AR15 and S12 together forever

[defcon]

Finally finished my first AR15. I was going for a Riflegear midlength upper but I got a good deal for a PSA upper that just came in. I need to clean and lube it up for the range next weekend. I've never shot an AR15 before so I'm excited. I won't be buying optics anytime soon so I'm excited to learn how to shoot with iron sights. It's just for paper targets only.

Also will this cheek riser work with a charging handle? I'm using a 4 position stock? I can pull the charging handle back but I'm not sure if this will interfere.

Currently watching youtube vids on how to deal with common AR15 malfunctions.

Purchasing an ARMS 40L rear BUIS.

Also I did the conversion myself on the Saiga 12.

PSA Complete upper 16" carbine
Spikes Lower (Spider)
BCM BCG
BCM C/H Mod 4
Magwell grip
CASV clone
Raddlock button
Magpul
AFG
MOE stock
Cheeck Riser
DPMS LPK
DPMS buffer tube
PMAG 10/30


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[hotbiggun42]

Have fun with it. Shoot the shit out of it and update your post with your results.
The cheek riser looks unnecessary and will be in the way. I am not sure if i would use the magwell for a handgrip either. For safety concerns.

The S12 looks like it would be a blast to shoot

[Failure2Stop]

The second this thread gets out of line I am going to hand out infractions and delete posts.

There is some clear montoring opportunity here, but don't be rude.

[defcon]

Have fun with it. Shoot the shit out of it and update your post of the results.
The cheek riser looks unnecessary and will be in the way. I am not sure if i would use the magwell for a handgrip either. For safety concerns.

The S12 looks like it would be a blast to shoot

im comfortable with the magwell grip but ill be using this with my .22 CMMG conversion kit.

i understand that its bad to use a magwell grip with .223 for a possible kaboom which can blow off my hand. ill be using the AFG when i shoot .223 rounds instead of the magwell grip.

yes i know i dont have 3 hands.

ya i wasnt sure if i needed a cheek riser because i thought it would interfere with the charging handle. ill find out if i can chamber a round with the cheek riser on. i honestly got it because i thought it looked good. ill learn after i shoot it.

also its comfortable with the stock fully extended at the 4 position. i can pull the charging handle back.

will be purchasing a real CASV if a used one pops up in the market.

[defcon]

MaTech


KAC 600M Rear flip up

[fallenromeo]

Do you mind telling us how much the setup cost you?

[6933]

Buying something b/c it looks good isn't a wise choice. At this point all it has done is add weight. Same with magwell grip. DPMS would not be my first choice. Or second. But, live and learn. That's why this site is great. Except that F2S has stopped the fun before it could begin.

[defcon]

Do you mind telling us how much the setup cost you?

$1100 with tax

[GTifosi]

The cheek riser is intended to be used with optics that are raised well above the plane of the upper.
Like a scope on top of a carry handle or very high risers.

With it in place and using no items like that, I'm fairly certain you're literally not going to be able to get a good line of sight through the irons.

The magwell grip is kinda unloved not for the chance of an explosion, but because it isn't a very stable hold as it leaves the whole of the barrel, handguards etc. unsupported.
It also it transitions poorly between point targets. You can get things moving easily enough, but you'll never get it stopped in time without literally overshooting the target and having to pull back.

Both can be emulated to an extreme degree using a golf club or baseball bat.
Hold by one end with one hand with it straight out horizontal and look at the other end. Not too stable is it.
Then, pick a light switch and wall outlet on the same wall in the same room, and with the same horizontal hold try to point quickly from one to the other.
Slow to get moving, hard to stop and must be drug back onto the target, right?

Those issues will assuredly happen to some degree or another when using a magwell grip.
Having such occur constitutes poor muzzle control.
Poor muzzle control = danger to everyone around.

[defcon]

Buying something b/c it looks good isn't a wise choice. At this point all it has done is add weight. Same with magwell grip. DPMS would not be my first choice. Or second. But, live and learn. That's why this site is great. Except that F2S has stopped the fun before it could begin.

weight isnt an issue. its just for paper targets. i have no interest in taking classes or doing competition.

what would be a better choice over DPMS?