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    TGI AMD-65 first thoughts(pics inside)

    Ok, another poster wanted me to do a review since I stated I was waiting on my new AMD to arrive. First off ill state I have other HD weapons this was more of a range toy. That out of the way, I placed an order through JG sales for a Hungarian AMD-65 last Thursday. It is supposed to be factory new built by FEG, which seems to be a decent company. It arrived at my shop today. I went there with my fingers crossed hoping that a 450 dollar AK variant wouldn't be an epic turd. This is what she looks like right out of the box. (sorry iphone pics, its all I have)


    The paint finish is good enough as I plan on repainting it anyways. I think it is ugly but awesome at the same time. First I checked the sights...holy shit no cant. Plus 1 for me. Secondly the receiver is as tight as a gnats ass stretched across a bass drum. Not a hint of flex ANYWHERE. All the rivets are pressed in correctly and the muzzle devise is welded although shitily seems to hold very well.


    I opened her up and everything seems new and all matching numbers. Also another win since the factory barrels are chrome lined. Also the ejector seems to be in spec and not deformed it also looks to cut through the bolt correctly. Sorry I couldnt really get a pic of that.


    Another concern was the mag well. If I recall correctly these are built on a sa-2000m recievers which are originally single stack and cut to fit double stack mags. Overall I was quite impressed with the cut, it seems to be very well done and no burrs to be found. Also it locks up tight with the provided crapco mag yay. No wiggle at all. Unfortunately I dont have any other mags to test this with as of right now.


    The action is nice and smooth and the G2 trigger is light and I have no real complaints. I hand cycled some silver bear soft points and they all fed. Figured this would be a decent test since SP ammo and AK's dont always get along. The wire stock is solid. The button is extremely hard to push in, but Id rather have that than a loose one. Also seen people bitch about not getting a cheek weld with it, all I have to say is that it is more of a jawbone weld and isnt as bad as other have stated. Over all cant wait to test fire this thing. The muzzle break is ridiculous and is supposedly a flame thrower. Here are a few more random pics I took. I add in that future mods will include new grip, rail ,sling and a light, but gotta test fire her first. Also this is my first real review with pics, dont be affraid to flame away I can use the critisism.


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    Congrats, It looks well worth 450 bucks to me.. I guess the range report will really tell.. Thank you for taking the time and posting this and taking pictures.. Very much appreciated, I'm trying to learn what i can about AK's right now. I'm going to check out jg sales.
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    Shit, I'd buy one if I had the money. Looks good to me!

    Don't forget the range report when you get her out there for some real fun.
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    Will be doing a range report as soon as I can. Supporting 3 kids on unemployment and post 9-11 GI bill can be tough to get a good assortment of ammo and mags. Thanks for looking.

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    Looks like a great find! I hope everything else works out for ya.
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    Why are AMD-65s so popular? They seem to have a lot of undesirable features, such as a terrible wire stock, metal handguards, exposed gas tube, non-ergonomic foregrip, loud, permanent muzzle device. I've handled them before and can't see what the attraction is. Are they amazingly accurate? Soft shooters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911-A1 View Post
    Why are AMD-65s so popular? They seem to have a lot of undesirable features, such as a terrible wire stock, metal handguards, exposed gas tube, non-ergonomic foregrip, loud, permanent muzzle device. I've handled them before and can't see what the attraction is. Are they amazingly accurate? Soft shooters?
    AFAIK they are attractive because they are an AK that functions and is easily found for <$500.

    I agree. They need a fair amount of work. I've yet to see a sub $1K AK that doesn't though...

    Need a new brake(which for most means sending the rifle off to someone).
    Need a new lower HG.
    Needs an upper HG period.
    Stock needs a riser.

    If someone dropped on in my lap for $300 I'd happily play with it.

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    My interested was caught by the fact that they are unusual amd light weight. I agree it needs a different hand guard. Im looking at the MI/us palm combo set up for a t1. The stock does leave a little to be desired, but its not half as terrible as some make it out to be I think I will just wrap it in papra cord and call it good. Overall a new factory built AK that has a good rep for working for under 500 bucks, I couldn't pass that up. rumor is that they are really soft shooters and have outstanding accuracy even with the sort sight radius. also if one wants to sbr it,then it will be set up like they are originally designed. Only bummer to report is not being able to use surplus mags till I replace 2 parts, so Im stuck with crapco or US palm.

    Ill also add that replacing the muzzle devise is easy. Buy one, several are made that aren't as loud. Take it to a muffler shop and grind the weld then install the new flash hider/break/whatever and pay the guy 5 bucks to spot weld it and your done. Dont need to send it off anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddawg5777 View Post
    My interested was caught by the fact that they are unusual amd light weight. I agree it needs a different hand guard. Im looking at the MI/us palm combo set up for a t1. The stock does leave a little to be desired, but its not half as terrible as some make it out to be I think I will just wrap it in papra cord and call it good. Overall a new factory built AK that has a good rep for working for under 500 bucks, I couldn't pass that up. rumor is that they are really soft shooters and have outstanding accuracy even with the sort sight radius. also if one wants to sbr it,then it will be set up like they are originally designed. Only bummer to report is not being able to use surplus mags till I replace 2 parts, so Im stuck with crapco or US palm.

    Ill also add that replacing the muzzle devise is easy. Buy one, several are made that aren't as loud. Take it to a muffler shop and grind the weld then install the new flash hider/break/whatever and pay the guy 5 bucks to spot weld it and your done. Dont need to send it off anywhere.
    I might be mistaken. I was under the impression the brake is what keeps the barrel at >16".
    Removing that while in possession of the receiver moves into weird legal territory. Those with a specific ATF license, SOT I believe?, can do this with no issue. Hence why most people send this work off.
    I agree the machining work is simple. Was speaking from a legal perspective.

