The US IWI Tavor (pics)

[Ick]

Now is your chance as the first one has hit Gunbroker. Here it is:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=333862335

Sweet... althought FDE would be better....

[Dave I]

Sweet... althought FDE would be better....

So would getting it for retail costs. Unless you're racing some sort of ban, I do not get overpaying to that extent to get something that is being introduced into the market and that, if you wait a little big, you can get for ~MSRP.

-Cheers

[Bret]

Unless you're racing some sort of ban, I do not get overpaying to that extent to get something that is being introduced into the market and that, if you wait a little big, you can get for ~MSRP.

+1
I predict these will be $1500 in a year. Then I'll throw down my dough.

[Ick]

+1
I predict these will be $1500 in a year. Then I'll throw down my dough.

I second that motion. Best to wait... although I will say this: is an extra $1,000 really that big of a deal for something you are passionate about and want to acquire?

For example, I was at a sporting event and beverages were selling for $7. I could wait just a short time until after the game and purchase the same beverage outside the event at half the cost.

Might be not financially sound but I was thirsty, the beverage was what I wanted, and it was handy.

Same thing here. I understand why guys are buying it at a higher price. Their reasons are clear to me... for I recognize their familiar desire to just do it.

I don't fault them for it or call them fools, I rejoice in the free market that allows the prices to match demand.

[Sensei]

I second that motion. Best to wait... although I will say this: is an extra $1,000 really that big of a deal for something you are passionate about and want to acquire?

For example, I was at a sporting event and beverages were selling for $7. I could wait just a short time until after the game and purchase the same beverage outside the event at half the cost.

Might be not financially sound but I was thirsty, the beverage was what I wanted, and it was handy.

Same thing here. I understand why guys are buying it at a higher price. Their reasons are clear to me... for I recognize their familiar desire to just do it.

I don't fault them for it or call them fools, I rejoice in the free market that allows the prices to match demand.

Did you just compare the purchase of a $2000+ rifle with a $7 drink? One is about 5% of the US mean salary and the other is less than 0.02%. You must be one of those evil 1-percenters.

[Ick]

Did you just compare the purchase of a $2000+ rifle with a $7 drink? One is about 5% of the US mean salary and the other is less than 0.02%. You must be one of those evil 1-percenters.

lol. I think of it this way.....

The purchase habits of a middle income couple with kids is quite different than, say, a young professional couple that works all the time... with no kids.

Their purchase and buying habits SHOULD be different. Affording a $1,000 "mistake" is not really relative to income, it is more relative to other SPENDING.

Lets say, for example, someone was wise enough a few years ago to avoid buying-in on the idea of purchasing "the most expensive house and cars that we can possibly afford".

Furthermore, some families smoke 5 packs a week = $1,800 a year.
...so if someone, instead, buys one overpriced rifle per year... they would still be better off.

I guess that is why it is a free country.

[bnanaphone]

+1
I predict these will be $1500 in a year. Then I'll throw down my dough.

I can completely understand waiting for prices to level out before buying. I just don't think you will ever find one for $1,500. That is like waiting for the $1,500 ACR (people said the same when they came out). I think you may be able to get one for around $1,800 or so in a year, but not likely any cheaper.

When the OBR was first released, the Larue group buy was $2,500 and look at prices now.

[Dave I]

I can completely understand waiting for prices to level out before buying. I just don't think you will ever find one for $1,500. That is like waiting for the $1,500 ACR (people said the same when they came out). I think you may be able to get one for around $1,800 or so in a year, but not likely any cheaper.

When the OBR was first released, the Larue group buy was $2,500 and look at prices now.

Yeah, I think a 25% drop in price is a shade too optimistic.

I second that motion. Best to wait... although I will say this: is an extra $1,000 really that big of a deal for something you are passionate about and want to acquire?

[snip]

I don't fault them for it or call them fools, I rejoice in the free market that allows the prices to match demand.

Is it that big of a deal? To some, maybe most, no. To me, it actually is a bit. I'm one of those married-with-two-kids types, so $1k can go kind of a long way. If I am being perfectly honest, that is not the real reason.

The reason I think it is a big deal is I am paying somebody for being opportunistic and upcharging dramatically over MSRP, and for what? For the opportunity of having something a relatively short amount of time sooner than I would have gotten it in the first place? Perhaps for up to (or over) double MSRP, so if I had waited I could have gotten two of them for the same money.

It may just be me and my quirks, however that does not sit well with me.

-Cheers

[Larry Vickers]

I'd take the bet the gun's won't be $1500 within a year

I personally don't see that happening

Could be wrong but we shall see

[TurretGunner]

+1
I predict these will be $1500 in a year. Then I'll throw down my dough.

How long have RFB's and SCAR17's been out? How much do they cost?