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    Scar 17 p mags, sand down to fit. ?

    Hey guys, I have a friend with a Scar 17, can he sand down the 20 rd 308 pmag to work?
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    Bad idea. You can find 17 mags thru FN's estore around $40.
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    The Handl Defense lower allows for their use: http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=sho...roduct_id=3217
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    It is a cheap Airsoft quality Eotech half ass knockoff- I just had a student with one in a basic class about a month ago and it laid down faster than a cheap hooker

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammage View Post
    The Handl Defense lower allows for their use: http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=sho...roduct_id=3217
    Bolt catch will damage your bolt face with this thing, design flaw that needs to be worked out before I would ever consider investing in one.

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    You would need to modify the lower for pmags. Or buy one of the 2-3 that they're selling to fit pmags.

    A few guys have modified fal mags, I'm going to try that one of these days since I have some a round and no gun to use them in anymore.

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    Apparently it can be done. There's a 2-part video detailing the process. I suppose if you have the tools it's worth a try, but will you stake your life that they'll work 100%? I guess for the range they'd be alright.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98JZBwSH-aU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqNMsnG6R78

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    Check out Rainer Arms. They carrey a mod lower that is not a regestered part like the upper. It will allow you to use PMags. A lot better than grinding down a good mag.

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    I pick up my SCAR 17 tomorrow and grabbed 6 new mags from the FNH Store last week for 40 bucks each and they threw in a free T-Shirt.

    Don't take this wrong but I think only a Idiot would take a 2700-3000 dollar rifle and try "rigging" mags that are NOT made for it because you're too cheap to buy the correct Magazines.


    Oh...and nice Video.... Man with a Roto Tool...look out!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzoid View Post
    I pick up my SCAR 17 tomorrow and grabbed 6 new mags from the FNH Store last week for 40 bucks each and they threw in a free T-Shirt.

    Don't take this wrong but I think only a Idiot would take a 2700-3000 dollar rifle and try "rigging" mags that are NOT made for it because you're too cheap to buy the correct Magazines.


    Oh...and nice Video.... Man with a Roto Tool...look out!!
    I might not have used the word "idiot", but I'm in complete agreement with this.
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    I wasn't taking a personal shot at anyone in this thread...

    Just my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistolero View Post
    Bolt catch will damage your bolt face with this thing, design flaw that needs to be worked out before I would ever consider investing in one.
    Really? How is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    Really? How is that?
    Just people parroting incorrect information, again. If it gets repeated enough, it becomes fact. Same with the pmag causing issues in the 16. And yet no one can show a single confirmed example.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoutfsu99 View Post
    Just people parroting incorrect information, again. If it gets repeated enough, it becomes fact. Same with the pmag causing issues in the 16. And yet no one can show a single confirmed example.....

    I would hope this isn't a case where people are talking without actual knowledge or from having seen/ used/ handled one. I'm also aware of the "shill factor" which tends to be present in the online weapon forums.

    That being said, if there is an actual issue that was some how missed by everyone else, I would like to know what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoutfsu99 View Post
    Just people parroting incorrect information, again. If it gets repeated enough, it becomes fact. Same with the pmag causing issues in the 16. And yet no one can show a single confirmed example.....
    The SCAR 16 issue with PMAGs is true - Magpul has addressed it publicly, and modified the PMAG 30 M3 geometry to eliminate this issue. I'm not sure if the same issue exists with the PMAG 20LR being used with aftermarket SCAR 17S lowers.
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    That's not what I'm saying. The pmag, in addition to others, do cause the BHO to slightly raise. That's been proven.

    Magpul also publicly said that they have yet to see a reported or confirmed case, military and civilian, of a pmag causing damage to a SCAR bolt.

    It was all conjecture and worry fanned by the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoutfsu99 View Post
    Just people parroting incorrect information, again. If it gets repeated enough, it becomes fact. Same with the pmag causing issues in the 16. And yet no one can show a single confirmed example.....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDmM0eN8jhc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzoid View Post
    I pick up my SCAR 17 tomorrow and grabbed 6 new mags from the FNH Store last week for 40 bucks each and they threw in a free T-Shirt.

    Don't take this wrong but I think only a Idiot would take a 2700-3000 dollar rifle and try "rigging" mags that are NOT made for it because you're too cheap to buy the correct Magazines.


    Oh...and nice Video.... Man with a Roto Tool...look out!!
    Well said Tzoid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForTehNguyen View Post
    Where is the damage? All he did was show a video illustration that corresponds to all the pictures floating around.

    I'll be glad to change my tune if anyone can show confirmed damage. Again, for all the .mil and civilian SCARs out there, no one has proven this to be a legitimate problem. Supposition turned into fact because it kept getting repeated.

    I particularly enjoyed his Windham video

    ETA: Not making those silly faces at you FTN but rather the video. All he did was a make a video of something another guy already pointed out. Its just guesses but somehow turned into fact.
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    The sand down guy, Wagnasty, is known as Dr. Dremel and he was the first guy I knew to make a PMag lower for the 17. Airborne. Those guys have no respect...

    The Handl alloy lower is testing out pretty good. There are reports of some bolt catch and mag catch issues, but they seem remote. The FDE Handl in not anodized, but coated. Alan Handl seems like a good guy.

    There is another alloy lower due next year from Jim Elmazi, former DSA guy who engineered the SA58 lower. It has a few more features than the Handl like an AR grip geometry, QD mounts and will be anodized.

    PMags are not recommended for use in the 16. This is fully vetted. If you need proof, go shooting with your SCAR. They are terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferris2son View Post
    The Handl alloy lower is testing out pretty good.
    I thought these were supposed to be released in Sept/Oct. Is it still in testing?

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