Glock Froglube vs FIREclean

**WS6** · 05-01-13, 21:08

Originally Posted by Littlelebowski

Just looked at Rand CLP. They lost me at "nano infused."

Whatever works. I love the stuff, and the lab data backs it. I agree that the catch-phrase is over-used, but what else would you call it? It's a technical description. "Nanoparticle" is a scientific term for a particle 1-100nanometers in size. "Infused" goes without needing definition. If a product contains a base oil ("vegetable" is what Rand claims, dunno which veggie...) that has a certain percentage by weight of particles in this size added to it, then what else should it be called? I get what you mean about the negative connotation, but it really is an accurate term if factual, and Rand Innovations does exactly what the name implies.

**Littlelebowski** · 05-02-13, 11:16

Originally Posted by WS6

Whatever works. I love the stuff, and the lab data backs it. I agree that the catch-phrase is over-used, but what else would you call it? It's a technical description. "Nanoparticle" is a scientific term for a particle 1-100nanometers in size. "Infused" goes without needing definition. If a product contains a base oil ("vegetable" is what Rand claims, dunno which veggie...) that has a certain percentage by weight of particles in this size added to it, then what else should it be called? I get what you mean about the negative connotation, but it really is an accurate term if factual, and Rand Innovations does exactly what the name implies.

You're probably right but the marketing term....it burns.

**AKDoug** · 05-02-13, 23:04

Lets face it, the best rust preventative for guns is cosmonline..but it's lousy lube. Because of where I live I value my gun lubes in a different order than somebody in LA or FL. Storage moisture generally isn't an issue here, so rust preventative is low on my list. If it provides good lubricity, ease of carbon cleanup, and good cold weather performance; those are the most important things to me. I certainly can understand why rust prevention would be a huge issue in some areas.

**WS6** · 05-03-13, 00:29

Originally Posted by AKDoug

Lets face it, the best rust preventative for guns is cosmonline..but it's lousy lube. Because of where I live I value my gun lubes in a different order than somebody in LA or FL. Storage moisture generally isn't an issue here, so rust preventative is low on my list. If it provides good lubricity, ease of carbon cleanup, and good cold weather performance; those are the most important things to me. I certainly can understand why rust prevention would be a huge issue in some areas.

I would think due to condensation, Alaska would make corrosion prevention an important factor, as well.

**AKDoug** · 05-03-13, 20:00

Depends where you are at. Since our land mass is 1/5 of the U.S. you can imagine that there are many different areas of the state. I pulled a 1917 Enfield barreled action out of my shed the other day that was just tossed onto the top of some boxes 18 years ago . A couple tiny specs of rust that I don't even know if they were there before I threw it in there. I have guns projects that are in the top of my closet for that long also without any preservative (oil or anything else) that haven't rusted a bit.

I've been using Fireclean since the beginning of the winter and I haven't had an issue with rust. However, you can see by the other guns I have, rust never is an issue where I live. They get wet all the time, but overall the humidity is so low that once dried and in storage they really don't have a problem anyway. Condensation can be an issue. I've brought guns in from the cold and have them condensate badly. However, I've yet to have one rust because of it. Especially any AR with proper military phosphate coating on it's steel parts.

**WS6** · 05-03-13, 21:53

Originally Posted by AKDoug

Depends where you are at. Since our land mass is 1/5 of the U.S. you can imagine that there are many different areas of the state. I pulled a 1917 Enfield barreled action out of my shed the other day that was just tossed onto the top of some boxes 18 years ago . A couple tiny specs of rust that I don't even know if they were there before I threw it in there. I have guns projects that are in the top of my closet for that long also without any preservative (oil or anything else) that haven't rusted a bit.

I've been using Fireclean since the beginning of the winter and I haven't had an issue with rust. However, you can see by the other guns I have, rust never is an issue where I live. They get wet all the time, but overall the humidity is so low that once dried and in storage they really don't have a problem anyway. Condensation can be an issue. I've brought guns in from the cold and have them condensate badly. However, I've yet to have one rust because of it. Especially any AR with proper military phosphate coating on it's steel parts.

I always figured all of Alaska got cold during the winter. I guess kindof how people think all of la is a swamp.

**Hawaiianbro10** · 09-20-13, 15:03

I have used both and I will say after shooting 500 rounds some rapid some paced that fireclean fends to be a little cleaner looking than frog lube though I don't see much of a difference. I usually tend to buy which ever is cheapest when I need gun lube.

I am curious about the mobile1 idea what weight do u use? 0w/20 5w/20?

**BoringGuy45** · 09-20-13, 22:19

Fireclean intrigues me, but I've got everything covered in Froglube. I don't know if I should clean them all off and start over, or just keep using FL...

*Sigh* every time I get something cool, something cooler comes out...