Reproduction semi-auto Wunderwaffe (STG44 & MP38)

Just saw this ad, looks like IO might be trying to bring in (or build up) some of the German SSD reproductions. You now know about as much as me, which ain't a heck of a lot.

Templar, military reenactors, and those that think $4,000 is a great price to own the only STG-44 on their block should be pleased.

If IO did open up a supply line to SSD, the FG42 won't be too far behind.

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I think those are damn neat but I personally won't pay that kind of money for one.

Good enough for the Wehrmacht, good enough for... erm, someone wealthy.

M_P

Hell yeah! :cool:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/8mm_Kurz.html

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Seeing as how the least expensive transferrable I've seen was $15K and it was trashed......$4K is a deal, especially when you consider tool up costs and the US dollar shitting the bed vs. the Euro.

Very cool... Very expensive... With AIM's ammo at $9.25/20 it is only slightly more expensive than a lot of 5.56 ammo anymore...

Spooky

I'd really like to have an STG-44, even a semi-auto one. But $4k might be a bit more then I'd be willing to swing for it.


Unless somebody needs to buy a kidney....:D

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left or right??? What ya got???

Don't know if I'll go for one, but tempted... I am.

If I only had the coin! I'd love to get my hands on one of those.

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left or right??? What ya got???

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Well right now I still have both...they are just a bit used by the way...;)

http://www.ssd-weapon.com/

This news broke here in Germany about two years ago, and Visier magazine (the preeminent shooting mags over here) conducted a comprehensive shooting test on them last year. There were some minor wear problems at the 3,000 round mark, but nothing too serious -- and this is wholly consistent with the characteristics of the originals. Quality is sky high, and accuracy/shootability were generally quite good.

The problem, as observed elsewhere, is the price. Since these are essentially hand-built, they are already prohibitively expensive by German standards, and given the exchange rate right now, that puts them in "nice used car" territory for those of us on the US Dollar. I'm glad they brought the StG back, but I probably won't ever own one.

Chief

I will be all over these.

Please let us know when any new updates become available.

I have a buddy who has a real MP-40. Very fun to shoot and very easy to control.

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I have a buddy who has a real MP-40. Very fun to shoot and very easy to control.

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Ive got a buddy with a Sherman tank and he says the same thing....

Not sure where your buddy is finding rounds for his Sherman but my friend has no ammo issues.

My 12 year old with a 1942 MP-40. Click the pic.
http://http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/th_mp-40.jpg

My advice (as a Sturmgewehr owner) is if you even DREAM that someday you would like one you need to jump all over the semi auto Stg - they have never been offered before and history has told us repeatedly that offerings like this do not last

The Sturmgewehr is my single favorite weapon - the coolest of the cool - and even though I have one (pictured here on M4C) I am in line for one of the I.O. guns - actually one of the very first in line

Don't hesitate if you are considering it

Cheers

Larry Vickers

www.vickerstactical.com

I had the pleasure of shooting LAV's full-auto variant at a class (thanks Larry) and it is a definitive example that the Germans were wwwaaaayyyy ahead of their time in weapons development.

Aren't genuine NFA versions around $12k? I can't see paying $4k for a semi-auto repro, but if you can, great!

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I had the pleasure of shooting LAV's full-auto variant at a class (thanks Larry) and it is a definitive example that the Germans were wwwaaaayyyy ahead of their time in weapons development.

Aren't genuine NFA versions around $12k? I can't see paying $4k for a semi-auto repro, but if you can, great!

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Uh....keep going.

The cheapest I've seen was a trashed re-weld and it was $15K.

Quality rewats are $18~$19K, and C&R's are more than that....

True enough: correct StG's have always been on the high end of the price spectrum, even prior to 1986. Back when nice Colt M-16A1s were going for $2,000 to $2,500, and registered receiver HK MP-5s were $3,000 to $3,500, original un-cut Sturmgewehrs were still a real bargain at anything under $7,500. Obviously, that's a situation that has only grown worse over time.

Fast forward to today. The problem with the new semi rifle, as stated earlier, is that the current exchange rate is absolutely killing us, and what was a pricey weapon to start with (by our standards, anyway) has only grown more costly as the Dollar has utterly tanked against the Euro. It's a real shame, too, because our window of opportunity (in a legal sense) may well be closed before most of us can gather enough cash to even make a bid for ownership.

Chief

Here's a video I took of Larry giving us the rundown on the Sturmgewehr last year at the third Vickers AK class.

I apologize for the lack of stability in places....it's hard not to move when being pelted by 8mm Kurz......:D

Click to play:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...h_MOV00105.jpg

Sturmgewehrs just have an odd look to them, like something out of 1950's science fiction.

HK33's can feel a bit like them, even though the operation is different. Kind of a 2/3 scale STG-44. With a 40 round aluminum mag locked into place, there' no mistaking the lineage.

Attention all you want to be STG44 owners...

http://www.wideners.com/images/fulls/KURTZ.jpg

PPKURZF PRVI 7.92X33 KURTZ 124GR FMJBT $9.85/20 or $240.00/500

Brand New Prvi 7.92X33 KURTZ 124GR FMJBT, Packaged in 20rnd boxes - 25 boxes to a case of 500. 124gr FMJBT Brass Case, Non Corrosive and Fully Reloadable. So save your brass!

LINK

Just a FYI...

Might be a good time to stock up...

B

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Attention all you want to be STG44 owners...

http://www.wideners.com/images/fulls/KURTZ.jpg

PPKURZF PRVI 7.92X33 KURTZ 124GR FMJBT $9.85/20 or $240.00/500

Brand New Prvi 7.92X33 KURTZ 124GR FMJBT, Packaged in 20rnd boxes - 25 boxes to a case of 500. 124gr FMJBT Brass Case, Non Corrosive and Fully Reloadable. So save your brass!

LINK

Just a FYI...

Might be a good time to stock up...

B

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I just got on the waiting list for one, so this ammo information is right on time.

Larry seems like a really cool guy. I've seen him on the Military channel on shows like Weaponology but in this video he seems much more approachable.

I'm gonna have to take one of his classes so he can tell me everything I'm doing wrong!