CCW chowderhead gets charged

[Brimstone]

We have had carry on campus for some time now with no issues in Utah. We have no training or proficiency testing for a CCW permit in Utah either. It is a 3-4 hour class that is based more around where you can/can't carry and when you are justified in drawing/firing your weapon.

As for the Colorado case, you can't fix stupid.

[AKDoug]

If I were to re-write the 2nd based on todays society, the right would be based upon one's knowledge and proficiency with the chosen weapon type. upon passing the test (based on significant range time and class time) the right would be unlimited. the way I see it now, that would be a reasonable way back to an educated and skilled gun owning society.

That said, the 2nd aint written like that.

Still, some folks just dont need guns.

We need a rewrite of the 1st Amendment to require proper capitalization on internet posts. The 2nd Amendment does not grant anyone a privileged. It reaffirms an inalienable right. An inalienable right cannot be removed by any government, nor does it require an education to possess.

[Iraqgunz]

I'll side with AK_Doug. Inalienable rights are just that. They aren't given to us. They are endowed.

If I were to re-write the 2nd based on todays society, the right would be based upon one's knowledge and proficiency with the chosen weapon type. upon passing the test (based on significant range time and class time) the right would be unlimited. the way I see it now, that would be a reasonable way back to an educated and skilled gun owning society.

That said, the 2nd aint written like that.

Still, some folks just dont need guns.

[LostinKY]

..... The 2nd Amendment does not grant anyone a privileged. It reaffirms an inalienable right. An inalienable right cannot be removed by any government, nor does it require an education to possess.

So then would we approve of the mentally unsound, people convicted of violent crimes, and similar individuals to have firearms?

At what age are we to be able to exercise this right?
21, 18, 16, 10 yrs old...

I believe in the 2nd but I am not sure where these people fit?

[Jack-O]

I'll side with AK_Doug. Inalienable rights are just that. They aren't given to us. They are endowed.

If this were true you would never comply with any gun law. Further still your endower would erase any "liens" automatically right?

[Hehuhates]

If this were true you would never comply with any gun law. Further still your endower would erase any "liens" automatically right?

Actually there would be no gun laws to comply with.

[SPQR476]

In a true free society, stupid would hurt more. With the state not "protecting us from ourselves", personal and family responsibility would have to provide controls, and where those were void, the gene pool would thin itself of the shallow, stagnant end dwellers. But then, who would vote democrat?

[HelmandHunter]

In a true free society, stupid would hurt more. With the state not "protecting us from ourselves", personal and family responsibility would have to provide controls, and where those were void, the gene pool would thin itself of the shallow, stagnant end dwellers. But then, who would vote democrat?

^ This

[Texas42]

I moved from TX to PA. TX has very high ccw quals (class, test, long wait) PA has none of that. I've seen just as much stupid ccw stuff in TX as PA.

Hazards of living in a free society are that some people are free to be foolish. Freedom is worth it though.

Texas has a 10 hour class, including a rediculously easy shooting test (if you have difficulty. . . you really do need some help shooting.) It is also more expensive than most states. . . . . but what are you gonna do?

[HelmandHunter]

Get a FL permit and tell TX to pound sand!