Snap shots and rifle weight

**cookie monster** · 11-26-12, 06:10

Both lose

**Failure2Stop** · 11-26-12, 06:13

Originally Posted by QuickStrike

Then they're probably both gonna get shot IMO.

This is true.
The only time such tight numbers are relevant is with CNS hits.

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**JoeSixPack** · 11-26-12, 06:26

Originally Posted by QuickStrike

Then they're probably both gonna get shot IMO.

The difference in snap shot time from weapon weight doesn't seem that much.

Edit: I guess it would come down to who is luckier.

I do know that in the old west, Gunfighters quickly figured out that the gunfighters with long barreled revolvers seemed to die a lot faster than gunfighters with shorter barrels and as a result the 4-3/4barrel became the barrel length of choice.

Someone needs to do a study on this. Get a slow motion camera to detect the first movement of the rifle barrel to eliminate the reaction time factor and see how long it takes to get the rifle up and fire. I'll bet there's a significant difference in how long it takes to get the rifle up with an extra 1-1/3 lb of weight on the barrel.

Just enough to make me want to keep my 7" rail on my M4 carbine

**Failure2Stop** · 11-26-12, 06:38

Originally Posted by JoeSixPack

I do know that in the old west, Gunfighters quickly figured out that the gunfighters with long barreled revolvers seemed to die a lot faster than gunfighters with shorter barrels and as a result the 4-3/4barrel became the barrel length of choice.

Someone needs to do a study on this. Get a slow motion camera to detect the first movement of the rifle barrel to eliminate the reaction time factor and see how long it takes to get the rifle up and fire. I'll bet there's a significant difference in how long it takes to get the rifle up with an extra 1-1/3 lb of weight on the barrel.

Just enough to make me want to keep my 7" rail on my M4 carbine

It's not about weight, it's about getting that longer barrel out of the holster and rotating forward.

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**ryr8828** · 11-26-12, 07:08

Originally Posted by JoeSixPack

I do know that in the old west, Gunfighters quickly figured out that the gunfighters with long barreled revolvers seemed to die a lot faster than gunfighters with shorter barrels and as a result the 4-3/4barrel became the barrel length of choice.

Someone needs to do a study on this. Get a slow motion camera to detect the first movement of the rifle barrel to eliminate the reaction time factor and see how long it takes to get the rifle up and fire. I'll bet there's a significant difference in how long it takes to get the rifle up with an extra 1-1/3 lb of weight on the barrel.

Just enough to make me want to keep my 7" rail on my M4 carbine

From all I have read Wyatt Earp carried a revolver with a 7 1/2" barrel.

**3 AE** · 11-26-12, 08:40

Originally Posted by JoeSixPack

I do know that in the old west, Gunfighters quickly figured out that the gunfighters with long barreled revolvers seemed to die a lot faster than gunfighters with shorter barrels and as a result the 4-3/4barrel became the barrel length of choice.

Someone needs to do a study on this. Get a slow motion camera to detect the first movement of the rifle barrel to eliminate the reaction time factor and see how long it takes to get the rifle up and fire. I'll bet there's a significant difference in how long it takes to get the rifle up with an extra 1-1/3 lb of weight on the barrel.

Just enough to make me want to keep my 7" rail on my M4 carbine

You're obsessing about rails again, aren't you Joe?

**GunnutAF** · 11-26-12, 11:22

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Well I guess the millions of GI's in WWII were real wimps walking all over Europe and the Pacific with those heavy M1's ! Funny I think they got the job at hand done quite well carring all that heavy gear!

As been said it's the guy who has the fight mentality in your senerio who is going to win.

In your senerio the shot is most like going to be from the hip and who hits the other guy first wins. Doesn't matter what weapon they are carring.

**maddawg5777** · 11-26-12, 19:22

Id say it would come down to luck of the draw if everything else is equal. Its the Indian not the arrow kinda thing. Although the dude rocking the M1 gets + 100000 "MERICA points tho.