    This is the best example I've seen of converting an AMD to a worthy rifle:
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    They are nice. I love mine. See my review on same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911-A1 View Post
    Why are AMD-65s so popular? ...
    $459.00 shipped. That's why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesavery22 View Post
    I might be mistaken. I was under the impression the brake is what keeps the barrel at >16".
    Removing that while in possession of the receiver moves into weird legal territory. Those with a specific ATF license, SOT I believe?, can do this with no issue. Hence why most people send this work off.
    I agree the machining work is simple. Was speaking from a legal perspective.
    You are right it does keep the barrel at 16". But if the weld was to break and you re-weld it, oh well. Its not like sending it off to get fixed doesn't take time to get figured out. What do you do then, technically it would be illegal to own but its yours and you need a fix. Grey areas in the law are hard to figure out.

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    Guys, it is all intent. The ATF is not out to make a case against anybody unless need be. If someone turns you in (obviously the ATF doesn't have agents hiding in your bushes), they will investigate you and make a reasonable determination of your intent. If they find you have intentionally shortened this rifle to less than 16", then you will have problems. If you have a weld break, and make efforts to reestablish that weld they are not going to come raid your home and throw you in the federal pen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eng208 View Post
    Guys, it is all intent. The ATF is not out to make a case against anybody unless need be. If someone turns you in (obviously the ATF doesn't have agents hiding in your bushes), they will investigate you and make a reasonable determination of your intent. If they find you have intentionally shortened this rifle to less than 16", then you will have problems. If you have a weld break, and make efforts to reestablish that weld they are not going to come raid your home and throw you in the federal pen.
    Thats exactly how I under stood it. Same goes if you bought an upper thats 14.5" then you attach and weld the brake to make it legal. If your not using the weapon as a sbr your in the clear, I just would suggest fixing it asap and no assclownery showing your friends your awesome illegal rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911-A1 View Post
    Why are AMD-65s so popular?
    Well first off they're 8" shorter than you average AR15 so that's one reason why...
    A Colt LE6920 is 33-1/2" long with the stock collapsed w/a YHM flash hider attached... The AMD65 is only 25-1/2" long with the stock folded to the tip of the FH!! They also have a chrome lined bbl, all parts matching #'s, chambered up in the hard hitting ass stompin' 7.62x39 round all built on a FEG receiver!!!
    They also make an excellent CQB or truck gun with their compact size and being tuff as nails is what makes 'em such a bad MOFO !!! Just think, all that for the very low price of only $429! How can you beat that!!!! And the ammo is cheap too!
    BTW: They can be configured w/ traditional or a tactical AK furniture or w/ AR15 stocks, rails ect. w/little or no mods.

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    get one of these pieces to give you a cheek weld. I have one and its very comfortable afterwards. Much easier to point

    http://www.amd65tech.com/

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    When circumstances forced me to thin the herd down to a single AK my AMD-65 was the one that remained. On paper the obnoxious brake and wire folder made it less than ideal. When bullets met the berm it was the hands down winner. In my hands the AMD-65 handles the best of the various AK variants. I really need to find a way to add another.



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    I'm going to eventually put a hand guard on it similar to my troy trx from carolina shooters supply. I like having both feel similar. during shooting.

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    Thanks for the pics guys!

    Range report! (added video, let me know if it works)
    I picked up a couple hundred rounds of Tula fmj to test for functionality. By the time I made it up the mountain it was getting dark and with the snow front moving in tonight was quite windy. I chose to just throw up a shoot n C target at 50. At first I was about 2 inches right and 2 inches low. At least it was holding a group. A quick adjustment and I set the sights for about an inch high at 50, Ill have to check my 100 yard zero another time.

    Next the few of us passed it around and just ran round through it. Ejection was strong and the crapco mag feed flawlessly. I have to say I was skeptical of the wire folder but found if I put my nose to the rear trunion and just use my body to swallow up the stock it was quick to come on sights and reasonably comfortable. I guess I wont be spending money on a riser. Even though the muzzle break is loud and throws a mean fire ball it did little to impede the irons even in low light.(not that I would want to use it in a pitch black room) Also I have shot several 7.62 ak variants and I have to say this is the sofftest shooting ak I have ever shot. It places equal if not better than my 14.5 middy. I will say this is perceived recoil but all 3 of my fellow "testers" said it didn't have much recoil for them either. I added a shitty blackhawk 3 point sling which seemed to hold up to the heat of the gas tube and barrel(its the one that wraps around the front hand guards, I ran it between the gas tube and barrel). Still looking for another option but it works for now.

    Overall i didn't test for groups much as it was getting dark and my kids were playing in my car waiting but I will say speedy off hand at 50 was an easy 2-3 inch group.

    Final note, for 460 bucks this is not a bad ak variant to purchase. Its not an arsenal or krebs but for the man on a family budget I would put it on the top of the list. No malfunctions in over 100 rounds to report. Also TGI is not importing these anymore so it is only a matter of time before they are all gone.
    http://youtu.be/fagjMdGI5Q0
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    I think you'll like it. I'd put mine up against any arsenal the way I have it now. The Hungarian's quality (minus paint finish) I feel is on par with bulgarian. You'll not notice crappy machining on any of the parts. They even still have round firing pins vs the flat pins used by many.

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