Never owned an AR...building my first one starting now

[Iraqgunz]

I am actually a little sick and tired of people saying that you can use a set of Vise-grips over this or there is no need to hammer a roll pin, just crush it push it through.

If you are too cheap to buy the correct tools (starter punches, roll pin punches, or standard punches) and too cheap to buy the proper wrenches, blocks, etc... leave it to those that aren't.

I also don't think that displaying the wrong tools being used sends a good message to other newbies. One thing for sure is that there is no way some of the above would have left the shop and went to a customer looking like that.

[lunchbox]

I am actually a little sick and tired of people saying that you can use a set of Vise-grips over this or there is no need to hammer a roll pin, just crush it push it through.

If you are too cheap to buy the correct tools (starter punches, roll pin punches, or standard punches) and too cheap to buy the proper wrenches, blocks, etc... leave it to those that aren't.

I also don't think that displaying the wrong tools being used sends a good message to other newbies. One thing for sure is that there is no way some of the above would have left the shop and went to a customer looking like that.

I actually shuddered and cringed when I read that about vice grips.

[lunchbox]

and a magnet to help with the little PITA pins


Looking forward to seeing how this rifle progresses. What do you plan to use it for?

Love the telescoping magnet as well as magnet bowl http://www.sears.com/craftsman-magne...p-00941328000P

[Stopsign32v]

If you are too cheap to buy the correct tools (starter punches, roll pin punches, or standard punches) and too cheap to buy the proper wrenches, blocks, etc... leave it to those that aren't.

I'm most definately not a cheap person but if I can walk a straight line and get to the goal instead of walking around an object I will take the straight line every time. Did you fail to see where I had bought a set of punches? Not only that but it's my money so why do you care how I do it?

I also don't think that displaying the wrong tools being used sends a good message to other newbies. One thing for sure is that there is no way some of the above would have left the shop and went to a customer looking like that.

I got detailed instructions from an AR15 site how to use the vice grips with step by step pictures. So how is that "doing it wrong"? I can supply the link I used that way you can contact them to have it taken down since that isn't the correct way.

Lastly I don't own a gunsmithing shop nor do I plan to so how my weapons would leave and go to my imaginary customers doesn't matter.


**It's a late/bad night at work so if anything seems out of line I apologize but I found your post very distasteful, especially for a moderator with your amount of posts.

[Merle]

Some people seem to think these things require rocket science.

[lunchbox]

I'm most definately not a cheap person but if I can walk a straight line and get to the goal instead of walking around an object I will take the straight line every time. Did you fail to see where I had bought a set of punches? Not only that but it's my money so why do you care how I do it?




I got detailed instructions from an AR15 site how to use the vice grips with step by step pictures. So how is that "doing it wrong"? I can supply the link I used that way you can contact them to have it taken down since that isn't the correct way.

Lastly I don't own a gunsmithing shop nor do I plan to so how my weapons would leave and go to my imaginary customers doesn't matter.


**It's a late/bad night at work so if anything seems out of line I apologize but I found your post very distasteful, especially for a moderator with your amount of posts.

Was this site ar15.com? Usally professionals dont like unprofesional advise (I get told all the time) If you took a little pride in your work, you just might get customers. I have made a couple of dollars here and there just by a random people impressed with my home build.

[Stopsign32v]

Was this site ar15.com? Usally professionals dont like unprofesional advise (I get told all the time) If you took a little pride in your work, you just might get customers. I have made a couple of dollars here and there just by a random people impressed with my home build.

I have a good job and I do this on the side just like I race on the side. If I had someone ask me to build them a gun I'd tell them the same thing I tell people that ask me to work on their car or build a motor for them. "Thanks but I don't work on other people's things, I only work on my own."

This was the first gun I've ever put together. One of the reasons I decided to go with a $70 lower over the $250 lower I wanted is because I knew I was learning at this point, not because I'm cheap. This hobby using the best of the best is WAY cheaper than my other hobby!




And lets please not turn this into a pissing match or anything. This is my gun and this was the way I decided to build it.

[lunchbox]

I have a good job and I do this on the side just like I race on the side. If I had someone ask me to build them a gun I'd tell them the same thing I tell people that ask me to work on their car or build a motor for them. "Thanks but I don't work on other people's things, I only work on my own."

This was the first gun I've ever put together. One of the reasons I decided to go with a $70 lower over the $250 lower I wanted is because I knew I was learning at this point, not because I'm cheap. This hobby using the best of the best is WAY cheaper than my other hobby!




And lets please not turn this into a pissing match or anything. This is my gun and this was the way I decided to build it.

Exactly what IG was saying about giving out advice, maybe you shold have told them what may work on your with your satisfaction might not be for them. Noobs reading may think this good idea on their$250 lower.

[Stopsign32v]

Exactly what IG was saying about giving out advice, maybe you shold have told them what may work on your with your satisfaction might not be for them. Noobs reading may think this good idea on their$250 lower.

Well if they do think it's a good idea then I hope they read where I put what I would have done differently with the tape. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

[M4Fundi]

I'm most definately not a cheap person but if I can walk a straight line and get to the goal instead of walking around an object I will take the straight line every time. Did you fail to see where I had bought a set of punches? Not only that but it's my money so why do you care how I do it?....

**It's a late/bad night at work so if anything seems out of line I apologize but I found your post very distasteful, especially for a moderator with your amount of posts.

"...distasteful,..." Yes, you are right Iraqgunz doesn't taste very good, but he is nourishing, so just listen to him, roll with the punches and all will be well inside your AR... welcome to M4C