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    Surefire Scout Light LED upgrade?

    Picked up a really cheap Scout Light recently. It is in really good shape and working condition but has an incandescant head/bulb (MN03 I was told) assembly. Think this makes it an M600B model?

    The output is only 65 lumens from what I read on Surefire's site which seems fine but was wondering if upgrading to an LED head/bulb would be worthwhile. What I am looking for are cost effective options for upgrading to LED if so. I see if necessary I can get replacement MN03's for like $20.

    I'm civ not LE/MIL and live in a pretty urbanized area so I dont see myself crawling through the bush taking on baddies. But I agree with many of the SME's that having a light on your longarm is worthwhile even if for just in case.

    Thanks!

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    Malkoff drop-in + their VME head is a great setup. TNVC also makes a complete head assembly. No experience with it though.

    I bought a used E1b body and put a VME head with M31 drop-in to make a DIY mini scout light. So far I'm pleased with the performance.

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    VME and Malkoff head is a good option but it might just be cheaper to get a KX2C head.
    They're what the current scout lights use. 200 lumens with the TIR optic. I've come across them for around 100 bucks at a few places.

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    KX2C is what I run on mine. It's been a phenomenal performer.
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    Thanks for the info.

    Saw the Surefire upgrade (cheapest I've seen it is $119 so far) but am looking into the other recommendations to see what is the most cost effective.

    The TNVC one looks pretty nice and priced right vs. the SF one.

    Checked on the VME/M61 setup but looks like the VME heads are out of stock currently.

    Time to do some research/review search on the above to see which may be the better choice.

    Thanks again!

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    The KX2C appears to be in-stock here:

    http://www.batteryjunction.com/fl-sf...x2c-bk-wh.html
    Last edited by uwe1; 07-20-12 at 23:21.

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    I got in an XP-G2 setup pumping out about 380 lumens...


    ...and left my KX2C in place. You simply cannot beat the TIR optic with the XR-E pill driven at about 0.8-1.0A for throw. Spill? Sure. But you won't be out-throwing your KX2C very easily by any meaningful margin.

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    If you go for the KX2C post a WTB add on the EE. You may find one quick. There's probably a few guys on here wanting to go to Vampire (KM2) heads and would be willing to sell the KX2C.

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    I posted this in the other thread and figured it may help here just for reference.

    The m600 is getting a bump to 250 lumens while the m300a mini scout is getting a bump to 170 or 200 lumens. In addition, by February there will a 500 lumen scout head available.

    It's amazing how far we've come. Not long ago the advertising was "60 lumens of blinding light".
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    I must've missed the part about the 500 lumen scout head. Thanks for that. Was wondering when that was gonna happen. This is another reason I love Defender, LX2, and Scout series of lights. The parts can be swapped out/upgraded. No need to buy an entirely new light. How I wish X300 lights could do this.

    And yeh it is amazing how far in such a short time lumen output (in particular smaller size lights) has come.

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    It was just confirmed a few days ago and I don't think there's been an official announcement yet.
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    Copy that Jon. Thanks again,

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    170-200 lumen M300A you say? Awesome!

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    The 300b mini scout with 200 lumens will be available mid November, as should the m600 with 250 lumens. The 500 lumen m600u will be available in February.
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    Thanks for the heads up. I was gonna get another M300A, but I'm gonna wait for the new model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBecker 72 View Post
    Thanks for the heads up. I was gonna get another M300A, but I'm gonna wait for the new model.

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    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...men-Flashlight

    Surefire has a nasty habit of pushing back deadlines. When it finally does see the market though, it is as advertised, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...men-Flashlight

    Surefire has a nasty habit of pushing back deadlines. When it finally does see the market though, it is as advertised, though!
    True, I'm curious if this will be like the X300 Ultra. I thought that was gonna be available 6 months ago.

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    Is there any hard data on this, or just second hand reports from sf dealers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    Is there any hard data on this, or just second hand reports from sf dealers?
    Hard data that a scout ultra head will be available? It was posted by a Surefire employee and he said it was confirmed, not just a some day type of thing. As to a document, I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonconsiglio View Post
    Hard data that a scout ultra head will be available? It was posted by a Surefire employee and he said it was confirmed, not just a some day type of thing. As to a document, I don't know.
    JC knows what he is talking about as we both have the same source on this.

    Again hard data no, but our source is a SF rep. we + known SMEs/trainers trust.

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