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    Homemade Red Gun Lube

    Here's a recipe for homemade gun lube. The good part about making this stuff yourself is that you can alter the viscosity by manipulating the ratios of ingredients to suit your own taste/preference. Use a quart container, like an empty oils jug, as a receptacle/storage container and only make a half quart or so until you get the consistency you like. Obviously if you want it thicker, add more of the thick stuff. If you want it thinner, use less of the thick stuff, or add more thin stuff. The key is using the same measuring device for all ingredients so you can reproduce your results, and don't forget to write down your ratios. Play with it and see what works best for your needs.

    The ingredients are:

    • 2 parts - Good quality motor oil (multi weight)
    • 2 parts - Good quality ATF
    • 3 parts - Lucas heavy duty oil stabilizer (sort of like STP and you don't need a gallon but it is good for your car too!)
    • 2 parts - Hoppe's #9
    • 1 part - Marvel Mystery Oil


    Throw it together, mix it up and put it in a dispenser and you're ready to go.



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    How long have you let some of this sit for? Do the different parts seperate and layer out?

    Also, how thick is it?

    Looks interesting.
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    Interesting. Why did you add the #9??


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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Interesting. Why did you add the #9??


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    For the fragrance?

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    Looks like a variation of Bug Juice which worked pretty well for me. I dont remember the ratios but those are exactly the ingredients minus the marvel mystery oil.
    ETA: i dont know about this one but bug juice smells like hoppes #9. It's the only ingredient that has a strong odor.
    Last edited by Col_Crocs; 04-26-12 at 09:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyM4 View Post
    How long have you let some of this sit for? Do the different parts seperate and layer out?

    Also, how thick is it?

    Looks interesting.
    So far it does not seem to seperate but I would not be surprised if it did because of the solvent in the Hoppe's which probably would evaporate off if left open. It (this version) is a little thicker than some Militec-1 that I have but much thicker than CLP etc.

    The goal here was to have a lube mix that does not run out of the gun, has some cleaning qualities and is heat resistant

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyM4 View Post
    How long have you let some of this sit for? Do the different parts seperate and layer out?

    Also, how thick is it?

    Looks interesting.
    From my experience with bug juice, the only separation you get is a thick milky sludge that settles on the bottom. I used to just let it sit for a few days then transfer it to different container, leaving the sludge in the previous one.
    Last edited by Col_Crocs; 04-26-12 at 09:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Interesting. Why did you add the #9??


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    To give it some cleaning quality. I think that the #9 could be cut back (1/2) and it would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gem1950 View Post
    To give it some cleaning quality. I think that the #9 could be cut back (1/2) and it would be fine.
    Generally speaking, I don't want my lube to clean. I want it to lube. When I want to clean the gun, I will use a dedicated cleaner.

    Just a thought.



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    I agree with Grant.

    If you want it to thin a bit, just cut it with mineral spirits. That will give it a bit of cleaning ability too. I really don't see the need for both ATF and Motor Oil. The ATF is a better lube for firearms anyways. It has better anti-corrosion additives.

    Also, test it when the weather gets cold. Some homebrews don't play well when temps get cold.
    Last edited by Heavy Metal; 04-26-12 at 09:44.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gem1950 View Post
    To give it some cleaning quality. I think that the #9 could be cut back (1/2) and it would be fine.
    I know with ATF4 trans fluid it has detergents to help with cleaning.
    Last edited by doubleajaybrock; 04-26-12 at 17:06.

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    For what it's worth, I got the "Bug Juice" recipe from a friend who works security for several of the TVA nuclear power plants. He was on an artillery crew during his time in service. To quote him, they used the bug juice on the big guns and their personal weapons and the Hoppes was added to give the lube "creepiness". According to him, the basic recipe did not film over the metal parts as well without it. I have made it with and without the Hoppes and can see no real difference, but my weapons are not run as hard as many here, so YMMV. This is the recipe as he emailed it to me...

    Subject: Bug Juice...

    This is the recipe for "Bug Juice". This is a lubricant that the military uses for big guns. This stuff is great for moving parts on shotguns, rifles, etc:

    1. One (1) 9 oz. bottle of Hoppes #9
    2. One (1) pint of STP oil treatment
    3. Two (2) quarts Mobile 1, synthetic oil 10w30
    4. One (1) quart Automatic Transmission Fluid

    I will bring you a sample when we get back to Arab. Hope everyone is doing okay.

    This stuff works well when cold, just make sure you use synthetic oil. It is also thin enough to spread easily and just thick enough to be manageable.
    Last edited by 1gunzenuf; 04-26-12 at 10:31. Reason: additional info

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    I think the main thing to keep in mind about stuff like this is that there are many variations of the ingredients that will work well depending on conditions etc. Eleminating the #9 and/or substituting with mineral spirits would probably be fine. I'm just seeking something that protects, resists high temp. and doesn't run out of the gun.

    This is sorta like the "Ed's Red" cleaning solvent mixture which I mix up and use all the time, even use it at the range on the BoreSnake.

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    Gotta admit that I generally agree with Grant on this sort of thing.

    I currently use a very lightweight synthetic grease called 'SuperLube' for running my guns, and dedicated cleaning solvents for cleaning (or just a couple of paper towels for wipe down on the MR556).

    But, if I were to make a multi-purpose lube such as the ones being discussed in this thread, i'd probably end up using PB blaster or Kroil in place of the Hoppes if my goal was to help this work its way into the nooks and crannies.

    While working as a heavy steel worker for the DoD/DoN, I would make a mix of half and half light tool oil and Kroil for my pneumatic grinders and the like. Mine ran much better then anybody elses and I didn't need to take my gear into the tool rooms for maintinence as much as most others.

    Then again, simply taking the time to perform proper maintinence on my tools and take care of my gear probably had a lot to do with that as well.

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    How much did all of the materials cost you?

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    How tasty. Some smelly cocktail made from various petroleum products. I can't wait to breath that stuff in when shooting suppressed.





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    Another reason to stick with a lightweight, food grade, synthetic grease.




    http://www.super-lube.com/
    Last edited by GrumpyM4; 04-26-12 at 21:19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    How tasty. Some smelly cocktail made from various petroleum products. I can't wait to breath that stuff in when shooting suppressed.
    i use a mix of ATF and synthetic motor oil from Mobil 1 and its honestly 100% safe unless injected under your skin.

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    Seems like a lot of extra crap without a distinct advantage but, whatever burps your worm. I think I'll stick to the separate cleaning solvent and continue lubing with Mobil 1 & synthetic ATF.

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    2 parts - Good quality motor oil (multi weight)
    2 parts - Good quality ATF
    3 parts - Lucas heavy duty oil stabilizer (sort of like STP and you don't need a gallon but it is good for your car too!)
    2 parts - Hoppe's #9
    1 part - Marvel Mystery Oil
    For the most part, I'm one of those guys that likes to use actual gun care products on guns, while still understanding that most will run with just about any decent lubrication. However, I have used synthetic motor oil with good results.

    I started with the above mix and found it to be a bit on the thin side. I ended up cutting the Hoppe's down to 1 part and increasing the Lucas HDOS by 1 part. I used Royal Purple 20W50 and Mobile 1 Synthetic ATF. I'll give it a go and see what happens. It would be interesting to hear what a lubrication engineer would tell us about this.

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