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    Common sense thoughts on what happened in the election

    Please be civil and rational in this thread. If you want to act like a moron, do it one of the other threads.


    I was at my friends Restaurant last night watching the election. Al Landis, Representative for Ohio was having his party in one of the banquet rooms and a small group of Democrats were having some kind of election party in the other part of the restaurant. I was in the middle of them at the bar.

    As a person that is a "people watcher" I found what was going on around me to be pretty interesting. The Republicans (by in large) were clean, neatly dressed (not rich) and reserved throughout the night. The Democrats all looked like they just woke up from bed, clothes looked like they were slept in and pretty much looked like what you would see at a Frat house after an all night party. They were loud and obnoxious. When they came to the bar they were demanding and basically rude.




    Watching all the exit polls (specifically minority voting), it dawned on me that white people WILL vote for a minority (black, Hispanic, etc), but a minority will NOT vote for a white person.

    So what is to be done in order for a Republican to get elected in the future? Get more minorities into the party. The days of trying to get a white guy elected as President are pretty much over I think. The next GOP candidate HAS TO BE black or Hispanic. Luckily, there as some solid choices here and look forward to the next election (if we still are around as a country).


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    Lastly, I will leave you with this. I would like to apologize for the State of Ohio letting everyone down. I did my best to support Romney, but in the end we let you down. I now believe that 80% of the countries populace are functioning idiots (can put gas in their car, make it to work, etc), but they lack the fundamental ability to analyze what is happening around them and make a solid choice for their future.

    Hope is lost.




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    That's alright Grant, Virginia is lost too. I now officially hate living here.

    Yes, hope is lost.
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    Minorities did vote Republican but in fewer numbers than voted Democrat.

    I followed this thing carefully. Conservatism lost versus Liberalism.

    It's as if everyone decided the left of center philosophy is the way to go.

    Alan West is out but Grayson is back in? Are you effing kidding me?

    According to Fox, Ohio went liberal because the labor union types turned out in droves. This is after "Bill Cunningham the Great American" swore Ohio couldn't be lost.
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    Republicans didn't learn their lesson that they should vote for people in the primary they want instead of people they think the other side will like. Unfortunately, it's likely too late to run any candidate that can't outpromise the other side. In four years a solid majority of people will have their hand out.

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    It has to be undone, the way it was done.

    Take over the schools - teach children conservative values

    Take over the press - tell people the conservative message daily

    Take over the entertainment industry - indoctrinate the masses with liberty nightly

    Otherwise, the takers will outnumber the makers forever.

    Now I know how the Romans in Britain felt as the last Legion embarked on their ships.

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    The only common sense response I can muster is that common sense is a rare commodity these days. The lack of clear analysis of the election outcome is due to the fact that it can't be explained.

    We, as a people, voted for liberalism, hedonism, and irresponsibility.

    I pray that we get them all in spades.

    Grant: You owe no apology for your state. We will all get exactly what we deserve.
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    I found this interesting:



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    Grant:

    Check out the Ohio county map. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elec...hio-state-race

    City slickers one the race. It is like this through most of the other swing states (most).

    IF the GOP puts up a minority, they are going to have to fight the stigma of doing it "because," or "hey, we love minorities too." The DNC ripped the GOP when they put Michael Steele, claiming that, "they put a black main as chairman because the President is black."

    The other two points of why we lost are:

    The media was the darling of Obama. This needs to get exposed and done so in a very harsh and critical manner. This was absurd, considering the power of information (or suppression of it) the mass media has. Benghazi was a mere blip on the screen in the American homes due to the media pointing the radar towards friendly territory.

    Second: The "dialog" set forth by the liberals and perpetuated by the media was "below" the most of the GOP, but apparently had its affect. This condescending crap is pure childish behavior, yet it set the tone of the election. Obama and Biden are perfect examples. Which begs the question, is America become meaner, less tolerant, and out and out dicks to each other now? Has the city attitude seeped into our country's behavior, persona, and dialog. I had a fellow classmate give me the same incredible condescending tone (she is from Chicago and can really go back anytime now) when I produced a spent 8mm Mauser brass casing for Turkish marks on it (Modern Middle East course and we awere talking about the Ottoman's), and she goes off and says:

    "You know, if the police catch you with that, they may not be happy about it."

    I told her it is a spent casing and I would love to see them try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Business_Casual View Post
    It has to be undone, the way it was done.

