A good 1911 article

**wake.joe** · 04-23-12, 16:08

I think the problem is there are a lot of "inexpensive" 1911's made by companies that just simply don't work. So it creates a higher percentage of guns that don't run, vs one's that do. And because 90% of people don't run them hot and dirty - It goes unnoticed.

So, people who DO like to get their guns hot and dirty have to go the expensive route. Because these companies are few and far between (And usually backlogged) there is no reason to lower prices.

A 1911 will never be as inexpensive as a glock, just due to the basic number of parts alone.

The only real "MECHANICAL" disadvantage to a 1911 is the low capacity. The talk about "Modern machining not lending itself to the design" is hogwash in my ears.

**Littlelebowski** · 04-23-12, 17:08

Originally Posted by Gem1950

Originally Posted by Got UZI

Very good article. Makes one think about the 1911 platform. Tho I'm sure some people will still say the 1911 is out dated.

That is because, unfortunately, thinking is outdated. A lot of people would prefer to just be able to squeze a "safe" trigger and not have to think about anything else while sending 18 rounds down range. I'm not putting down all the plastic guns or their proponents or their conscious preference. The 1911 is just a universe apart, pure and simple.

No, some people just want stuff to work. Doesn't mean you are justified in sneering at them.

**Kokopelli** · 04-23-12, 17:18

Threads like this always go bad.. Check the 1911 forums for Glock threads.. It just never works. Next there will be an AK thread.. OMG... cheers.. Ron

**Littlelebowski** · 04-23-12, 18:52

1911s need a dedicated owner in order to be ran hard. Just because modern designs require less tinkering does not mean their users don't think. Elitist tinkerers like to grab silly analogies like this in order to make themselves feel superior and attempt to talk down to others.

I always find it refreshing when folks don't think they're superior because of what they own but the internet doesn't seem to attract such humility and thoughtfulness.

I have a Kimber Series I that like very much but owning it doesn't make me feel superior to those who own modern handguns and I certainly don't think more when shooting it. Come to think of it, neither did my Nighthawk Predator, Kimber Series II, Springfield EMP, or my Springfield TRP.

**Gem1950** · 04-24-12, 14:34

[QUOTE=Littlelebowski;1290118]

Originally Posted by Gem1950

No, some people just want stuff to work. Doesn't mean you are justified in sneering at them.

No "sneering" here, at all! Different strokes for different folks. Whatever floats your boat. My point is that many people are either unwilling, or unable, to accept the distinctions between the 100 year old design and subsequent ones.

**cankicker01** · 04-24-12, 17:49

Guys lets please not turn this into a pissing match. I posted this article because I was glad to see a 1911 article outside of this forum that generally stayed true to the Facts concerning the 1911 platform. I think it looks bad on all of us as forum members when we tear each other down (whether intentional or not) for our choice in weapons. I think that any of us whether, 1911 or Glock owners start assuming that we are superior fighters or marksmen due to our weapon choice........ Makes us the dumb ones. The key to superiority is not the weapon, but the one who wields it. Bet there are dudes on this board that can smoke our shit with a Glock. I also bet that there are some dudes who can run their 1911's in circles around some Glock owners. I think any of us can be better with whatever platform we choose to run, if we are dedicated to learn it's strengths AND weaknesses and train accordingly.

**Littlelebowski** · 04-24-12, 20:34

[QUOTE=Gem1950;1290805]

Originally Posted by Littlelebowski

No "sneering" here, at all! Different strokes for different folks. Whatever floats your boat. My point is that many people are either unwilling, or unable, to accept the distinctions between the 100 year old design and subsequent ones.

OK, understood.

**Got UZI** · 04-24-12, 21:11

"Guys lets please not turn this into a pissing match. I posted this article because I was glad to see a 1911 article outside of this forum that generally stayed true to the Facts concerning the 1911 platform. I think it looks bad on all of us as forum members when we tear each other down (whether intentional or not) for our choice in weapons. I think that any of us whether, 1911 or Glock owners start assuming that we are superior fighters or marksmen due to our weapon choice........ Makes us the dumb ones. The key to superiority is not the weapon, but the one who wields it. Bet there are dudes on this board that can smoke our shit with a Glock. I also bet that there are some dudes who can run their 1911's in circles around some Glock owners. I think any of us can be better with whatever platform we choose to run, if we are dedicated to learn it's strengths AND weaknesses and train accordingly."

Very well put. Seems that some In general think they have te best opinion period. Who decided one person is more supioror to another? Because someone has more money to spend on training or gear than another? This makes their opinion better than someone who is starting out but is not a fool?? Whatever happened to the mutial respect to all shooters? Seems that in these days, we shoud all be banding together and not fighting among ourselves over who has a bigger pair of balls....