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    10,000-20,000 shoulder fired rockets go missing in Libya

    Heard the congressional hearing excerpt on the radio this morning. Nothing on YouTube yet. If one of these brings down a passenger airliner in Europe. This looks to be the smoking gun for the White House deflection/outright lie that the ambassadors, security detail deaths were due to a video.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/20-0...-missing-libya

    Edit: regular RPGs? The excerpt of Dennis kucinich talking was specifically talking about sams so who knows.
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    I stayed up until 11 pm last night watching the hearings on CSPAN.

    The Congressman asked how many shoulder fired missiles capable of bringing down an airliner were "out there", "on the loose", or whatever term he used.

    The witness answered (with what seemed like a pregnant pause to gulp another lung full of air): "Ten to twenty......thousand."

    The way the question was answered just made your sphincter pucker in new and chilling ways.
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    Tens of thousands of MANPADS unaccounted for? Our foreign aid dollars well spent.
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    We've known these were in the wind for quite some time now. The second, more heavily fortified clandestine location in Benghazi that was revealed publicly by the DoS in yesterday's hearings was the base of operations for DoS efforts to recover as many of them as possible.

    This is a catastrophe waiting to happen.

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    I hope Romney's people are watching this..Another excellant example of how well Barry has done in the middle east..This would make a interesting topic of discussion during the next debate, seeing how's it's going to be on Foreign Policy...
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    10-20,000 sure is a vague number and WTF is a "shoulder-to-air" missile? Since Libya is a former military weapons client of the Soviet Union, and the author of the article is an idiot when it comes to math and Soviet-era weapons we can surmise that Kimberly is either talking about SA-7 Grails or RPGs. From the math, I think she is most likely talking about RPGs, as they are easier to stockpile in quantity, as apposed to the Grail, which is quite the opposite. Shoulder-fired SAM's require regular upkeep. This is why none of those Stingers given to the mujahideen have ever been used; the propellant, seeker-head coolant, and batteries have long ago died, turned to goo, or lost their effectiveness. Any SA-7s sold to Libya during the Soviet Era would be in the same boat without regular depot level maintenance to keep them operational. Do you think the Libyans were capable of performing depot level maintenance on a SA-7? I doubt their military could keep a toaster running based on the capability of their air force. Not to mention that just 10,000 SA-7's would fill a container ship and cost half a billions dollars (low-balling it at $50,000 per unit at 10,000 units) shows the article is just a bit on the factually deficient side. I'm pretty sure Kimberly didn't do any fact checking with Jane's ("Jane, who's Jane?") before she whipped up this fine piece of "journalism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmrtnsn View Post
    10-20,000 sure is a vague number and WTF is a "shoulder-to-air" missile? Since Libya is a former military weapons client of the Soviet Union, and the author of the article is an idiot when it comes to math and Soviet-era weapons we can surmise that Kimberly is either talking about SA-7 Grails or RPGs. From the math, I think she is most likely talking about RPGs, as they are easier to stockpile in quantity, as apposed to the Grail, which is quite the opposite. Shoulder-fired SAM's require regular upkeep. This is why none of those Stingers given to the mujahideen have ever been used; the propellant, seeker-head coolant, and batteries have long ago died, turned to goo, or lost their effectiveness. Any SA-7s sold to Libya during the Soviet Era would be in the same boat without regular depot level maintenance to keep them operational. Do you think the Libyans were capable of performing depot level maintenance on a SA-7? I doubt their military could keep a toaster running based on the capability of their air force. Not to mention that just 10,000 SA-7's would fill a container ship and cost half a billions dollars (low-balling it at $50,000 per unit at 10,000 units) shows the article is just a bit on the factually deficient side. I'm pretty sure Kimberly didn't do any fact checking with Jane's ("Jane, who's Jane?") before she whipped up this fine piece of "journalism".
    I agree with this assessment. My only concern would be if Putin or China was selling more updated systems to Libya just prior to the revolution. It would only take a few dozen to create real problems.
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