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    Looks like a good quality, well thought out offering.

    I would be interested in buying a barrel in the future.
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    Now is my time to throw my .02 cents in place. Back in April I was able to attend the Magpul Dynamics Carbine course taught by Steve Fisher and hosted by Tucson Guns. Steve and the guys from Tucson Guns were great.

    I have been working behind the scenes with K.L Davis and the owner of Sionics Weaponry providing input and advice while I was working overseas the last few months.

    I was asked to use one of their rifles during the course to provide my input and to help put some more rounds through the weapon. For the class I selected the Patrol III XL. The specs on this were as follows;

    1. 16" mid length barrel made from 4150 CMV with an A2 flash hider.

    2. Samson 15" Evolution rail with 3 rail segments in place.

    3. M4 marked flat top upper receiver.

    4. Magpul Gen II front and rear BUIS.

    5. Milspec BCG HP/MPI tested with black Ion bonding. (This was very interesting as I don't usually care for those "fancy" coatings and a USGI standard charging handle.

    6. Sionics lower receiver with Mapgul SRT stock, MOE pistol grip, trigger guard and JARD LE trigger system. Buffer was an H with a standard M4 buffer spring.

    I did a quick visual inspection of the rifle, lubed it with Froglube and then added a few of my own accessories. I didn't care for the ambi sling plate that was on it. Not only was it in my way, I don't care much for single point slings. I ended up wrenching it off with the help of Kino and then added my Vickers sling, PRI charging handle (no spare BCM at the time) Tango Down VFG and a borrowed Aimpoint Micro T-1 with a 2 MOA dot (thanks again Steve).

    I was told that it had already been fired so it was somewhat broken in. As anyone who knows about shooting in a Magpul class, that won't last long as you will be putting rounds down range in no time.

    For the class I used a variety of GI aluminum magazines, Mapgul mags, Gen I Lancers and the always maligned Surefire magazines. All magazines did exactly what they should have and dropped free when released. The Surefire mags proved to be boringly reliable and thus far I have (3) of them. One has at least 1K rounds through it, and the others a few hundred. Prices are dropping and I encourage you to grab at least one.

    Back to the carbine. I was surprised by the Samson rail. It was very solid and lightweight. The rifle balanced out very nicely and due to that extra bit of rail I was easily able to reach my off hand out there. Those with long arms will definitely appreciate it.

    I fired well over 700 rounds in the approx. 2 days that I used the carbine. The temps were well into the low 90's and it stayed warm. The rail stayed surprisingly cool even when slinging alot of rounds down range. During that time I used surplus Lake City M855, Hornady 75gr. Steel TAP and some M193. All ammo fired 100% and there were zero malfunctions of any kind during the course. I was a little surprised to say the least. In the back of my mind I somehow want something to happen so I can (a) work on it, (b) see what the hell happened.

    After the conclusion of the course, I was able to take the rifle with me to do some additional shooting. I wanted to test it out with a Battle Comp, an A5 set up and do some more informal shooting. More about that later.

    In all the carbine handled very well, was very pleasant to shoot, and was more than accurate. Most of you know I could care less what kind of groups I get off the bench. What matters to me is that the weapon works and that I can put rounds where they need to go and it did exactly that. I did not clean the weapon at all. I simply hit it with some FrogLube and shot it. When I took the BCG out of the weapon at the end of the class, I was shocked. There was virtually no carbon the the BCG at all. The Froglube and combination of the Ion bond was simply amazing.

    One thing I didn't care for was the JARD trigger and I believe that issue is being looked at. Additionally no carbine or rifle is complete without a BCM charging handle. There simply is no place for a regular USGI handle in 2012. I have also recommended that Sionics look at offering the Battle Arms selector lever with all of their carbines and rifles. Those who have used them can attest for the high quality. During the Magpul course on thing I missed was the Battle Arms 45 degree lever on my other AR's.

    If you are in AZ or passing through I encourage you to contact Kino or the guys at Sionics to learn more. They are very customer oriented which is something that seems to lack nowadays. In addition to complete rifles and carbines they also have lowers for sale, uppers and parts. I believe that barrels are also going to be available as well.

    Also in the very near future we are going to be offering an Armorer Course that will be taught by myself. The class will be 2 days long and it will be open to everyone. Civilians, LE, and military. There is nothing "top secret" going on in those classes and with the amount of people building carbines, it is essential to learn the Do's and Don'ts as well as the nuts and bolts of how to put one together and keep it running. I can guarantee that you will learn something. Classes will be taught locally as well as anywhere that someone wants within reason. Below is a link the Youtube video I did, describing some features and the performance of the carbine. Also a pic of me shooting and how the carbine was set up for me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmdjZ...eature=g-all-u

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    Owner/Instructor at Semper Paratus Arms

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    Semper Paratus Arms AR15 Armorer Course http://www.semperparatusarms.com/cou...-registration/

    M4C Misc. Training and Course Announcements- http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=141

    Master Armorer/R&D at SIONICS Weapon Systems- http://sionicsweaponsystems.com

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    Is your beard made out of Kevlar like Costa?

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    Good writeup, and sounds interesting for sure. If nothing else I'd love to have a SIONICS marked lower just because - especially if there is a WerBell actually involved here.

    As an aside: Holy ****, dude, what's your sleeve length??

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    It's a proprietary secret and has to keep that way until my patent is approved.

    Quote Originally Posted by SMETNA View Post
    Is your beard made out of Kevlar like Costa?



    Owner/Instructor at Semper Paratus Arms

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SemperParatusArms/

    Semper Paratus Arms AR15 Armorer Course http://www.semperparatusarms.com/cou...-registration/

    M4C Misc. Training and Course Announcements- http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=141

    Master Armorer/R&D at SIONICS Weapon Systems- http://sionicsweaponsystems.com

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    About 35" or so. But, I like to be able to reach out and hold on to the carbine/rifle when I am shooting and this rail actually allows me to do so comfortably.

    Quote Originally Posted by QuietShootr View Post
    Good writeup, and sounds interesting for sure. If nothing else I'd love to have a SIONICS marked lower just because - especially if there is a WerBell actually involved here.

    As an aside: Holy ****, dude, what's your sleeve length??



    Owner/Instructor at Semper Paratus Arms

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SemperParatusArms/

    Semper Paratus Arms AR15 Armorer Course http://www.semperparatusarms.com/cou...-registration/

    M4C Misc. Training and Course Announcements- http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=141

    Master Armorer/R&D at SIONICS Weapon Systems- http://sionicsweaponsystems.com

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    Gorilla's have long arms.

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    I saw this and said hey, awesome! A vid with IG in it, it'll be good to put a face with the name. Then I saw the face.

    Just kidd'n'..... good stuff, great to see you putting your knowledge to good use with a reputable mfgr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    It's a proprietary secret and has to keep that way until my patent is approved.
    I've always wondered what the revered Iraqgunz looked like....now I find out he has a super secret squirrel beard

    good review and very nice rifle

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't x-ray testing considered a destructive test, whereas MPI is a non-destructive test?

    What effects do the the 2 x-ray test have on the barrel?
    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    Anybody that owns or sells pistol versions of assault rifles is a bottom feeder, irregardless of the ban status of certain ammunition.

    They are illigetimate weapons that have no real purpose other than to attract retards to the gun community.

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