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    Availability of Better Performing 5.56 Self Defense Loads

    I searched this subform for the word "availability" and didn't come up with anything, but if this thread already exists please lock and trash.

    what I'm interested in is actual links to retailers selling the specific loads that Doc mentions here and elsewhere in this subforum.

    If you know of a retailer for any of these, post a link and I'll edit this first post to include the links. I realize that not ALL of these are readily available to non-govt. entities so we may not get full population of the list for all loads listed, and let's not stop at one retailer for any one load. I'll paste in as many links under any one load as we come up with.

    loads pulled from the linked thread...

    For longer range engagements using precision weapons like the Mk12 SPR or DMR rifles with faster 1/8 or 1/7 twist barrels
    5.56 Federal 62 gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw (TBBC)

    5.56 Federal 62 gr bonded JSP (XM556FBIT3)
    http://www.sgammo.com/product/federa...oad-xm556fbit3
    http://newfrontierarmory.com/catalog...ducts_id=34157
    http://www.joitos.com/view/?23605156
    http://www.sportsmans-depot.com/prod...000-XM80C.html

    5.56 mm Winchester 64 gr solid base bonded JSP (Q3313/RA556B)
    5.56 mm Speer 55 gr Gold Dot JSP

    5.56 mm Federal 62 gr Mk318 Mod0 (T556TNB1)
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...n&key=T556TNB1
    http://www.primaryarms.com/Federal_T...p/t556tnb1.htm
    http://www.targetsportsusa.com/p-297...mmunition.aspx
    http://usarmorment.com/federal-mk318...l?currency=USD

    .223 55 gr Federal bonded JSP Tactical loads (LE223T1)
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...on&key=LE223T1

    .223 62 gr Federal bonded JSP Tactical loads (LE223T3)
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...on&key=LE223T3

    Nosler 60 gr Partition JSP
    http://stores.nextag.com/store/48575...CD334BE7251D03

    Remington 62 gr Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded JSP (PRC223R4)
    http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/remi...-p-104850.html
    http://www.hinterlandoutfitters.com/...bx-p-1697.html
    http://www.combattactical.com/prmr-6...-p-174351.html

    .223 Federal 55 gr TSX (T223S)
    http://www.gtdist.com/ProductDetail....umber=FC-T223X


    .223 Speer 55 & 64 gr Gold Dot JSP's
    Federal 62 gr Fusion JSP

    Federal XM223SP1 62gr Bonded JSP
    http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...gr-bonded.html

    Swift 75 gr Scirocco bonded PT

    1:12
    BH 50 gr TSX
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ion&key=D556N1
    http://www.triadtactical.com/Black-H...grain-TSX.html
    http://www.venturamunitions.com/5-56...ls-ammunition/
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/615...free-box-of-50

    Fed 55 gr TBBC
    Speer 55 gr Gold Dot
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...tion&key=24455
    http://www.marklsupply.com/bSpeerbbr...-SP_p_124.html

    Fed 55 gr TSX

    where intermediate barrier penetration is not a critical requirement... ...For 1/7 twist barrels
    Hornady 75 gr OTM
    Nosler 77 gr OTM
    Sierra 77 gr SMK OTM
    If stuck with 1/9 twist barrels
    69 gr SMK OTM,
    68 gr Hornady OTM

    Winchester 64 gr JSP (RA223R2)
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM292-1.html

    Federal 64 gr TRU (T223L) JSP
    Hornady 60 gr JSP


    For longer range engagements using precision weapons like the Mk12 SPR or DMR rifles with faster 1/8 or 1/7 twist barrels
    Barnes 70 gr TSX (Optimized "browntip")
    Hornady 75 gr TAP (#8126N)
    Nosler 77 gr
    Sierra 77 gr Match King (Mk262 Mod1)


    From this thread on hog hunting (some redundancy with above, I'll come back and clean that up)
    Federal 55 or 62 gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bonded JSP
    Winchester 64 gr solid base bonded JSP (Q3313/RA556B)
    Remington 62 gr Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded JSP (PRC223R4)
    Swift 75 gr Scirocco bonded PT
    Speer 55 or 64 gr Gold Dot JSP (and identically constructed Federal 62 gr Fusion JSP and Federal XM223SP1 62gr Bonded JSP)
    Nosler 60 gr Partition JSP
    Barnes all copper TSX bullets, probably the 70 gr version is best for your needs
    Last edited by rob_s; 03-03-12 at 06:27.

