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    hollow points

    what is the difference in match match hollow points and those for hunting? Like sierra match king and and the game king. And is there a difference in expansion?

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    Big difference. Match bullets are engineered and built for accuracy with no thought or consideration given to terminal performance. They may expand, maybe not, maybe explode. Hunting hollow points are generally for varmints and if so, are designed to explode on impact.
    Such bullets are not generally suitable for medium or large game. I suppose there are a few hollow points intended for medium and or large game, 458 hollow point bullets come to mind.
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    SMKs that we've shot don't expand at the open tip. They yaw and frag with sufficient velocity.
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    Wow this sounds like an ammo topic. And we even have an ammo section. Imagine that.



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    Bullet design effects how the bullet reacts when it hits its target.

    Match bullets are designed to be. . . accurate. They do this by being as symetric as possible. Since the jacket is a different materail than the soft lead core, most manufacturers put as thin of a jacket on as possible. This tends to make the bullet pretty soft. They will come appart pretty quickly.

    Hunting bullets are designed to be as sturdier, depending on the prey. Varmit bullets are usually match bullets. Short, explosive expansion with limited pentration. Medium game bullets have thicker jackets and hold together more. You won't have the explosive expansion, but you'll penetrate more consistently and usually penetrate some bone no problem.

    Big game bullet are made of sturdy, usually bonded bullets or all copper that are made to expand some, but hold together much more to maximize penetration.

    Then you have solids, which people really don't use much in the lower 48. Designed for emergency shot, large slug of copper or lead that won't expand, but maximizes penetration.

    The HP vs. soft point is really a moot discussion. It may have meant something years ago, but now bullet construction matters more than whether it is a soft point or a HP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newguy View Post
    what is the difference in match match hollow points and those for hunting?
    What everybody else said...

    IIRC, the only reason that match bullets are "hollow points" is the way they're manufactured. The jacket is pulled over the lead core from the rear, and then not quite closed at the front. I can't remember why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bimmer View Post
    ......The jacket is pulled over the lead core from the rear, and then not quite closed at the front.......
    Well not exactly pulled over the core, more like repeatedly drawn with punches and dies then the core inserted then closed and pointed with another punch and die or two or three. When you make a jacket you can draw it from the nose or draw it from the base. You wind up with either an open tip or an open base. It is easier to draw a base than a point so that is the method of choice unless a closed point is required as in military bullets. That's why match bullets are hollow points. Another thing not commonly known is that the final sizing operation the bullet is bumped up to diameter not sized down. Reason is when sizing down the copper jacket springs back more than the lead core leaving a slight space. When bumping up to diameter the opposite happens, the jacket springs back against the core making a nice tight fit.

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