Closer look at the SIG 516...Still not impressed

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Originally Posted by KingCobra

Sig sauer is german, SIG is its american counterpart.

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SIG Sauer GmbH is the German representative of Switzerland-based manufacturing firm Swiss Arms AG, which was spun off from Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft (SIG) in 2000. SIG Sauer Inc was established in 1985 with the name Sigarms (until October 2007) to import and distribute SIG firearms into the United States, although it now also has some manufacturing capabilities. Since 2000 it has been a separate entity.

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Wikipedia

See also: SIG SAUER HISTORY

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Originally Posted by M4Guru

I would have much rather seen them channel their efforts into a true US 551/552.

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I agree with this.

The Sig piston AR isn't a bad thing, but it's not a good thing either, I don't care that they're making it. But those classics... the real ones. Maybe with the rail for optics, sure... I'd be much more happy. I do not like how they changed up the trigger guard on their 550 mag lowers.

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Originally Posted by Omega Man

So is the Gen 2 a good rifle for the price?

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What price? Is it comparable to a DD/BCM/Colt/S&W with an optic?

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Originally Posted by Littlelebowski

What price? Is it comparable to a DD/BCM/Colt/S&W with an optic?

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No optic. Just a base rifle. Gabe Suarez is saying the Sig makes his DD pale in comparison.

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Originally Posted by Omega Man

No optic. Just a base rifle. Gabe Suarez is saying the Sig makes his DD pale in comparison.

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The decision seems obvious.

DD :secret:

"LWRC claims SIG's SIG516 line of piston-operated AR-15 rifles infringes upon their U.S. patent #7461581 "Self-cleaning gas operating system for a firearm"."

Adams Arms vs. Sig:

Patents in case

7,739,939: “Direct drive retrofit for rifles” by Adams and assigned to Adams Arms, Inc.. Prosecuted by Shumaker, Loop + Kendrick, LLP. Includes 18 claims (1 indep.). Was application 12/218,676. Filed 7/17/2008 & Granted 6/22/2010.

7,971,518: “Direct drive retrofit for rifles” by Adams and assigned to Adams Arms, Inc.. Prosecuted by Shumaker, Loop & Kendrick, LLP. Includes 31 claims (4 indep.). Was application 12/644,436. Filed 12/22/2009 & Granted 7/5/2011.

7,469,624: “Direct drive retrofit for rifles” by Adams. Prosecuted by McGushion; Aaron P.. Includes 9 claims (1 indep.). Was application 11/938,678. Filed 11/12/2007 & Granted 12/30/2008.

If the information Gabe Suarez is putting out about the SIG516 is correct, LWRC has lost its lawsuit against SIG.

Well, I have and use a 16" 516 on a regular basis. Its a fine weapon with over 1400 rounds downrange and no tilt/wear issues and not one failure of any kind. Printed .15"CTC at 50 yds with XM193 and an EoTech XPS2 benched on my last zero check, averages .55" CTC according to my notes.

Is it a revolutionary weapon that nothing comes close too, no. Is it a very accurate and well made/functioning piston AR, yes.

Take from that what you will.

M96

3 shot groups?