The US IWI Tavor (pics)

[TurretGunner]

It appears to be a nice gun, but own the market? I don't see this thing even overtaking the scar in popularity, let alone owning the market.

Yes , it will own the non AR market. Like I said, the others like AUG/FS/SCAR/XCR/ACR/ect will not be able to compete with this rifle, at this price point.

[TurretGunner]

The $1400/$1500 FS2000's were made with "military contract overrun" parts FN wanted to get rid of. The difference were primarily in the bolt carrier finish or something like that.

http://fnforum.net/forums/fn-fs2000/...curse-not.html

There is a better thread on that website explaining the $1500 price but I'm too lazy to look for it.

To be fair, guys with 9000-series guns say they run just as good, but who knows in the long run.

It was more like, we can't sell these pieces of shit, so we will blow them out below dist price.

On top of that, we will require anyone wanting to buy FN guns, to buy a whole dealer package with FS/P90 as well, or we wont sell you high demand items like SCARS and FN SPR's.

[Turnkey11]

IWI is looking at the BEST bullpup on the market (hands down). On top of this, there are 9mm and 5.45 options for it (three guns in one if you will).
Couple this with the fact that the retail price of $2k is VERY reasonable.

IMHO, the only way you will see them come down in price is if the dealer is short on cash or the distributor cuts discounts to the dealers. This commonly takes years to play out and wouldn't expect it for at least the rest of Obama's term.


C4

What makes it better than an AUG, which also has caliber and barrel change options?

[BigNog]

Yes , it will own the non AR market. Like I said, the others like AUG/FS/SCAR/XCR/ACR/ect will not be able to compete with this rifle, at this price point.

And you're basing this on...?

[C4IGrant]

What makes it better than an AUG, which also has caliber and barrel change options?

1. Price
2. Ergo's
3. Trigger
4. Parts availability (in the very near future)



C4

[VIP3R 237]

So basically I need one. Im hoping where im a lefty they will be slightly easier to get a hold of. Grant are you getting any in?

[C4IGrant]

So basically I need one. Im hoping where im a lefty they will be slightly easier to get a hold of. Grant are you getting any in?

We only got a couple in. Have a bunch on order though.



C4

[Sensei]

We only got a couple in. Have a bunch on order though.



C4

Do you have a waiting list?

[VIP3R 237]

Do you have a waiting list?

We only got a couple in. Have a bunch on order though.



C4

Very good question. Either way you'll be getting my money in either a Tavor or BCM A4 rifle.

[Bret]

This is going to be the rifle to own in the near future. It may even replace the M4 in some applications and be a viable carbine to be used for heavy use. It is one of the best designed personal weapons in a LONG time. The modularity and the easy of strip down beats even the M4.

If anything, you will see scar16/xcr/aug prices start to drop because around the 2k price, this will own the market.

At the same price as an M4, things may turn out like you say. At twice the price, there's no way. It may end up being a much better weapon, but government budgets simply won't allow for that much of a difference save for specialized use.