I wish they still made the Mod 0, IMO, the best looking and handling 5.56 gun they have made to date.........and in taupe it looks amazing.
I wish they still made the Mod 0, IMO, the best looking and handling 5.56 gun they have made to date.........and in taupe it looks amazing.
I seen chris Kyle and cpl other seals say they hated knights guns but I have never seen one or held one in person... They said they shoot what they get and didn't like them but did like the scar 17/H..
Sofrep inside the team room episode 22:question of gear..http://m.youtube.com/user/SOFREP/vid...lf_id=2&view=0
But I would love to shoot one and see for myself... Always wanted one but next one is gonna be the scar16 then a scar 17for the long range semi auto boom stick
I'm a fan too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TurretGunner
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But if I could have only one it would be the 14.5 Carbine. My 14.5 almost makes me want to get rid of the others.
Funny, but I've heard soldiers say Colt sucks... as well as other pieces of equipment too many to list. I wouldn't put much stock in that shit. Opinions are like assholes. Soldiers/Airmen/Sailors/Marines like to bitch about issued gear all the time. Nothing new. We all have our preferences, and I don't need the next man, especially a f**king SEAL (no disrespect to the late Chris Kyle) to validate what I personally would consider good gear. The Beretta M9 really does suck though.Quote:
Originally Posted by fullotto76
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I had the misfortune of getting a weird -shooting SR15E3 Mod1. But it was a great looking , smooth shooting weapon. It is the only weapon I pulled out of the box and didn't feel like tweaking. I paid about $1800 for mine . If It had not had the very rare accuracy problem I would have been fully satisfied with the rifle.
Very nice legacies! But I agree with you regarding the 14.5 upper. In fact, I did sell my 16" KAC uppers. Now my KAC rifles are all 14.5s (oh and an 11.5") but the 14.5s get all of the time on the range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Breacher 217
Older SR-15/Mk 11's had their issues, but have been addressed for the most part. Look at who is running KAC guns and uppers right now and tell me they are junk....Quote:
Originally Posted by fullotto76
There are few rifles I would rather take into harms way than a SR-25, and as far as 5.56 goes.....None I would rather have than a sr-15.
And yea, the Scar17 is the shit....finest battle rifle in the world type good.
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Originally Posted by Breacher 217
Sell me the taupe then :)
Brandon Webb said something on the lines that he liked KAC. When they working right. But preferred HK. That being said that was a long time ago he was using there products and things change.
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[QUOTE=TurretGunner;1836224]Sell me the taupe then :)[/QUOTE
It is for sale.
Kyle said he didn't did not like the mk11/ sr25. They are different. SOCOM first received the sr25, they did not do so well, infact they were not liked SOCOM wide. Then came the mk11, not sure of the differences but it was a improvement over the original sr25's. Now you have the m110/ modern new sr25's and they are the proverbial shit.
I have not read Kyles book but I am guessing his experience was with the older sr25 that did not preform well especially in the desert. If memory serves me correctly I believe in order for the guns to run right we had to use a specific type of lube and they were still finicky. (I was never issued the oldschool sr25 but Remeber being told about them from some of my NCO's)
I recently bit the bullet and purchased one of these. I had basically spent 6 months taking a standard PSA (the good kind with FN 1:7 HBAR) and turning it into my dream rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackcpull
VLTOR EMOD
AXTS 45* Safety
AR Gold Trigger
BCM Mod 3 Grip
BCM Gunfighter CH
BCM KMR 13"
BCM VG/rail panels
SureFire M300 Scout w/ SR7
KAC Micros
BE Meyers ASR FH
(TA33 Acog)
and THEN literally weeks after I'd gotten it just the way I liked it, I bought an SR15 E3 Mod 2 14.5 MLOK from BoltCarrier/Ayan.
I had Ayan pin my Meyers FH for when my Saker gets out of jail. Didn't have a lot of option there since I obviously want to use the Saker on it. Will get into that later.
So, first thing I did, was take BOTH rifles to the range. Since the Meyers was on the PSA but I got the KAC Flash Hider with the rifle (separate obviously) I threw that on the PSA.
I took the Acog off, so both rifles were set up the exact same. Iron sights, and surefire scouts on both, for similar weight (other than 1.5" difference on PSA barrel, 16" - which should benefit the psa).
Loaded up a mag, shot 5 through the KAC, 5 through the PSA build. My preconceived notion about the KAC gas system's hype was a "yeah I guess I can tell its softer".
WRONG>
I honestly cannot express how blown away I was at the difference. The KAC didn't feel substantially soft when I shot it, but then when i shot the PSA build it felt a good 35-40% more violent (obviously 556 is not violent and I could shoot that PSA well...so thats all to say how soft the KAC truly was). Given I'd (only 5 shots) accustomed to the impulse of the KAC, when I shot the PSA in the same manner i had tremendously more muzzle rise.
The amount of research and development that goes into Knights weapons is beyond compare. And the balance and handling of the rifle show. Not to mention I've seen (unconfirmed) reports on a youtube vid of guys taking same mod 2 to 20k rounds and printing 1.1" 5rd groups at 100. People scoff at the price, KAC has no shortage of haters. But I EASILY hit $2k on my build pre acog, and other than the knights sights, didn't have as high of quality parts, especially in terms of the actual engine (BCG, barrel, gas, receivers - BCM stuff obviously very quality).
Other than the LMT Sopmod stock, which I absolutely love, every single part on the rifle was my by KAC (except maybe upper receiver? not sure). That is not even close to industry norm.
If i'm wrong on anything I've stated please chime in. I am aware I could be, particularly on the details of the last part, but I know regardless the in-house parts is FAR above norm. Regardless to say, I was absolutely blown away with its performance on the first range trip compared to my 2k build (and yes i know it was PSA 'engine' I was running, not BCM/DD etc. but PSA's reputation is very respectable, and the barrel was made by FN. the rest of the parts were mil-spec so not exactly a magnified difference outside of brand and specific QC methods to BCM/DD etc.). The point is, my build was a nice gun and I loved it. The KAC made it feel like a piece of sh*t scrapped together. Honestly. The price tag absolutely is justified.
Wow, 2.5 year old thread, back from the dead... ;)
I like 1-stop shopping. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RHINOWSO
KAC rifles are the best I've owned. These are fighting rifles first and foremost, and while there is a certain level of collectibility and aesthetic awesomeness about them, they are purpose built for a sustained fight. I personally wouldn't classify a KAC gun as 'boutique' or 'high end' like say a Christensen Arms rifle. Sure it might cost more than your average AR, but considering the R&D that goes into these guns, it's clearly function over form. That said, I view KAC guns the same way I view Snap-On tools (and for the record I think LMT is just as good). ;)
Word. There is nothing "boutique" about KAC. They sell a quality product. I largely blame the slew of "mediocre" and "cheap" rifle out there. Back in the day, you didn't have choices. You had Colt, that was it. Now you have stuff that ranges from bottom barrel to better than the original. I would agree that something like Christiansen arms is most definitely boutique, where as rifles like LMT, KAC and Larue are just high quality purpose built rifles. The analogy with snap on is spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boba Fett v2
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If you take shorter barrel, like 11.5 for example, ( KAC vs BCM) you can easily tell which rifle shot softer.
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