Work In Progress: new F1/F4 guide for 41F submissions

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Originally Posted by ggammell

Question re: 4h and engraving:

Will I need my full name engraved or can I use my first initial and last name along with city and state?

Also, should I include all the BCM markings as well? i.e. Logo and caliber etc thats stamped into the mag well?

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BigWaylon got back to me by PM so I'm good. thanks

I forgot, do I have to submit two copies of everything? other than the CLEO.

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Originally Posted by Rboitano

I forgot, do I have to submit two copies of everything? other than the CLEO.

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Depends on exactly what you're submitting.

For an individual submission, you send two copies of the F1 or F4 to the ATF and a single copy to the CLEO (each one is labeled in the footer).
For an entity submission, you send two copies of the F1/F4 and one copy of the 5320.23 to the ATF, plus one copy of the F1/F4 and one copy of the 5320.23 to the CLEO.

Photos and fingerprints go to the ATF, but not the CLEO.

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Originally Posted by BigWaylon

Depends on exactly what you're submitting.

For an individual submission, you send two copies of the F1 or F4 to the ATF and a single copy to the CLEO (each one is labeled in the footer).
For an entity submission, you send two copies of the F1/F4 and one copy of the 5320.23 to the ATF, plus one copy of the F1/F4 and one copy of the 5320.23 to the CLEO.

Photos and fingerprints go to the ATF, but not the CLEO.

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I submitted the ATF Copy (3 pages) and the ATF Copy 2 (3 pages) To be Returned to Registrant. So a total of 6 pages. Thats correct right? I did this back in July and got approved but i couldnt remember if i sent two copies of both.

Its for an Individual Form 1

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Originally Posted by Rboitano

I submitted the ATF Copy (3 pages) and the ATF Copy 2 (3 pages) To be Returned to Registrant. So a total of 6 pages. Thats correct right? I did this back in July and got approved but i couldnt remember if i sent two copies of both.

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That's correct. You don't send additional copies of the ATF Copy and ATF Copy 2 To be Returned to Registrant. You should have also sent the CLEO copy.

I did a 5320.20 for an SBR when I moved out of Texas several years ago. I still have and use a permanent address for my trust in Texas with an AOW and suppressor on it. I am PCSing to another state again, so my question is for the Registered owner address.

For the new 5320.20 do I put the address the SBR is currently at or the original Texas address for the trust at "1. Name and Address of Registered Owner"?

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Originally Posted by hobojoe

I did a 5320.20 for an SBR when I moved out of Texas several years ago. I still have and use a permanent address for my trust in Texas with an AOW and suppressor on it. I am PCSing to another state again, so my question is for the Registered owner address.

For the new 5320.20 do I put the address the SBR is currently at or the original Texas address for the trust at "1. Name and Address of Registered Owner"?

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It's in the registry (because of a previous 5320.20) with your current address, correct? That's what you'd use as the "From" location, and your future address as the "To".

It never has to match the F1/F4 again. It should always be the current address as the "From" unless you moved in-state and opted not to notify the ATF.

@BigWaylon - you're an invaluable asset to our community! Thank you for all the time you take to do these write ups and answer questions.

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Originally Posted by officerX

@BigWaylon - you're an invaluable asset to our community! Thank you for all the time you take to do these write ups and answer questions.

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Hmmm...if I become valuable instead, does that mean I get put on payroll? :D

Just glad I can help, as we've all been there (even if some people seem to forget that time in their lives).