End The Baby Boomer Reign Of Terror...

[The_War_Wagon]

Why I invented this piece of agitprop about 4 years ago...

[cinco]

"Ahh" the hippies, were just cultural vectors, a source of introducing social tensions with the implicit intention of tearing down traditional American social fabric.

The people on the above list all have a common link, all were/are associated with the Frankfurt School, through a series of political, social, and educational associations. Particularly, they are associated with the marxist "Herbert Marcuse" who used these people, and others like them, to infest American academia with marxist doctrine.....

http://www.marxists.org/subject/frankfurt-school/

Marcuse taught at Columbia at the same time as did Cloward & Piven, they knew each other well, here is a link to some of Francis Pivens "papers." Its lengthy and hard to read. I include it because it lists more then a few of Pivens political contacts, professional colleagues, and students. If you are able to grind it out, its an eye-opener to be sure....
http://asteria.fivecolleges.edu/find...html#list-ser1

Agree. Moose provided this link in another thread. Talk about an eye-opener to the "Cloward-Piven Strategy"...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._strategy.html



The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:


The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.


Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:


"Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules," Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system's failure to "live up" to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist "rule book" with a socialist one.

[cinco]

[Belmont31R]

The problem they have introduced to us, through that strategy, is the government now has so many 'responsibilities' we can't afford to pay for them all, and we are now borrowing over a trillion in new debt every year.


Even if you completely cut DOD spending out we would still be running a deficit. Even if you cut DOD and discretionary spending out we will still be running a deficit. These social welfare programs, when added up together, dwarf everything else. The two biggest programs, Social Security and Medicare, are there for the disabled and retired. If those two programs did not exist, and we still took in the same amount of revenue, we would be running a large budget surplus, and we would have virtually no public debt.


This is one thing no one ever mentions when we think of welfare...everyone thinks of it as food stamps and the single mom with 10 kids. Those programs, aimed at that demographic, pale in comparison to what elderly people are getting. I guess the Greatest Generation, who are children of the Great Depression, never thought to save up for retirement, and voted themselves in a guaranteed standard of living into retirement. This program was never designed to be a 'pension fund' where you didn't have to save for retirement, and Medicare was not designed to be the sole medical benefit a person would have once they got old enough and quit the workforce.


Our budget woes are NEVER going to be fixed until those two programs are curtailed enormously. I did a bit of research a while back, and looked at what percent of the budget they took up, say when Reagan was president, and they were significantly less than they are today. The population growth is too small to meet the demand, and while wages are going down those people are getting COLA increases.

[Sensei]

The problem they have introduced to us, through that strategy, is the government now has so many 'responsibilities' we can't afford to pay for them all, and we are now borrowing over a trillion in new debt every year.

This is the exact strategy of Cloward & Piven. They envisioned the rise of a progressive utopia out of the ashes of capitalism after our current economic system collapses.

Even if you completely cut DOD spending out we would still be running a deficit. Even if you cut DOD and discretionary spending out we will still be running a deficit. These social welfare programs, when added up together, dwarf everything else. The two biggest programs, Social Security and Medicare, are there for the disabled and retired. If those two programs did not exist, and we still took in the same amount of revenue, we would be running a large budget surplus, and we would have virtually no public debt.


This is one thing no one ever mentions when we think of welfare...everyone thinks of it as food stamps and the single mom with 10 kids. Those programs, aimed at that demographic, pale in comparison to what elderly people are getting. I guess the Greatest Generation, who are children of the Great Depression, never thought to save up for retirement, and voted themselves in a guaranteed standard of living into retirement. This program was never designed to be a 'pension fund' where you didn't have to save for retirement, and Medicare was not designed to be the sole medical benefit a person would have once they got old enough and quit the workforce.


Our budget woes are NEVER going to be fixed until those two programs are curtailed enormously. I did a bit of research a while back, and looked at what percent of the budget they took up, say when Reagan was president, and they were significantly less than they are today. The population growth is too small to meet the demand, and while wages are going down those people are getting COLA increases.

Steyr is correct in that the seeds of our current budget crisis were sowed out of the progressive movement of the 60's and 70's. FDR's Second New Deal was bad, but it was at least funded when it was created. For example, Social Security was initially a true government insurance program that most people would not collect. Nobody envisioned it being used as a de facto retirement program until the 60's and 70's when people started to live longer. As is the natural history of these programs, it grew beyond its original boundaries and the Boomer Generation has the most responsibility for that growth as more and more programs got lumped into Social Security under their tenure.

Then came LBJ with the Great Society. Now that the Boomer's are coming of age, and Medicare has become the single greatest economic threat to the US with over $50 TRILLION in future obligations to mostly Boomer's. In addition, the average Boomers will contribute far less than half of their future benefits over the course of their working careers due to the rising cost of healthcare. This makes Medicare a massive ponzi scheme unless we match Medicare payroll taxes to projected benefits (which I fully support if we are going to have government funded healthcare for the elderly).

[ashooter]

You guys all NEED to read this book:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Fourth-Tur...fourth+turning

There is a lot more truth to this thread than y'all realize, and The Fourth Turning puts it all into crystal clear perspective. In a nutshell, the boomers came of age during an "awakening". Now that they're older, they are a bunch of pious, self-righteous shit-heads that think they "awoke", became enlightened, and have to tell the rest of us dumb-asses what to do.

...it's more complex than that, but that is about what it boils down to.

[carbinero]

Great thread, efficiently drawing together the main elements of our country's recent atrophy. Something I read recently (or watched in the movie, "America: Freedom to Fascism?") showed how much more free and literate the average Westerner was, in the immediately previous century or two. I have no doubt this is largely due to the growth of socialist tyranny exported from Europe.

I also read a very interesting 1989 book in this vein called "Destructive Generation." Here is a summary: http://www.fortfreedom.org/l32.htm

And a quotation from the book, referenced in the review:

"As the Eighties recede, we find ourselves caught in the riptide of
Sixties revival. There are films, histories, and memoirs of what has
been made to seem a sort of golden age.... This revival can be
recognized as a sentimental moment.... But the nostalgia is also a
political phenomenon. The growing interest in the Sixties coincides
with a renaissance of the radicalism that was the decade's dominant
trait and is now being used to jump-start the Next Left."
Destructive Generation, p. 217

[OldState]

This thread is great. I have often joked that I was going to write a book on the Baby Boomers and all the evils they have brought.
Most of my teachers were BBs and I remember the outwardly anti American theme of my history and social study classes. It wasn't until I read up on things myself that I realized just how much propaganda I was exposed to.


I find it ironic how the greatest generation gave birth to hands down the worst in US history.

Add making perpetual personal debt culturally acceptable to the list of things the BBs gave us.

[Moose-Knuckle]

Agree. Moose provided this link in another thread. Talk about an eye-opener to the "Cloward-Piven Strategy"...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._strategy.html

Every American needs to read that and have their friends and family read it too.


For those that have never seen it (short cartoon):

Make Mine Freedom

[Sensei]

I suppose the real problem is that you cannot win a national election or hold a majority in Congress without "appealing" to a majority of the Boomers. By appealing I mean supporting their government run retirement (Social Security) and healthcare (Medicare).