DocGKR, what's up with Winchester bonded 180 gr Q4369?

**ack495** · 05-21-11, 13:49

This question is for DocGKR but anyone that can answer my questions please chime in.

So this particular version has been out for a while now based on my Google searches. However I can't seem to find any reliable gel testing on it. It's out there on the online market for under $20 for 50 round boxes, so its seems like a great buy. The tests seem positive but the testing parameters are unknown.

I remember your tests of Q4355 and having inconsistent results in the 4 layer denim tests where 50% were not expanding. I see that Winchester RA40B, Q4355 and the PDX version in 180 gr, are on your approved list. However, no Q4369. I think the consensus is that its reclassified gov't overrun. Did you ever retest Q4355 and have better results? Also, have you tested or plan to test Q4369? Or is it good to go? Thanks for your contributions.

**ack495** · 05-26-11, 20:01

Got nothing for me , Doc?

**DocGKR** · 05-26-11, 23:03

Yes.

No.

Unknown.

**Iraqgunz** · 04-21-12, 19:17

I just got a smokin' deal on some of this ammo. Doc in plain English, is this a viable round for self defense?

**DocGKR** · 04-23-12, 14:01

I contacted Winchester, who states the only difference between Q4355 and Q4369 is the box they come in...

**MegademiC** · 04-23-12, 23:18

Originally Posted by Iraqgunz

I just got a smokin' deal on some of this ammo. Doc in plain English, is this a viable round for self defense?

Me too, just got enough to last me YEARS @ 40cents per round - which is a steel(oops-steal *(edit)) compared to the $1/rd everyone else is asking for the PDX-1.

Thanks for the confirmation, Doc!

**Iraqgunz** · 04-23-12, 23:20

Thanks Doc.

Originally Posted by DocGKR

I contacted Winchester, who states the only difference between Q4355 and Q4369 is the box they come in...

**Iraqgunz** · 04-23-12, 23:21

I bought 2500 rounds at the large Phoenix gun show this weekend for .28 cents a round. I couldn't pass it up.

Originally Posted by MegademiC

Me too, just got enough to last me YEARS @ 40cents per round - which is a steel compared to the $1/rd everyone else is asking for the PDX-1.

Thanks for the confirmation, Doc!