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    BVAC uses the Federal 62gr Bonded SP loaded to NATO pressure.
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemD...spx?sku=AMM277

    BVAC using 75gr Hornady T1C bullet at NATO pressure (Molon has tested this round with favorable accuracy results on tos):
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM239-5.html

    Federal 62gr AB49 (Mk318 SOST):
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM2810-1.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    BVAC uses the Federal 62gr Bonded SP loaded to NATO pressure.
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemD...spx?sku=AMM277

    BVAC using 75gr Hornady T1C bullet at NATO pressure (Molon has tested this round with favorable accuracy results on tos):
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM239-5.html

    Federal 62gr AB49 (Mk318 SOST):
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM2810-1.html
    All the 556 bvac I have ever bought was infact loaded to .223 velocity.

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    Hope im not missing something, but most of these loads are for DMR type weapons. Id like to see loads for HD that are capable target stoppers, but are easily defeated by barriers such as walls, appliances, and furniture. It would be nice to see ones that perform well in SBR's as well.
    This is a great ideal Rob, and a sticky would be great when enough info is compiled.
    Thanks and God bless,
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Thoughts on this? Pulled from the sgammo website:

    "Reclassified for consumer sales for reasons unknown to me. This is not labeled as a "second" by the maufacturer"

    Im wondering if this ammo is actually good to go. Has anyone bought some of this from sgaammo and tested it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenndapp View Post
    All the 556 bvac I have ever bought was infact loaded to .223 velocity.
    Molon tested the BVAC 75gr and it is loaded to NATO pressure and velocity.

    The results are under 'HSM 5.56 ammo'. They changed their name to BVAC.

    http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_16/40...EAVY_OTMs.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsmith_shoot View Post
    Hope im not missing something, but most of these loads are for DMR type weapons. Id like to see loads for HD that are capable target stoppers, but are easily defeated by barriers such as walls, appliances, and furniture. It would be nice to see ones that perform well in SBR's as well.
    This is a great ideal Rob, and a sticky would be great when enough info is compiled.
    Thanks and God bless,
    Brandon
    Brandon,

    Any non-bonded soft point or OTM round will meet your criteria.

    All above listed loads are VERY capable 'target stoppers'. DocGKR's 5.56 duty ammo thread speaks to this.
    Last edited by BufordTJustice; 03-02-12 at 00:14.

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    I sure hope this helps

    5.56 Federal 62 gr bonded JSP (XM556FBIT3)
    http://www.joitos.com/view/?23605156
    http://www.sportsmans-depot.com/prod...000-XM80C.html

    5.56 mm Federal 62 gr Mk318 Mod0 (T556TNB1)
    http://usarmorment.com/federal-mk318...l?currency=USD

    Nosler 60 gr Partition JSP
    http://stores.nextag.com/store/48575...CD334BE7251D03

    Remington 62 gr Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded JSP (PRC223R4)
    http://www.combattactical.com/prmr-6...-p-174351.html

    (BH 50 gr TSX) Black Hills 50gr TSX 5.56 50rd Box
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ion&key=D556N1
    http://www.triadtactical.com/Black-H...grain-TSX.html
    http://www.venturamunitions.com/5-56...ls-ammunition/

    Speer 55 gr Gold Dot
    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...tion&key=24455
    http://www.marklsupply.com/bSpeerbbr...-SP_p_124.html

    Winchester 64 gr JSP (RA223R2)
    http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM292-1.html

    This website carries ammo with similiar descriptions of the list below
    http://store.chencustom.com/223_ammunition_s/36.htm
    Hornady 75 gr OTM
    Nosler 77 gr OTM
    Sierra 77 gr SMK OTM
    If stuck with 1/9 twist barrels
    69 gr SMK OTM,
    68 gr Hornady OTM

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    Midway USA carries the Black Hills 5.56 50gr. TSX (50 rd box) http://www.midwayusa.com/product/615...free-box-of-50
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    Thanks guys, updated the list in the OP with links posted to this point.

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