessively bulged, bottom of magazine blown out the bottom, etc) caused by the G.A. Canned Heat .223. From the pics my guess would be that the round was double charged. This was the 3rd or 4th kaboom I had seen using the G.A. Canned Heat .223 in the last couple months.
Generally I stay away from remanufactured ammo. The ONLY exception now being the Black Hills Blue Box (remanufactured ammo).
The few dollars you save by using remanufactured ammo will NOT replace your firearm if the remanufactured ammo blows up your gun.
I am with USMC03, I have spent too much money on my Black Rifles to blow it up saving a $1.00 a box on cheep manufactured ammo. It just ain't worth it to me. I have been using XM193 from Lake City for the last four years with years with no problems what so ever. It is not the cheapest but I have the security knowing that I am feeding my rifles one of the best cheep ammo that can be had.
I hadn't heard about the Kabooms with GA canned heat 5.56mm.....good to know, thanks!
A few weeks ago I fixed a RRA rifle that had catastrophic case failure. It blew out the side of the case upon extraction. Luckily only the magazine, bolt, cam pin, and firing pin was the only damage.
I still have about 1000 rounds of canned heat left. I bought it about 4 months ago I also hear that HSM is GTG they have a pretty good rep and will make you any kind of load you can think of. I know there was a group buy of this stuff on that other site. http://thehuntingshack.com/
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Originally Posted by Templar
I never heard of ANY problems with Georgia Arms remanufactured .223 (heard of a few problems with their reman .308 and pistol cailbers...no kabooms, just potential problems due to the brass that was use, bullets seated too far back, etc, etc.) until the last few months.
When I place a large group order of .223 Canned Heat back in late 2004, I asked the gal about any problems. She told me that they had never had one of their rounds blow up a rifle (I take this with a grain of salt because Ultramax and Maine Cartridge Company will tell you the same thing). She went onto state that they have a $1 million insurance policy and that if anything did go wrong with one of their remanufactured round they would replace / repair the firearm and any damage caused to the shooter.
I have not heard any further info as to how Georgia Arms has treated the customers that have had the Canned Heat ammo blow up their guns. Hopefully Georgia Arms is taking steps to correct the problem and will make things right with the shooters that have damaged guns due to their ammo.
Yet another reason to stay with quality American made new manufactured ammo.
USMC03 - can you share any of the links/pics on canned heat kabooms?
I was just looking at that ammo recently.
Thanks in advance.
I don't have links. 2 of them were emails that I have since erased.
Sorry
I have 850 rounds of Wolf left from my inital ammo buy when I purchased my new AR.
After the 850 rounds of Wolf is gone I will be on the Lake City train and I ain't getting off.
Knightstar- the "X" in XM means that the particular lot was rejeceted. A while back it could have been for cosmetic reasons- lately it seems like there are many other varied and serious issues for rejection, showing a lack of QC.
We had issues with a lot of XM193. We sent it back to the factory. It tested out at 62kpsi. That is like firing an almost proof load everytime you press the trigger.
Any time you shoot anything with an "X" you are rolling the dice. You have had good luck (as have i in the past), but i an very cynical when it comes to guns and ammunition.
I sell BH ammo as a service to students attending my classes, so i am biased.
However, i sell it because it is the best i have seen.
DON'T buy that crap...Quote:
Originally Posted by ArchAngel
Mace
This is very surprising to hear about Canned Heat. I have shot at least seven or eight cases of it in the past twenty-four months with absolutely no issues. My only problem with it was the price hikes considering it is remanufactured. I stopped buying it because of this. I was willing the pay slightly more for new ammo.
It was a great deal when it was relatively cheap.
This is the only XM193 I will buy I stay away from anything packed in a loose carton. I have been through over 5000 rounds with only one round being not seated deep enough. I would love to shoot only Black Hills ammo but as much as I shoot it is not cost effective to do so. Just giving my recommendations from a load I use with good results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat_Rogers
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Knightstar- the ammo in question came from an identical box- different lot number- not loose.
Shoot what you wish- i am only relating what i personally observed from an agency that purchased 10k rounds of the stuff.
Understand about cost. However, all ammo will increase appx 40% shortly, and the damage to a gun from bad ammo or worse, and injury to you ot another makes it false economy.
Thanks, I will take it under advisement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat_Rogers