Project: Break my J frame.

**The Dumb Gun Collector** · 10-23-12, 21:25

I ditched the hogue grips for the laser grips. No doubt, the laser grips are much better for speed loaders.

So far I haven't had any screws come loose. But I did have that pop up with my 442.

**Magic_Salad0892** · 10-24-12, 19:02

Originally Posted by Greg Bell

I ditched the hogue grips for the laser grips. No doubt, the laser grips are much better for speed loaders.

So far I haven't had any screws come loose. But I did have that pop up with my 442.

How do grips effect speed loading, Greg?

**The Dumb Gun Collector** · 10-24-12, 19:21

With the HKS speedloaders the rubber grips rub a bit.

**GrandPooba** · 10-24-12, 20:20

Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892

How do grips effect speed loading, Greg?

the grip gets in the way of some speedloaders preventing you from aligning it straight down into the cylinder

**tpd223** · 10-25-12, 12:46

Back in the day when coppers started using speedloaders instead of loops or dump pouches finding grips, or modding the grips you had, to function with speedloaders was a very big deal.

There are lots of grips that will cause a speedloader to bind up when trying to do the reload, especially at speed when you don't have everything lined up perfectly.

**Magic_Salad0892** · 10-26-12, 00:17

Thanks, guys.

**The Dumb Gun Collector** · 10-28-12, 19:05

100 more rounds today. 50 rounds of very light lead federal. I noticed I am getting ridiculously high up on the grip. I noticed that the xs sight pretty much hits poa/poi if you really sink the dot deep in the notch. I am now about 90% as accurate as with my M&P 40. I can keep all my rounds inside a sheet of paper even with all my moving and weak hand drills.

**Sgt_Gold** · 10-31-12, 11:45

Are you using Jerry Miculek's J frame grip? I stumbled upon holding the gun this way but I think he thought of it first. Second picture from the bottom.

http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/.../miculek2.html