    Take over the schools - teach children conservative values

    Take over the press - tell people the conservative message daily

    Take over the entertainment industry - indoctrinate the masses with liberty nightly

    Otherwise, the takers will outnumber the makers forever.

    Now I know how the Romans in Britain felt as the last Legion embarked on their ships.

    G23c
    Well said and my thoughts exactly.

    This is a not just about an election, which is foam on the tides of history. It's a cultural war that has been going on for generations, at least since the early 1900's and actually before that. It took a long time to get here. The progressives played it patiently and correctly by understanding that it's not mainly about elections, it's about the culture. They have infiltrated and now dominate every part of the culture: education, media, entertainment, judiciary. While conservatives and libertarians are off doing our own thing, shooting guns, running businesses, and ranting about how the government should leave us alone, the progressives have dominated the minds of the young, and everyone who consumes tv, movies, music, and news.

    Trying to "spin" your guy just to win an election (conservative as moderate, moderate as conservative, libertarian as both, etc.), might occasionally work. But if you don't have the ability to implement real ideas and get the country behind you once you're in, you will only experience political gridlock and accomplish little of lasting value as the past several election cycles have demonstrated.

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    One of my jobs is working EMS in a large city in SC equally divided by whites and minorities. I've been listening to minorities all morning about how "they" won. I asked several what they meant and they said things like: "you know, us... black folks." Not a single one understood any of my follow up questions, claimed no party affiliation, and thus confirmed my thought that voting is largely skin deep for most of them. Put Allen West on the ticket- I'll bet they vote for him.
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    The right failed to provide a viable candidate/team and allowed a couple of goofs and splinter factions (aided by the media) to poison some of their potential supporters. That's the crux of it really.. Everything else is incidental or ancillary at best. That's about all there is to this story.. They need to do a lot better.. JMO.. Ron
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    Freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith and faith requires freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauser KAR98K View Post
    Grant:

    Check out the Ohio county map. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elec...hio-state-race
    My county (Tuscarawas) "Held the line." For that I am happy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lethal dose View Post
    One of my jobs is working EMS in a large city in SC equally divided by whites and minorities. I've been listening to minorities all morning about how "they" won. I asked several what they meant and they said things like: "you know, us... black folks." Not a single one understood any of my follow up questions, claimed no party affiliation, and thus confirmed my thought that voting is largely skin deep for most of them. Put Allen West on the ticket- I'll bet they vote for him.
    Allen West lost.
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    We just barely won in my county.

    My question is, where do we go from here? Will the country make it to 2016? Are we Rome 2.0?

    I'm at a loss for words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidjinks View Post
    Freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith and faith requires freedom.

    I believe Polybius wrote that.

    Until we, as a nation and as individuals, have all of those we will never succeed.
    We're f@%&ed then.
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    I am lost for words In total shock .I can't understand with the path this country is taking How could they Put him Back in Office? My State of course Has held red since 1976 .we had a good lead for a while Nationally . But the sheep fell in line .Any one Notice the Map Looks just Like the Map in 1862


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    Quote Originally Posted by warpigM-4 View Post
    I am lost for words In total shock .I can't understand with the path this country is taking How could they Put him Back in Office? My State of course Has held red since 1976 .we had a good lead for a while Nationally . But the sheep fell in line .Any one Notice the Map Looks just Like the Map in 1862
    Yep, just reversed and with a few more states involved.

    Anyone have the full U.S. map showing the counties (not individual states and the counties). I am very curious what the Red and Blue make up is this year. Most of the time it has been "purple" but going through FNC's county by county through state maps, I think there are going to be city islands of blue in a sea of red.
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    That was my point brother.


    Quote Originally Posted by M4arc View Post
    We're f@%&ed then.

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    Indiana is a giant red thumb sticking up into a sea of blue union and government dependent states. We hold the line. We are almost completely surrounded. Only Kentucky to our South has our back. I'm just happy Indiana went the right direction. Sure it would have been great for Murdock to beat Donnelly but he shot him self in the head with his Gods will comment. At least Mike Pence won as our Governor. He will continue the fine job that Mitch Daniels started.

    IF shit were to ever hit the fan, in the form of armed conflict between the states..... I live 6 miles from the Ohio line, but luckily, we have Grissom AFB and one of the few remaining Fighter Wing Air Guard bases in the midwest. Our boys with the 122nd Fighter Wing and their big beautiful A10's will give us some cover as we move to liberate Ohio and Michigan.
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