Oh ok, I thought so. I'm gonna order a non-lci spring loaded bearing and see what happens. Thank you.
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The 30274 trigger housing with ejector will cure 99.9% of all ejection problems. Don't waste money on an aftermarket extractor.
Id like to chime in with my personal experience.
Ive got a thread on here about it, where my G17 that Ive shot hell out of, while being thus far 100% reliable, was just dribbling brass out of the gun, and/or smacking my face, head and shoulder with empties since day one.
I ordered a Gen4 trigger housing, and used the 30274 ejector in my Gen3 G17. Did an initial range test of a little over 350 rounds...PERFECT. Went back last week, again a little over 350 rnds..I now pronounce my G17 CURED. I watched the gun as others shot it also, and its kicking them WAY OUT further than ever, very robustly.
I feel damn lucky all it cost was an $8 part.
That mirrors my experience with my Gen.3 G17. With the 336 ejector, I had about 90-100% 6 o'clock ejection. I switched out the 336 for the 30274, and it dropped to 40-60%. Adding the Apex FRE and replacement plunger spring, and a non-LCI spring loaded bearing, it ejects exclusively to 4 or 5 o'clock.
EVERY.
TIME.
Have the Apex haters ever used the FREs???
Pat
I got it last month at Midway. Part was $8...to my door was $12. I don't know how to do the linky thang.
Just order from here, mine ended up being like $12 and some change shipped and was at my door in 3 days.
http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=123022&CAT=748
Wanted to add my personal experience. My 3rd gen G17 RTF2 got to 900rds and started to spit them back at me about 5% of the time.
Installed the 30274 Ejector and the non LCI spring loaded bearing at the same time and I have not had any more come back at me in 300+ rounds. 30274 changed the way the last round ejects, it is more erratic as far as direction but still clears the gun fine and doesnt come screaming back at me. Since it is the last round it doesn't really matter anyway... So far its working very well, got my fingers crossed....
I have bought five Glocks this year now. My gen 3 17 has the most rounds by far and it's not had a single issue. It's been a pathetic year for me, but this gun still has a good 6k through it, maybe more. I don't keep track at all.
Then I've had four 19's. One a gen 4. They don't have the round count of the 17 combined, but none have had an issue of any kind.
Right when the gen 4 17 was released, I bought two of the first couple shipments to corpus. Neither had issues. One of those had probably 20k in two years, the other maybe 1/3 to 1/4 that. No issues at all.
Now, I consider myself lucky because I have seen a couple guns kicking brass back at 6 o'clock. But none of the times I've seen it has it been consistent. Just here and there.
A buddy's early gen 4 17 would do it a couple times a mag for him, yet I could run through a few mags without it happening at all.
I'm NOT saying it's the shooter's fault as there are obviously guns out there doing this. But I do know it's happened less for me after watching it happen to a couple different shooters.
I use a very high, forward grip and my gun barely moves during recoil. I have no clue if or how this affects it, but it happens less to me than others I've seen.
Either way, of the guns I've seen kicking brass, they were still working 100%.
Here's my grip. Not sure it has anything to do with it, but that gun barely moves. I squeeze until it hurts, then back off just a little.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3742/1...da47cd49_c.jpg
jonconsiglio,
That is good to hear. My old man has a Gen 3 G19 from 2012 that has made it past 1000 rounds with zero issues. We are currently working on the next 1000, but my Dad does not shoot that much these days. Time will tell.
I had to send my G23 back to the factory to cure its FTL issues. They were horrible. I haven't had a single problem since it came back, but they only wrote "upgraded" on the fix action box in the receipt. I could not tell what the did or replaced.
THe 3rd gen 30SF I just got was giving me BTF problems. Mostly with weak ammo (Herters), but did some even with WWB. After boning up on it and checking my extractor and (8196-2) ejector , I did the following: Removed the extractor and stoned both sides on a fine whetstone with a lot of oil to remove some finish and smooth it up good. The ejector had an angle on it that was straight down at six oclock. I changed the angle to two oclock right with a file.
Next range trip the BTF was almost (but not entirely) fixed. Brass was ejecting vigorously at about 2 oclock. Out of 100 rounds there were two dribbles back over the shoulder and one to the noggin. I'm happy as a pig in mud about the improvement. I took the extractor and stoned it just a tad more and will check that out next range trip. Otherwise, I'm just going to put more rounds through it and see how it breaks in. I only have about 600 rounds through it right now.
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Sample size of one. The Apex FRE finally solved my brass to the face problem with a Gen 4 G19. Other than that issue, this pistol has been malf-free for 1500+ rounds.
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